Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] F.E. Abbot

2018-03-04 Thread Helmut Raulien
John, Stephen, I often am too quick with judgements. Now I agree with John, that Abbot probably was too harsh against religions, and was alienating people. Instead of just rejecting dogmas and myths, I guess it always is better to refute dogmas by redefining myths from dogmas towards parables, an

Re: [PEIRCE-L] F.E. Abbot

2018-03-03 Thread Stephen C. Rose
Sounds like we are pretty much agreed, John. I have posited that we have about a century to get things right and that would include leeching science of nominalism and I would add binary proclivities. Peirce and Abbot were staunch realists who are one in moving metaphysics into a configuration that

Re: [PEIRCE-L] F.E. Abbot

2018-03-03 Thread John F Sowa
Stephen and Helmut, SCR I completely disagree that we live in a time of breakdown. I did not say 'breakdown'. I said 'fragmentation'. SCR The civilization the two men aimed at philosophically is an integration of the best of inherited metaphysics with science, arriving at a post-religious s

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] F.E. Abbot

2018-03-02 Thread Helmut Raulien
John, List, I think, in each religion there always was a contest, often eruping into fight, between the spiritual and the prophetist fractions. Both have different gods: The god of the spirituals is, like in John´s gospel, understandable for us: Logos. The god of the prophetists/ fundamentalists

Re: [PEIRCE-L] F.E. Abbot

2018-03-02 Thread Stephen C. Rose
Hi John. First I added this to my trove on Abbot on Medium. https://medium.com/everything-comes/f-e-abbots-libel-case-against-josiah-royce-7e8dd3012457 The complete text of Abbott's defense against Josiah Royce for what appears to have been a rather complete misunderstanding of him on Royce's part.

Re: [PEIRCE-L] F.E. Abbot

2018-03-02 Thread John F Sowa
On 3/2/2018 8:25 AM, Stephen C. Rose wrote:> Entirely delightful with a salutary flourish at the end. The most salutary suicide I have ever encountered. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Ellingwood_Abbot That provides some good background about F. E. Abbot, and it's significant that Peirce