[PEN-L:1890] PC

1995-12-12 Thread Trond Andresen
If it is true that the PC term originated in the U.S. left as a self-ironic thing, I stand corrected. Seeen from Norway however, to the (until now) weak degree the term has been employed here, it has been as a demagogic instrument to turn the tables on issues which have been won by the left, and

[PEN-L:1891] Re: Decentralism and straw men

1995-12-12 Thread Trond Andresen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says I cannot agree more strongly with John Gulick's and Doug Henwood's characterization of the US left/liberal obsession with "decentralization. ... Significant elements within the organic agriculture "movement" have long forwarded a neo-populist vision of the future

[PEN-L:1892] Re: PC

1995-12-12 Thread Peter Bohmer
On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Trond Andresen wrote: If it is true that the PC term originated in the U.S. left as a self-ironic thing, I stand corrected. Seeen from Norway however, to the (until now) weak degree the term has been employed here, it has been as a demagogic instrument to turn the

[PEN-L:1894] Re: French movement situation

1995-12-12 Thread A. S. Fatemi
On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, D Shniad wrote: Personally, Bill, I can't stand the tension any longer -- are you in favour of or opposed to the strike in France? Sid Shniad Is Sid serious? I can't believe that one would ask such a question. There are many issues involved in the current French

[PEN-L:1895] Michael Dingman

1995-12-12 Thread Hugo Radice
Dear pen-lers, A Wall Street operator called Michael Dingman is currently buying up control over a large chunk of Czech industry - 7 of the biggest companies so far. He claims he's going to 'restructure' etc., but many suspect he's planning a form of greenmail and looking to cream off

[PEN-L:1893] Re: French m...

1995-12-12 Thread MScoleman
I must say, I find Bill Mitchell's post about the strikes in France both confusing and arrogant. Confusing because he is putting the rips offs of the medical system by doctors and pharmaceutical companies on exactly the same level as workers demanding protection of benefits. So, is he saying

[PEN-L:1897] Re: French m...

1995-12-12 Thread bill mitchell
maggie wrote (her first message after talking to Louis! = tone!): I must say, I find Bill Mitchell's post about the strikes in France both confusing and arrogant. Confusing because he is putting the rips offs of the medical system by doctors and pharmaceutical companies on exactly the same

[PEN-L:1896] Re: French movement situation

1995-12-12 Thread James Devine
bill's comments (and his quoting of Bob Rowthorn) reminds me of a useful analogy by Rosa Luxemburg on unionism: she argued that unionism's task is like the labors of Sisyphus. Every time a victory is achieved (and the rock gets up to the top of the hill), the institutional power of capital

[PEN-L:1898] Globalisation and nationalism

1995-12-12 Thread D Shniad
Home with the flu over the weekend, I was browsing through some material on the bookshelf when I came across the 1994 issue of the _Socialist Register_. The title of this issue was "Between Globalism and Nationalism." I remembered having read and been impressed by a copy of Leo Panitch's

[PEN-L:1899] A progressive European Union?

1995-12-12 Thread D Shniad
On a separate but related topic, here on Pen (and elsewhere) folks have expressed the hope that a more humane model of economic integration can be put in place in the European Union. (Most recently, this hope was expressed here by Hugo Radice.) In the same article mentioned in my earlier

[PEN-L:1900] Norway and Canada

1995-12-12 Thread D Shniad
I cannot comprehend the position taken by Penners who have contempt and disdain for the "progressive nationalist" position (the term was Tom Weiskopf's if I'm not mistaken) that economic integration on terms dictated by capital is something that can and should be resisted. Doug Henwood's earlier

[PEN-L:1902] Re: French movement situation

1995-12-12 Thread D Shniad
Dear A.S., For myself and countless contacts that I have on the left and in the labour movement, the struggle in France -- for all its imperfections and inability to address the fundamental contradictions of capitalism -- is very exciting and worthy of support. It does not follow that

