[PEN-L:5668] Re: Rethinking Overdetemination

1996-08-13 Thread Paul Zarembka
Shawgi, I reject the idea that we are engaging in a "purely academic discussion" when we discuss "economic determinism". In fact, I don't think we need to provide a detailed defense of why we are not engaging in "purely academic discussion". (If others wish to do so, I'll be reading--altho I'm

[PEN-L:5667] Re: welfare

1996-08-13 Thread Blair Sandler
Peter Burns wrote: > I've read in several places that the real value of AFDC > payments has declined by 46 percent since 1970, and that > even when food stamps are added, the combined real value > has gone down 26 percent. Since 1970 out-of-wedlock > births have increased by over 75 percent

[PEN-L:5666] re: Lexis

1996-08-13 Thread Max B. Sawicky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Max, if I get a mill, let's do lunch. maggie Hell yes. That would be some lunch to look forward to. With or without the mill. Max

[PEN-L:5665] re: Lexis

1996-08-13 Thread MScoleman
Max, if I get a mill, let's do lunch. maggie

[PEN-L:5664] Re: Rethinking Overdetemination

1996-08-13 Thread A_CALLARI
A warning: the discussion on "rights" CAN easily degenerate into an argument about efficiency. Locke used the caveat about the private appropriation of land having to leave enough for others only as a first step in an overall argument to justify the unlimited accumulation of wealth. He simply swit

[PEN-L:5663] Re: Rethinking Overdetemination

1996-08-13 Thread A_CALLARI
Eric writes: >More shocking is this: I believe most ASers are really closet >humanists but don't want to say this. I think most of the ASers >desire socialism because they think that socialist man/woman >will be more like the ideal person ASers desire to help create. > >Oddly enough, the previous

[PEN-L:5662] re: Lexis

1996-08-13 Thread Tavis Barr
On Tue, 13 Aug 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What upset me the most was that my ss#, which is supposed to be used for tax > purposes only, is being illegally used by an online network to which I have > never subscribed!!! I mentioned to the lexis person that tracking people by > ss# is ille

[PEN-L:5661] re: Lexis

1996-08-13 Thread Max B. Sawicky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > As suggested by an earlier post, I called Lexis at 1-800-543-6862. Indeed, I > gave the young woman who picked me up my ss# and she read me back my name, .. . . > never subscribed!!! I mentioned to the lexis person that tracking people by > ss# is illegal and she we

[PEN-L:5660] Re: Decommodification: international differences

1996-08-13 Thread rakesh bhandari
Eric asked whether there is >any other work seeking to measure the extent/growth of >decommodification in other countries? (Alternatively, is >there any other work that measures the size/growth of the >"social wage" in countries outside the United States?) Here are the contents of the Internatio

[PEN-L:5659] Re: Rethinking Overdetemination

1996-08-13 Thread Gil Skillman
This is sort of an aside, but something Steve just said overlaps with some issues I've been thinking about lately. Since the observation is brief I'll note the overlap for what it's worth. In response to Eric, Steve writes: [...] >Then the question arises, just as Eric seems to be asking, why

[PEN-L:5658] re: Lexis

1996-08-13 Thread MScoleman
Dear Femeconers and pen-lers; As suggested by an earlier post, I called Lexis at 1-800-543-6862. Indeed, I gave the young woman who picked me up my ss# and she read me back my name, phone number, current address, previous address, and birthdate. My 'previous address' was one I doubt even exists

[PEN-L:5657] Re: welfare

1996-08-13 Thread MScoleman
I still think that a significant portion of the rise in 'illegitimate' child birth is a fact of more accurate reporting. (leaving aside the idiocy of calling any child birth illegitimate. after all, does this mean the child was not born?) maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEN-L:5656] Fwd: Lexis data base with info that could be used for credit card fraud

1996-08-13 Thread MScoleman
I thought people might be interested in this. maggie - Forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefanie R. Schmidt) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 96-08-13 15:36:26 EDT I thought that femecon subscribers should be aware that Lexis is m

