I don't know what's in Marty's reference but it is remarkable how
short the cultural memory is here on the left (pen-l anyway).
Political correctness was not a Maoist term, politically incorrect
was a Maoist phrase (I'm probably giving away my political history
here). It was used to
Bill M. asked:
I recall that it was Harlan or Paris - one struggle one fight, Jerry . whatever
did that mean other than an allusion to a dichotomy - union person or scab?
The allusion to "Which Side Are You On" was in in support of two (what I
viewed as uncontroversial) propositions:
(1) In
BINARY CHOICES
Micheal challenged:
glevy 12/12, overcome by nostalgia, cites "Which Side Are You On?" for
the proposition that it would be wicked indeed to challenge the motives,
good faith, need, or relevance of whoever happens to claim to be on the
side of The Union.
Jerry
I suspect Hugo's support for the EU stems from the same basis that it
does in the rest of the Anglophone world (US and unfortunately
Ireland). Even a watered down EU social charter is better than what we
could do in our own countries. Thus Europe may be a more fruitful
terrain of class
Much like comparing Jim D.'s sense of humour with Howard Stern's,
Jim's characterization of SSA theory may be largely accurate but
still unfair. There is ample evidence of ideological and theoretical drift
on the part of many of the SSA framework's original proponents.
(Sam Bowles is a
I sent Nello a reference to the Chase materials accessible through the
Chiapas95 homepage.
Harry
On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Jim Jaszewski wrote:
I'm forwarding this to the erudite crew in PEN-L. Perhaps y'all
can help:
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95
Louis:
Random notes on PC:
1. At the Brecht Forum in NY last monday, I heard Joseph Buttregieg, a
blue-chip Gramsci scholar, speak on "Popular Culture in the US: A
Gramscian Perspective". He commented that it is interesting that Allen
Bloom's "Closing of the American Mind" became a
Harry C.'s post on this thread was _very_ interesting and well worth
discussing on PEN-L.
Some preliminary notes/assertions:
(1) This story is really a very old story often told and too frequently
repeated. Until faculty and other "professionals" at colleges stop
thinking of themselves as
At 7:53 AM 12/13/95, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(2) The condescending and elitist way in which some faculty view TAs,
part-time faculty, support staff, etc. is connected to the above and
presents one of the major obstacles to union solidarity and collective
action.
This problem extends into the
I'm saddened to see Bill Mitchell taking the line he has on France. This
conflict isn't about the specifics of Juppe's proposals, which are quite
mild by US standard. As Daniel Singer told me, everyone recognizes that
these are the "thin edge of the wedge," the overture to a long process of
Is anyone, anywhere undertaking the serious work of attacking
"intellectual property rights" --besides the pro-indigenous groups who
are trying to keep them from getting ripped off?
Harry
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 10:42:16 -0500 (EST)
From: JB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Copyright Holders Patrol
Friends:
Check this out!
Harry
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 09:15:26 -0600 (CST)
From: Harry M. Cleaver hmcleave@mundo
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Grade Strike
Eve:
Please put me on your mailing list for any and all information about this
strike. You
Lord, forgive us our montages. As we forgive those who montage upon us. I
couldn't help but reframe Louis and Jim's "us prols against the perfessers"
thread in the context of the high falutin' casuistry of "identity politics.
So I've sampled some of Jim Jaszewski's remarks and follow them with
Terry McD writes: Political correctness was not a Maoist term,
politically incorrect was a Maoist phrase ... It was used to
describe propositions which were thought to be wrong for one
reason or another. [The] use [of the phrase "politically
incorrect"] was meant to emphasize on the one hand
Louis:
"The acute sense of insecurity uncovererd by the Union of Aerospace
Workers' survey is therefore abundantly justified. The jobs of Boeing
employees are indeed especially precarious, and if the employees are
tossed out they are likely to find themselves unwanted by an
oversupplied
I was very interested in Terry McDonough's comments about Sam Bowles
being a "one-man crisis of Marxism," and the general drift to the Right
of a lot of left economists. I've found the discussion of the Regulationists
interesting, but Terry has highlighted a broader phenomenon. What
This is far too sophisticated for me. Tom has to bring it down a level or
two for me to appreciate.
