Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:8538] Re: Natural

2015-05-02 Thread Frederik Stjernfelt
Dear Howard, lists - I certainly do not think Howard's considerations in this sub-thread are irrelevant to the book. When I have not interfered it is because in this matter I largely agree with Howard (until now, that is!). At 09:21 AM 5/1/2015, Gary Fuhrman wrote: I've got my own book to

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:8565] Re: Natural Propositions,

2015-05-02 Thread Frederik Stjernfelt
Dear Franklin, lists - OK, we're getting closer to agreeing about what to disagree about, at least! Frederik: Hm, I am not sure. How could we know this? This is a bit of a catch-22 because one of the classic riddles of abduction is exactly how to select the better hypothesis among many

[PEIRCE-L] Semiotic theory limited by the Fermi paradox

2015-05-02 Thread Stephen Jarosek
List, I wonder if it is possible to have semiotics interpreted universally as opposed to globally. What might the implications be if we went universal? What new interpretations might this require of us? Most of us have heard of the Fermi paradox. That is to say, if there are so many stars

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:8549] Re: Natural Propositions,

2015-05-02 Thread Franklin Ransom
Dear Frederik, lists, Frederik: Something like that. P seldom used the word empiricist. Sometimes he refers to the British empiricists, sometimes to James' radical empiricism which he equated with pragmatism. I do not remember seeing him using it about himself. Of course the later version of

[PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8567] Re: Natural

2015-05-02 Thread Gary Fuhrman
Frederik, you wrote, [So here I agree with Howard (and I guess P would do so as well) that the right direction is to generalize the observer-phenomenon distinction so as to cover all biological organisms.] I agree about the right direction, but I don’t see that Howard does, because he

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Archive

2015-05-02 Thread Gary Richmond
Harry, Welcome to the forum! You can find a page linking to information about the Peirce forum including the Archives at the top left of the Arisbe home page. http://www.iupui.edu/~arisbe/ Here it is directly (scroll down a bit): http://www.iupui.edu/~arisbe/PEIRCE-L/PEIRCE-L.HTM Best, Gary

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:8551] Re: Natural

2015-05-02 Thread Howard Pattee
At 11:32 AM 5/1/2015, Benjamin Udell wrote: Howard, I don't see why a rock's hitting the ground on a lifeless planet shouldn't be taken as occasioning a measurement. HP: If one thinks this way, then every physical event is a measurement. That won't work for an empiricist. BU: That's the sense

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:8566] Re: Natural Propositions,

2015-05-02 Thread Franklin Ransom
Frederik, lists, It is classically described as such in the literature. The formal structure af abduction (the proposition A explains the occurrence B as a matter of necessity, therefore A can be chosen as a hypothesis to explain B) does not explain why A should be chosen over infinitely many