[PEN-L:5655] Re: Rethinking Overdetemination

1996-08-13 Thread Stephen Cullenberg
Yet, after yearsof thinking about such things, there doesn't appear to be an answer beyond: socialist class processes are an end in themselves for >aesthestic reasons (ASers can't say what the effect of these >"beautiful" class processes will be on the rest of society: the >effects could be "ba

[PEN-L:5654] Decommodification: international differences

1996-08-13 Thread Eric Nilsson
Esping-Andersen in two books argued for the importance for democratic socialist programs of the "decommodification" of workers. Decommodification means that workers are increasingly able to gain access to their standard of living independent of wage labor. Bowles and ** (Crisis of Liberal D

[PEN-L:5653] Re: welfare

1996-08-13 Thread Max B. Sawicky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > birth rates or illigetimacy. A crucial fact here is that > the real value of AFDC awards has been declining since the > mid-70s. This fact is conveniently overlooked by the Murray > crowd who are all blaming recent increases in illegitimate > births on high AFDC awa

[PEN-L:5652] Re: welfare

1996-08-13 Thread PBurns
I've read in several places that the real value of AFDC payments has declined by 46 percent since 1970, and that even when food stamps are added, the combined real value has gone down 26 percent. Since 1970 out-of-wedlock births have increased by over 75 percent. The obvious co

[PEN-L:5651] Re: Welfare Reform

1996-08-13 Thread Eban Goodstein
> > >Do folks have opinions on the best short piece-- magazine article-- which > >summarizes the likely impacts of the welfare dismantling legislation Bill > >signed? > > There are several good analyses of the legislation on the Urban Institute > web site (www.urban.org). While there, take a loo

[PEN-L:5650] welfare

1996-08-13 Thread ROSSERJB
In response to Eban's inquiry, I note that there was an excellent review article in the _Journal of Economic Literature_ several years ago by Robert Moffitt about incentives and the welfare system. My memory is that he found no relation in the literature between AFDC awards and birth rates

[PEN-L:5649] Re: Rethinking Overdetemination

1996-08-13 Thread Eric Nilsson
Antonio Callari writes, > . . . from within the overdeterminist perspective, there is no > more and no less of a difficulty with justifying one's option for a > socialism than there is from within the still traditional left perspective. I believe there is a GREAT problem for the reasons I explain

[PEN-L:5648] Re: Rethinking Overdetemination

1996-08-13 Thread Antonio Callari
Caution: long message Eric Nilsson raises many interesting issues, one of which is about the relation between overdetermination and the/a theory causation (Ajit also addresses this issue). The emphasis in the discussion on this particular question, however, itself biases the discussion against th

[PEN-L:5647] Re: Rethinking Overdetemination

1996-08-13 Thread SHAWGI TELL
On Tue, 13 Aug 1996, Antonio Callari wrote: > I can't resist: why is shawgi tell participating in this "purely academic" > discussion? [not that I see it as such; but just to take it on his terms]. > Antonio callari Actually, my question was: is this notion "economic determinism" part of yet

[PEN-L:5646] Re: Rethinking Overdetemination

1996-08-13 Thread Antonio Callari
I can't resist: why is shawgi tell participating in this "purely academic" discussion? [not that I see it as such; but just to take it on his terms]. Antonio callari >Thanks for the input Paul, but you left one question sort of unanswered: >is this notion of "economic determinism" part of yet anot

[PEN-L:5645] Re: Rethinking Overdetemination

1996-08-13 Thread SHAWGI TELL
On Tue, 13 Aug 1996, Ajit Sinha wrote: > Though Shawqi Tell's questions are to Paul Zarembka, I'm taking liberty to > respond simply because it has been put on the net. > > At 11:44 AM 8/12/96 -0700, you wrote: > > > >Paul, a few questions: is this notion of "economic determinism" something >

[PEN-L:5644] Re: Welfare Reform

1996-08-13 Thread Doug Henwood
At 12:26 PM 8/12/96, Eban Goodstein wrote: >Do folks have opinions on the best short piece-- magazine article-- which >summarizes the likely impacts of the welfare dismantling legislation Bill >signed? There are several good analyses of the legislation on the Urban Institute web site (www.urban.