Louis
On Wed, 13 Dec 1995, Tom Walker wrote:
Lord, forgive us our montages. As we forgive those who montage upon us. I
couldn't help but reframe Louis and Jim's "us prols against the
On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Trond Andresen wrote:
I have no admiration for hippies, or "organic famers " in the U.S. also
being exploitative bosses. So what, I ask...
Trond, as the first line of my message indicated, my comments were primarily
directed at the "US liberal/left," not Norweigans. My
Doug writes:
I'm saddened to see Bill Mitchell taking the line he has on France. This
conflict isn't about the specifics of Juppe's proposals, which are quite
mild by US standard. As Daniel Singer told me, everyone recognizes that
these are the "thin edge of the wedge," the overture to a long
I left the "Marxism" list. I work as an academic, but I'm a Marxist and
an activist. I resent the notion that one is not much of a Marxist or
an ivory-tower type if one leaves the list because of its "grittiness"
and "informality." I do not think that Dana Thorpe and MIM are just
examples
At 11:10 AM 12/12/95, D Shniad wrote:
In response to my comments about his original posting, Doug
then added insult to injury, saying "...I wonder what Norway
and Canada would be like if there were no MNCs and
imperialist monsters like the UK and US around, the
countries that created and
On Wed, 13 Dec 1995, James Devine wrote:
...
I've noticed that the "PC" terms tend to take on bad -- racist --
connotations if the objective conditions aren't changed (as with
the term "Black," which is why many supported the introduction of
"African American").
Why didn't the Black
On Wed, 13 Dec 1995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was very interested in Terry McDonough's comments about Sam Bowles
being a "one-man crisis of Marxism," and the general drift to the Right
of a lot of left economists. I've found the discussion of the Regulationists
interesting, but Terry
On Wed, 13 Dec 1995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It took Marx nearly 25 years to write _Capital_. It's a great expression
of his serious concern with ideas and his patience in *developing* thought
in a painstaking, methodical way. The Marxism list was not very
conducive to that. Marx was
Now, as far as "unserious" contributions are concerned. MIM's Maoism was
pretty anti-Marxist, but I have to say that he or she was basically
saying the same sort of thing that Bill Mitchell has been saying about
the French strike. It is a variant on SDS/Weathermen politics from the late
Since I won't be at the computer at all tomorrow, I'll count this
as my posting for tomorrow, so that I can stick with my weaning
from pen-l and non-essential e-mail in general. (Slippery slope
alert! slippery slope alert!)
Anyway, something's wrong with the hypertext archive at
I gotta butt in here with a comment.
Strange as it seems it may be in support of Bill Mitchell.
The unions in France may suffer from the same problems
as those in the United States:
1. Corruption 2. Over-reaching
The demise of the unions in the U.S., and they are indeed
demised, came
On Wed, 13 Dec 1995, bill mitchell wrote:
louis (author of the above) - please develop an argument rather than assertion
to tell me why the things i am saying about france are "pretty anti-Marxist"
and perhaps while you are at it, please develop a brief vision of what marxism
means in the
Dear friends,
A week or so ago, someone posted a recommendation that we read
the fall issue of the magazine "Covert Action." Does anyone have an
address and phone number? I'll be gateful to anyone who can send
these to me. Thanks.
in solidarity,
michael yates
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Dear friends,
I have been asked to write an article for Monthly Review on the state
of the U.S. labor movement. I'd be interested to know what others
think. What things will determine the extent to which the labor
movement will be renewed? Is there anything special I should read?
Are
I'm inclined to strike a somewhat optimistic tone.
michael yates
In matters of analysis, be neither optimistic nor pessimistic. Realism
should prevail.
Jerry
After much stenuous typing (the OCR wouldn't touch this stuff) I can only
wonder: why did I do it? Here is the alleged "proposed resolution" I
promised. As mentioned previously, the date on it is June 1969 and a
printer's bug on the back page indicates it was printed by the IWW printing
co-op
To Bill M,
Bill, one of the reasons I haven't been on the net for some
coupleof months is that I was chief negotiator for the U of M
faculty in our negotiations with the administration. We settled
a few weeks ago and I have been trying to catch up with my research
and teaching because we were
I would like to thank everyone who responded to my query about
programming a two-state proportional hazards model. I have decided to
try doing the programming myself in gauss.
Thanks again, and to everyone, a very happy holiday season!
Steven Zahniser
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