Re: Nafta, trade and market segmentation

1994-11-28 Thread Tavis Barr
Paul -- Let me get something straight: I don't support NAFTA. To me the agreement is not about free trade; it is about liberalization, curtailing of internal regulatory power, and reactionary agrarian reform (of course, that's what "free trade" is coming to mean these days, but I stick with

Re: EU referendum in Norway - RESULT!!!!

1994-11-28 Thread Bill Humphries
>Norway's NO to the EU is not only good for Norway, it will also send a >very neccessary shock into the Eurpean debate, and be a stimulus to all >those inside EU who are opposed to this bureaucratic and market >liberalist abomination. Our NO gives hope to those who oppose the so-called >"inevitabl

Re: EU referendum in Norway - RESULT!!!!

1994-11-28 Thread Marianne Bruen
Congratulations, Trond! I look from Germany with an envious eye toward Norway. It was a delight to find your message now, after coming home late. I go to bed with the feeling: "it is possible". Marianne Brun

EU referendum in Norway - RESULT!!!!

1994-11-28 Thread Trond Andresen
It is 02:00, night in Trondheim, Norway. In spite a slight buzz from several beers, I am still able to proudly announce that Norway has said NO to membership in the European Union with 52.6% of the votes!!! Some votes remain to be counted, but they are so few that they can't fundamentally change

Re: principal/agent and social conscience

1994-11-28 Thread Doug Henwood
Robin Hahnel's mention of LBBS reminds me that the URPE steering committee has belatedly accepted Michael Albert's invitation to become a co-sponsor of the system. We need an URPE volunteer to be our presence on the board. Anyone in the PEN-L virtual community want to be the lucky agent. I am

Re: The Great Debate Continues

1994-11-28 Thread Fred Guy
I seem to have come in at the middle (or perhaps at the tail end) of an extended debate. All I wanted to say was that when Trond Andresen says that California's pollution control innovations are a good example of why policy should be made in small political units rather than big ones (such as

Re: Leftovers

1994-11-28 Thread pkraft
Doug Henwood asks who it was who celebrated the ability of economics departments to resist the rot of deconstructionism, John Maynard Keynes, etc. I don't have the text (in a manner of speaking) in front of me, but the quote sounds a lot like the report John Silber gave to the Boston Universi

Re: principal/agent and social conscience

1994-11-28 Thread Robin Hahnel
I am glad to hear that Gil Skillman thinks that the static efficiency properties of markets are the "least important" features that recommend them. In other words, Gil is conceding that markets generate reasonably accurate estimates of social benefits and costs of different goods and services -- o

Re: Leftovers

1994-11-28 Thread Doug Henwood
Who wrote these vile but sadly accurate words? Not Herb Gintis, I'm assuming. Doug Doug Henwood [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Left Business Observer 212-874-4020 (voice) 212-874-3137 (fax) On Mon, 28 Nov 1994, Brian Eggleston wrote: > I just encountered this in the most recent Chronicle of Higher Ed. a

one more time

1994-11-28 Thread Brian Eggleston
Maybe it's just not meant to be. The full text of the "turkey" message was not sent. I am starting to believe that I may have a system problem. Here's one LAST (I promise) attempt. "The creeping rot of multiculturalism, feminism, deconstructionism, and other fashionably radical intellectual tr

turkey

1994-11-28 Thread Brian Eggleston
Sorry folks. My keyboard froze up before I could sign the "turkey" message. *---*--* | Brian Eggleston, Ph.D.| | | Associate Professor and Chair | "It is by invisible hands that we

Leftovers

1994-11-28 Thread Brian Eggleston
I just encountered this in the most recent Chronicle of Higher Ed. and couldn't resist passing it along. So, if you didn't get enough turkey over the holiday.. "The creeping rot of multiculturalism, feminism, deconstructionism, and other fashionably radical intellectual trends has spread to

EU referendum in Norway - 21:43 Norw. time - HOORAY!!!?

1994-11-28 Thread Trond Andresen
Just a short excursion to my office workstation from what is now a budding victory party for the NO side: Two election day polls have been presented, giving a mean of 51.4% (one 50.2% and one 52.6%). Those polls are from today, 7590 respondents, and therefore quite accurate. It seems that a NO vic

The Great Debate Continues

1994-11-28 Thread D Shniad
Trond Andresen says: "I challenge list participants to give specific examples of how supranational blocs are better at saving the environment, as opposed to smaller national units being free to make own decisions and play a pioneer role or come together under the UN umbrella and make voluntari

EU referendum in Norway - 19:30 Norw. time

1994-11-28 Thread Trond Andresen
Just a short note, 90 minutes before the first results are announced: Extreme weather in the Northwest and north of norway, with rain, sleet snow and up to full storm on the coast. On the radio: Interview with 81-year old walking 3 km each way in full storm to vote. On the other hand, calm and cle

BIOREGIONALISM (fwd)

1994-11-28 Thread Doug Henwood
By coincidence, from another list, here's an example of bioregionalist thinking. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 10:07:50 -0500 (EST) From: PNEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BIOREGIONALISM [PNEWS CONFERENCES] From: Inst. for Bioreg.

Re: National sovereignity and environment

1994-11-28 Thread Fred Guy
Trond Andresen writes that California's pioneering work on clean air standards is an example of the benefits of national sovereignty. Am I mistaken then in believing that the technical emissions standards adopted by California for automobiles and other air pollution sources, are in response t

Re: NAFTA and Trade Surplus

1994-11-28 Thread Doug Henwood
Many greens are opposed to trade, and look to the bioregion as the appropriate scale for organizing social life. They're subnationalists in that. Doug Doug Henwood [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Left Business Observer 212-874-4020 (voice) 212-874-3137 (fax) On Sun, 27 Nov 1994, Ajit Sinha wrote: > I d

Re: NAFTA's "sucking sound"

1994-11-28 Thread Gary W. Nickerson
It's not so clear that there was job loss from NAFTA based on the figures presented in the article. To begin with, there was growth in both exports and imports--so an increase in the net trade balance is not the only story. The growth in exports would normally be expected to produce additional jo

National sovereignity and environment (was: NAFTA and Trade Surplus)

1994-11-28 Thread Trond Andresen
> I don't understand why environmetanlists would be nationalists...Most of the > environmental problems are global in nature and poses the most serious > challenge to the nationalist politics. > - says ajit sinha. Here we go again. This discussion reminds me of the great debate one+ year ago on

EU referendum in Norway - today it is!!

1994-11-28 Thread Trond Andresen
Voting has been going on since yesterday, results will be ready possibly by midnight, possibly as late as tomorrow due to close race between the two sides. Today's opinion polls are 49, 50, and 52 % for the NO side, i.e. the YES side seem to have gained some 2% since Friday. My earlier predictio