[PEN-L:1901] Capitalism Nature Socialism

1995-12-12 Thread Louis N Proyect
Louis: The new issue of this journal (12/95) arrived in my mailbox last night. Here is some of what you will find inside: 1. "Marxism and Ecology" by Joel Kovel: Marxism as it is now commonly constituted appears as a stranger in ecological circles. This is not as it should be, but it is a

[PEN-L:1903] Re: French movement situation

1995-12-12 Thread glevy
Sid wrote: PS -- There's an old union song entitled "Which Side Are You On?" "they say in Harlan County there are no neutrals there. You'll either be a union man or a thug for J.H. Blair." "My daddy was a miner and I'm a miner's son and I'll stick with the union till every battle's won."

[PEN-L:1904] Re: French movement situation

1995-12-12 Thread GC-ETCHISON, MICHAEL
glevy 12/12, overcome by nostalgia, cites "Which Side Are You On?" for the proposition that it would be wicked indeed to challenge the motives, good faith, need, or relevance of whoever happens to claim to be on the side of The Union. Well, such a "principle" does have the

[PEN-L:1905] France's Bloated Health Care System

1995-12-12 Thread HANLY
While the percentage of GDP spent on health care by France is larger than that of most European countries it is less than Canada and far less than the US. The US has inferior life expectancy than either country. If Canada is any example the cure for the bloat seems to be rough surgery with no

[PEN-L:1907] Response to Bill Mitchell

1995-12-12 Thread D Shniad
Bill, I wholeheartedly agree with the statement that "workers must go beyond purely economic struggle and must fight at the political level to exert control over production itself." (Ironically, Canadian and American workers who engaged in the political struggle against NAFTA were condemned

[PEN-L:1908] Re: French movement situation

1995-12-12 Thread Marianne Bruen
I think one point that is being over-looked is that what most of the striking groups have been holding out for is "a round table": they want to be consulted, to come to some agreement. The strike is so successful, I think, because there is a general

[PEN-L:1909] Inequality in the States

1995-12-12 Thread D Shniad
U.S. RICH-POOR GAP IS WIDEST The United States has the widest gap between rich and poor of any of the world's largest industrial countries, according to a report by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. The report was more comprehensive than earlier studies that had

[PEN-L:1911] chase manatthan bank (fwd)

1995-12-12 Thread Jim Jaszewski
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[PEN-L:1910] A history of PC

1995-12-12 Thread Martin Hart-Landsberg
This is a little late but ... Several people mentioned the rightwing use of political correctness as a tactic to discredit the left and were interested in the history of this phenomenon. The best discussion of this I have seen is in a book called Generation at the Crossroads by Paul Rogat Loeb,

[PEN-L:1912] Re: Wainwright versus Wood

1995-12-12 Thread Jim Jaszewski
On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Louis N Proyect wrote: Ellen Meiksins Wood's latest book is "Democracy Vs Capitalism", Verso. It is a defense of a Marxist understanding of democracy. Terms such as "dictatorship of the proletariat" are explored. I haven't read it yet, but heard her in a seminar

[PEN-L:1913] Re: A history of PC

1995-12-12 Thread Jim Jaszewski
On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Martin Hart-Landsberg wrote: Several people mentioned the rightwing use of political correctness as a tactic to discredit the left and were interested in the history of this phenomenon. The best discussion of this I have seen is in a book called Generation at the

[PEN-L:1915] Re: miscellaneous comments

1995-12-12 Thread Jim Jaszewski
On Mon, 11 Dec 1995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to Louis Proyect: It is certainly true that you have driven off most of the academics, so I have been told offnet, much to the disgust of the list co-moderators, I might add. That may very well be true, but I must say that it's my opinion

[PEN-L:1914] Re: A history of PC

1995-12-12 Thread Dan Epstein
These are some comments from Noam Chomsky on PC (from _Year 501_, South End Press, 1993). The [extent of the ] hysteria about "political correctness" ... is truly something to behold, including a stream of best-sellers with anecdotes, many concocted, about alleged horrors in the universities,