GE/Sraffa: My response to Gil

1994-02-28 Thread Ajit Sinha
To remind the reader, Gil Skillman earlier characterized the "Sraffian system of commodity prices of production" as "just a GE system with a lot of stuff left out..." In my earlier posting, I showed surprise at Gil's characterization and reminded him that the three basic aspects of the GE model, n

GE/Sraffa: My response to Gil

1994-02-28 Thread Ajit Sinha
To remind the reader, Gil Skillman earlier characterized the "Sraffian system of commodity prices of production" as "just a GE system with a lot of stuff left out..." In my earlier posting, I showed surprise at Gil's characterization and reminded him that the three basic aspects of the GE model, n

M-M'

1994-02-28 Thread David Brennan
This is in response to Jim's questions concerning my earlier posting. He asks two questions concerning interest payments and SV. Specifically, he questions why consumer interest payments and Ponzi deal interest payments are not components of SV. Let me specify what I mean by consumers here. I am

M-M'

1994-02-28 Thread David Brennan
This is in response to Jim's questions concerning my earlier posting. He asks two questions concerning interest payments and SV. Specifically, he questions why consumer interest payments and Ponzi deal interest payments are not components of SV. Let me specify what I mean by consumers here. I am

defining capitalist exploitation

1994-02-28 Thread Michael Lebowitz
In Message Mon, 28 Feb 94 12:43:13 PST, Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >GS(GIL): This leads me to a question: Jim, how do you define [capitalist] >exploitation -- not its necessary conditions, its definition -- and >how do you think Marx defines it? > >JD: capitalist exploitation is on

defining capitalist exploitation

1994-02-28 Thread Michael Lebowitz
In Message Mon, 28 Feb 94 12:43:13 PST, Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >GS(GIL): This leads me to a question: Jim, how do you define [capitalist] >exploitation -- not its necessary conditions, its definition -- and >how do you think Marx defines it? > >JD: capitalist exploitation is on

Re: The New World Order/Running Shoes of Capitalism

1994-02-28 Thread Barnet Wagman
Ah, but there is only one Michael Jordan, and presumably his contract with Nike is exclusive. Economics has always underestimated the importance of advertising and marketing in defining preferences and stimulating demand. One of the great 'triumphs' of American business over the last deca

Re: The New World Order/Running Shoes of Capitalism

1994-02-28 Thread Barnet Wagman
Ah, but there is only one Michael Jordan, and presumably his contract with Nike is exclusive. Economics has always underestimated the importance of advertising and marketing in defining preferences and stimulating demand. One of the great 'triumphs' of American business over the last deca

RE: Origins of the State

1994-02-28 Thread Tavis Barr
In Message Fri, 25 Feb 94 00:28:41 CST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Question: can PEN-Lers tell us if Pitelis has it straight on Marxist >explanations of the origins of the capitalist state? We are poised to resume >our discussions on Tuesday with the valuable input of PEN-Lers! > Oops

RE: Origins of the State

1994-02-28 Thread Tavis Barr
In Message Fri, 25 Feb 94 00:28:41 CST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Question: can PEN-Lers tell us if Pitelis has it straight on Marxist >explanations of the origins of the capitalist state? We are poised to resume >our discussions on Tuesday with the valuable input of PEN-Lers! > Oops

Re: ZAPATISTA PAMPHLET (fwd)

1994-02-28 Thread Tavis Barr
On Mon, 28 Feb 1994, D Shniad wrote: > TITLE: Zapatistas: Spreading Hope for Grassroots Change, Starting in > Chiapas, Mexico. Open Magazine Pamphlet Series, pp.22, ISBN: > 1-884519-06-7, $4.00 ppd. > > AUTHOR: Text by Marc Cooper, Hannah Holm, Barbara Pillsbury & > The Zapatistas Allright,

Re: ZAPATISTA PAMPHLET (fwd)

1994-02-28 Thread Tavis Barr
On Mon, 28 Feb 1994, D Shniad wrote: > TITLE: Zapatistas: Spreading Hope for Grassroots Change, Starting in > Chiapas, Mexico. Open Magazine Pamphlet Series, pp.22, ISBN: > 1-884519-06-7, $4.00 ppd. > > AUTHOR: Text by Marc Cooper, Hannah Holm, Barbara Pillsbury & > The Zapatistas Allright,

