Jon,

The self born in "error and ignorance" gives Peirce's psychological view of
the origin of *self-consciousness*, and tying this to his remarks regarding
the hot stove seems to offer some possibilities.  What's interesting to me,
though, is the comparison of Peirce's view to Hegel's derivation of
*self-consciousness* via the master/slave dialectic in the *Phenomenology
of Spirit*.  Hegel is more mythologically dramatic, but I don't think
they're that far apart.

Tom



On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 4:40 AM, Jon Awbrey <jawb...@att.net> wrote:

> Peircers,
>
> Facebook has an app that reminds me of things I posted on
> the same day in years past, and this one came up for today:
>
> Ouch???
> https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2012/02/22/ouch%e2%9d%a2/
>
> <QUOTE>
>
> A child hears it said that the stove is hot. But it is not, he says; and,
> indeed, that central body is not touching it, and only what that touches is
> hot or cold. But he touches it, and finds the testimony confirmed in a
> striking way. Thus, he becomes aware of ignorance, and it is necessary to
> suppose a self in which this ignorance can inhere. ???
>
> In short, error appears, and it can be explained only by supposing a self
> which is fallible.
>
> Ignorance and error are all that distinguish our private selves from the
> absolute ego of pure apperception.
>
> ??? Charles S. Peirce ??? ???Questions Concerning Certain Faculties
> Claimed For Man???
> ??? http://www.iupui.edu/~arisbe/menu/library/bycsp/question/qu-frame.htm
>
> </QUOTE>
>
> I don't know if this is the same ???stove incident??? as the one being
> discussed earlier on the List, as I was away for the start of that,
> but it strikes me that this story has a rather different moral than
> simply reviving a Morrisean transmogrification of Peircean semiotics.
> Namely, it has to do with the path to discovering a particular object,
> to wit, the self.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon
>
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