[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-06-05 Thread Benjamin Udell
Cassiano wrote, It's been a long while I don't write, but the subject interests me.I run the risk of repeating everything that was said here about entelechy, but a look up at the form of the word seems appropriate: entelechy in ancient greek is a form of saying (as literally as I can see)

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-06-05 Thread Gary Richmond
Victoria Cassiano, I agree that Cassiano's is a sane, sound, and even evolutionary way of looking at entelechy. Peirce too saw that Kant and Bergson were on the right metaphysical track, process and vitalism, not mechanism and predetermination. The resultant 'emergent principle' is thus the

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-06-04 Thread Cassiano Terra Rodrigues
Hello list: It's been a long while I don't write, but the subject interests me. I run the risk of repeating everything that was said here about entelechy, but a look up at the form of the word seems appropriate: entelechy in ancient greek is a form of saying (as literally as I can see) en telos

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-11 Thread Jim Piat
Dear Folks-- I came across this definition of Entelechy among the words Peirce is reputed to have defined for the Century Dictionay in 1886 (page 404 of Writings of Charles S Peirce A Chronological Edition Volume 5 1884-1886) -- I was looking for a definition of form. BEGIN QUOTE

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-11 Thread Bill Bailey
Joe, Thank you for the below post--which I've cut away all but it's identification. I don't find entelechy of particular interest, but I'm in awe of Peirce's conception of communication and mediation. It's ready to bottle and label. Bill Bailey For the benefit of those who don't have a copy

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-09 Thread Janet Singer
Title: [peirce-l] Re: Entelechy Gary -- I see now that Merrell is mentioned in the Life of Meaning resources on your site. Nice collection! I am surprised, however, to see the entrants under Models and simulations of mind. Aren't the views of Hofstadter, Dennet and Minsky generally at odds

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-09 Thread gnusystems
Vinicius, [[ I think the best definition of Entelechy given by Peirce, done in terms of Semeiosis, can be found in his definition of Perfect Sign (EP2: 545, n.25). ]] I see what you mean -- although Peirce doesn't mention the word entelechy there, perfect sign seems synonymous with it.

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-09 Thread Eugene Halton
Kirsti M: “…The entelechy or perfection of being Peirce here refers to is something never attained to full, but strived at, again and again. Just as with science and scientific knowledge. It's about striving to approach, better and better, The Truth. If there ever would be an end, the absolute

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-09 Thread Gary Richmond
Gary, Your concluding comment: We are worlds in conversation, turning still. Sometimes we spin in synchrony and sometimes we don't. When we do, we have structural coupling, as Maturana and Varela called it. And when we don't, we may have a chance to learn something new. for some reason

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-09 Thread Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Eugene Halton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 9, 2006 7:45 AM To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu Subject: [peirce-l] Re: Entelechy Kirsti M: ��The entelechy or perfection of being Peirce here refers to is something never attained to full, but strived at, again

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-08 Thread gnusystems
Janet, [[ Is entelechy the same as final cause to Aristotle or are they just related concepts? ]] My understanding is that the entelechy is an entity, while the final cause is not. If we could map a process onto a sentence, the entelechy would correspond to a noun while the final cause would

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-08 Thread Vin�cius
List, I think the best definition of Entelechy given by Peirce, done in terms of Semeiosis, can be found in his definition of "Perfect Sign" (EP2: 545, n.25). Best, ViniciusKirsti M¨¨tt¨nen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, Wilfred et al.Gary wrote: I'm still trying to get a firmer grip on the

[peirce-l] RE: Entelechy

2006-05-08 Thread Kirsti Määttänen
Neal, I didn't succeed in opening your attachment. Could you possibly copy it and send it as a mail? Kirsti 7.5.2006 kello 23:09, Neal Bruss kirjoitti: . . . and notice how the first two clauses of the passage link entelechy with the Peirce's freuqent turn to grammar in his logic, and,

[peirce-l] RE: Entelechy

2006-05-08 Thread gnusystems
Kirsti, it's good that you couldn't open the attachment -- according to my software it contained a virus (the worm Mydoom.O). Neal doesn't mention it in the message itself, so i'd bet he didn't even know it was attached when he sent it. Neal, better check your system -- gary -

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-07 Thread Jim Piat
Dear Folks-- I looked up escatology (which I though is at least a remotely related notion) and entelechy in the Oxford Companion to Philosophy. I found the entry below for Entelechy. I think it adds a fun slant that is consistent with the picture you folks are painting. I especially like

[peirce-l] RE: Entelechy

2006-05-07 Thread Neal Bruss
. . . ]. -Original Message- From: Kirsti Määttänen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 5/7/2006 12:59 PM To: Peirce Discussion Forum Cc: Subject:[peirce-l] RE: Entelechy Neal, A good quote you brought up. The entelechy or perfection of being Peirce here refers

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-06 Thread gnusystems
Wilfred, I have a smattering of classical Greek, maybe enough to provide you with a little information. Aristotle apparently coined the term, and didn't define it, so one has to figure out its meaning from context. (There is no listing for it in Liddell and Scott's Intermediate Greek-English

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-06 Thread Joseph Ransdell
] To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 7:07 AM Subject: [peirce-l] Re: Entelechy Wilfred, I have a smattering of classical Greek, maybe enough to provide you with a little information. Aristotle apparently coined the term, and didn't define it, so one has

[peirce-l] RE: Entelechy

2006-05-06 Thread Neal Bruss
Dear Wilfred: Do you have 6.341, noted as from Some Amazing Mazes, Fourth Curiosity, (c. 1909)? 341 The mode of being of the composition of thought, which is always of the nature of the attribution of a predicate to a subject, is the living intelligence which is the creator of all