Re: more on M - M' (was Marx on interest

1994-02-28 Thread Jim Devine
On Sat, 26 Feb 1994 11:17:06 +1000 Steve Keen said: (concerning the quote from Marx about M-M') >Re whether the analysis fits within the structure of volume >I of capital. I would argue that it can, as I detailed beforehand, >but that there's no way Marx (or I) argued that it is a source of >surpl

Re: more on M - M' (was Marx on interest

1994-02-28 Thread Jim Devine
On Sat, 26 Feb 1994 11:17:06 +1000 Steve Keen said: (concerning the quote from Marx about M-M') >Re whether the analysis fits within the structure of volume >I of capital. I would argue that it can, as I detailed beforehand, >but that there's no way Marx (or I) argued that it is a source of >surpl

Re: more on M - M' (was Marx on interest

1994-02-28 Thread Jim Devine
Below, quotes preceded by ">" are from me (from a comment on a missive by Steve Keen). Those preceded by "GS" are from Gil Skillman. Those preceded by "VK" are by Victor Kaspar. I added my further comments, marked by "JD." (I've edited for readability and left out some of Victor's comments.) > ..

Re: more on M - M' (was Marx on interest

1994-02-28 Thread Jim Devine
Below, quotes preceded by ">" are from me (from a comment on a missive by Steve Keen). Those preceded by "GS" are from Gil Skillman. Those preceded by "VK" are by Victor Kaspar. I added my further comments, marked by "JD." (I've edited for readability and left out some of Victor's comments.) > ..

Re: EK Hunt and Gen. Eq.

1994-02-28 Thread GSKILLMAN
On the usefulness of GE models, Jim Devine comments: > Farbeit for me to defend Sraffian models of the edon (yuk) economy, > since they are very utopian. But at least they don't assume full > employment (and a total absense of quantity constraints) they the > way Walrasian models do. > > But

Jobs open???

1994-02-28 Thread John Harvey
Feb. 28, 1994 John T. Harvey Associate Professor of Economics Texas Christian U. Does anyone know of a position still available where a heterodox economist would be welcome? One of our former students has gone through two years of job markets and is still looking. His specialities are Urb

Jobs open???

1994-02-28 Thread John Harvey
Feb. 28, 1994 John T. Harvey Associate Professor of Economics Texas Christian U. Does anyone know of a position still available where a heterodox economist would be welcome? One of our former students has gone through two years of job markets and is still looking. His specialities are Urb

ua-strike (fwd)

1994-02-28 Thread D Shniad
Forwarded message: >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 25 18:27:51 1994 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 94 21:26 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Task Force on Central America BC) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ua-strike URGENT ACTIONGUATEMALAURGENT ACTION GUATEMALA

ua-strike (fwd)

1994-02-28 Thread D Shniad
Forwarded message: >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 25 18:27:51 1994 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 94 21:26 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Task Force on Central America BC) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ua-strike URGENT ACTIONGUATEMALAURGENT ACTION GUATEMALA

ZAPATISTA PAMPHLET (fwd)

1994-02-28 Thread D Shniad
Forwarded message: >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 25 13:23:50 1994 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 13:23:42 -0800 From: Hannah Holm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ZAPATISTA PAMPHLET ZAPATISTA PAMPHLET News Release February 25, 1994

ZAPATISTA PAMPHLET (fwd)

1994-02-28 Thread D Shniad
Forwarded message: >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 25 13:23:50 1994 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 13:23:42 -0800 From: Hannah Holm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ZAPATISTA PAMPHLET ZAPATISTA PAMPHLET News Release February 25, 1994

Re: Karl on Krisis

1994-02-28 Thread Doug Henwood
I'd certainly agree with the characterization of capitalism Jim O'Connor offers here, but it seems a misuse of the word to call something normal a crisis. I'd prefer to confine the use of the term to a situation when the very reproduction of the system is threatened - when its mechanisms of overco

Re: Karl on Krisis

1994-02-28 Thread Doug Henwood
I'd certainly agree with the characterization of capitalism Jim O'Connor offers here, but it seems a misuse of the word to call something normal a crisis. I'd prefer to confine the use of the term to a situation when the very reproduction of the system is threatened - when its mechanisms of overco

