[peirce-l] Re: The roots of speech-act theory in the New List

2006-09-12 Thread jwillgoose
Ben, (I responded to your later message first.) I agree with a lot here.The idea that there are objective possibilities that are true, regardless of our knowledge, has beenarguably the central issue in discussions of philosophical realism for 2500 years. The idea of objective indeterminacy is a

[peirce-l] Re: reduction of the manifold to unity

2006-09-12 Thread Joseph Ransdell
Just now getting arond to addressing your question of several days ago, Jim: you formulate it towards the end of your message as follows: JP: I don't see how a sign can represent without there being an observor role which is functionally distinct fromthe role of mere participant. So anyway that's

[peirce-l] Re: The roots of speech-act theory in the New List

2006-09-12 Thread Benjamin Udell
Jim, [Jim Willgoose] Peirce says, "Very many writers assert that everything is logically possible which involves no contradiction. Let us call that sort of logical possibility, essential, or formal, logical possibility. It is not the only logical possibility; for in this sense, two

[peirce-l] Re: The roots of speech-act theory in the New List

2006-09-12 Thread jwillgoose
Thanks Ben, Well,I guess the passage doesn't discuss modal propositions if you disallow rephrasing "this stove is possibly black" with 'It is possible that "this stove is black."'There is certainly a logic of possibility at work.Why aren' t these modal propositions?It is just that the

[peirce-l] Re: The roots of speech-act theory in the New List

2006-09-12 Thread Benjamin Udell
Jim, [Jim Willgoose] (I responded to your later message first.) I agree with a lot here.The idea that there are objective possibilities that are true, regardless of our knowledge, has beenarguably the central issue in discussions of philosophical realism for 2500 years. The idea of

[peirce-l] Re: The roots of speech-act theory in the New List

2006-09-12 Thread Benjamin Udell
Jim, [Jim Willgoose] Well, I guess the passage doesn't discuss modal propositions if you disallow rephrasing "this stove is possibly black" with 'It is possible that "this stove is black."' There is certainly a logic of possibility at work.Why aren' t these modal propositions?It is just