[PEN-L:2141] Strange Messages

1995-12-23 Thread bill mitchell
Whenever i send something to pen-l lately i get this back. do others? it is an automatic reply to the listserver. they are somewhat rude i think. Denise Stanley is on vacation until 12/15/96. but more curious - this is one hell of a vacation - is this american for 15 December 1996? sounds

[PEN-L:2142] academic unionism

1995-12-23 Thread glevy
bill mitchell wrote: lessons learned: don't join the academic union - it is traitorous, discriminatory, self-serving and distinctly non-radical. -- I would not give others the same advice. While I have no doubt that Bill's story is factually correct in all of its details:

[PEN-L:2143] Re: academic unionism

1995-12-23 Thread bill mitchell
Before we start a war about my little quip, let me confirm in spades that i agree with everything jerry says here: -- I would not give others the same advice. While I have no doubt that Bill's story is factually correct in all of its details: a) academic unions vary

[PEN-L:2144] Re: academic unionism

1995-12-23 Thread glevy
Bill mitchell wrote: if pen-l would like a report from me on how i am coping with being a HOD in a time of considerable structural change in OZ unis and in a faculty (dept) which is facing major budget cuts and a necessity to reduce our staff levels, sing out and i can tell you the whole

[PEN-L:2145] Re: Trade Unions (apres france) - fwded message

1995-12-23 Thread bill mitchell
I wasn't sure if i was mean't to assume that the sender was not on the list and wanted this forwarded or not. if my assumption is wrong then i am of-course sorry for sending private email to the list. but the ideas are worth reading. even if they are supportive of my, seemingly, isolated

[PEN-L:2146] unionism

1995-12-23 Thread PHILLPS
I feel a great deal of sadness at a lot of the recent diatribe against unionism on this list, particularly from my good and valued friend, Bill Mitchell. To do justice to the subject would take a very long post, but I thought maybe I could suggest a debate (shades of Marx and Engels in the