Re: Academic TQM

1994-02-28 Thread Jim Devine
Thanks for all the comments on academic TQM. Sid Schniad sent me a good paper on the subject by the Labor Notes folks (thanks, Sid!!!). After reading it, I forwarded it to my dean, who seemed pretty skeptical about TQM when she mentioned it. And who knows with nuns? She might respond well to an

Re: Academic TQM

1994-02-28 Thread Jim Devine
Thanks for all the comments on academic TQM. Sid Schniad sent me a good paper on the subject by the Labor Notes folks (thanks, Sid!!!). After reading it, I forwarded it to my dean, who seemed pretty skeptical about TQM when she mentioned it. And who knows with nuns? She might respond well to an

Re: progressive usury

1994-02-28 Thread Jim Devine
On Sun, 27 Feb 1994 13:36:27 -0500 (EST) Doug Henwood said: >Yes I'd be interested in seeing cites on this. I'd prefer a formulation >more like bloodsucking leeches, or in Marx's own phrase, fabulous >parasites, rather than a progressive force. > >Does that mean that KM agrees with Michael Jensen

Re: progressive usury

1994-02-28 Thread Jim Devine
On Sun, 27 Feb 1994 13:36:27 -0500 (EST) Doug Henwood said: >Yes I'd be interested in seeing cites on this. I'd prefer a formulation >more like bloodsucking leeches, or in Marx's own phrase, fabulous >parasites, rather than a progressive force. > >Does that mean that KM agrees with Michael Jensen

Progressive Usury Citation

1994-02-28 Thread Michael Perelman
Marx, c3 International Publishers 596: "Usury ... exerts ... an undermining and destructive influence on ancient and feudal wealth and ancient and feudal property [I]t undermines and ruins small-peasant and small-burgher production." 597: Usury has a revolutionary effect in all pre-capital

Progressive Usury Citation

1994-02-28 Thread Michael Perelman
Marx, c3 International Publishers 596: "Usury ... exerts ... an undermining and destructive influence on ancient and feudal wealth and ancient and feudal property [I]t undermines and ruins small-peasant and small-burgher production." 597: Usury has a revolutionary effect in all pre-capital

Re: The New World Order/Running Shoes of Capitalism

1994-02-28 Thread Jim Devine
Maybe one reason that's allowing the increase in capitalist mark-ups is the coincident waves of down-sizing, bankruptcies, and mergers, which restrict supply. That's probably not enough, though. in pen-l solidarity, Jim Devine BITNET: jndf@lmuacadINTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Econ. Dept., Lo

Re: The New World Order/Running Shoes of Capitalism

1994-02-28 Thread Jim Devine
Maybe one reason that's allowing the increase in capitalist mark-ups is the coincident waves of down-sizing, bankruptcies, and mergers, which restrict supply. That's probably not enough, though. in pen-l solidarity, Jim Devine BITNET: jndf@lmuacadINTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Econ. Dept., Lo

Re: Karl on Krisis

1994-02-28 Thread Jim Devine
Going beyond quibbles about the exact meaning of the word "crisis," I like Doug's treatment of the 1950s and 1960s as an unusual period. I think that if we treated that period as the EXCEPTION rather than as the RULE, it would lead to clearer thinking. Among other things, old Karlos' ability to p

Re: Karl on Krisis

1994-02-28 Thread Jim Devine
Going beyond quibbles about the exact meaning of the word "crisis," I like Doug's treatment of the 1950s and 1960s as an unusual period. I think that if we treated that period as the EXCEPTION rather than as the RULE, it would lead to clearer thinking. Among other things, old Karlos' ability to p

Academic TQM

1994-02-28 Thread pkraft
A while ago someone asked about TQM and universities. The attached posting from another discussion list may be of interest, particularly with respect to 1) work restructuring; 2) the role of unions; and 3) privatization. The description also makes clear how necessary it is to separate the "soft"

Academic TQM

1994-02-28 Thread pkraft
A while ago someone asked about TQM and universities. The attached posting from another discussion list may be of interest, particularly with respect to 1) work restructuring; 2) the role of unions; and 3) privatization. The description also makes clear how necessary it is to separate the "soft"