[PEN-L:5643] State Terrorism In Indonesia II

1996-08-13 Thread SHAWGI TELL
The Indonesian military government is continuing its campaign of terror against the people. As reported in the first post, on July 27, an Indonesian armed force of over 2000 police backed by the military attacked the offices of the Indonesia Democratic Party (PDI) headed by Megawati Sukarnoputri

[PEN-L:5642] Israel: The Hijack State (XVI)

1996-08-13 Thread SHAWGI TELL
The new Prime Minister of Israel, Binyamin Netanyahu, has made it clear that attacks on the Palestinians and their national rights are not going to cease. He is refusing to fully lift the border restrictions to allow Palestinians to return to their jobs in Israel. To date the Israeli governm

[PEN-L:5641] Re: A taxonomy of scarcity

1996-08-13 Thread Gil Skillman
>Gil, could you explain your statement that > >>Marx *consistently* and *unambiguously* states that >>usury and merchant's capital prior to the era of the >>capitalist mode of production, *when extended directly >>to small producers*, created surplus value. > >Edwin Dickens > It's explained in de

[PEN-L:5640] Re: Rethinking Overdetemination

1996-08-13 Thread Ajit Sinha
Though Shawqi Tell's questions are to Paul Zarembka, I'm taking liberty to respond simply because it has been put on the net. At 11:44 AM 8/12/96 -0700, you wrote: > >Paul, a few questions: is this notion of "economic determinism" something >which is taken up by the working class, something whic

[PEN-L:5639] Richard M. Goodwin (fwd)

1996-08-13 Thread Ajit Sinha
>Subject: Richard M. Goodwin > >Dear friend, >I regret to report that Richard M. Goodwin passed away on August 6th >at 1:00 AM in the University Clinic in Siena. >As an economist, Dick will be remembered for his path breaking >contributions to the theory of economic fluctuations a

[PEN-L:5638] Re: Rethinking Overdetemination

1996-08-13 Thread SHAWGI TELL
Thanks for the input Paul, but you left one question sort of unanswered: is this notion of "economic determinism" part of yet another purely academic debate? Clarification: is the road to science a hard one to climb for workers only, or others as well? And does this mean that the notion of "

[PEN-L:5637] job openings

1996-08-13 Thread Michael H. Belzer
The Pennsylvania State Education Association announces the following employment opportunities. PSEA-NEA, a state education employees union. Two Assistant Dir of Research Positions: (1) Collective Bargaining and Educational Policy Analysis and (2) Compensation and Benefits. Advanced degree in Indu

[PEN-L:5636] Re: Rethinking Overdetemination

1996-08-13 Thread Paul Zarembka
Shawgi, In response to your queries, On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, SHAWGI TELL wrote: > Paul, a few questions: is this notion of "economic determinism" something > which is taken up by the working class, something which was given rise to > by the working class, or is it part of another purely academic d

[PEN-L:5635] Re: Rethinking Overdetemination

1996-08-13 Thread Blair Sandler
>Further, the notion of overdetermination has a second side: it >posits that all aspects of society have "equal" weight in that all >processes play a part in constituting all other processes. This >claim of "equal weight" also has no clear justification. We >certainly could have an essentialist ve

[PEN-L:5634] Re: FW-L Welfare Information re: U.S. (fwd)

1996-08-13 Thread Max B. Sawicky
James Michael Craven wrote: > .. >A Special Issue of Focus (Vol 18, No. 1 - Institute for Research on Poverty > >- Univ. of Wis.-Madison - http:///www.ssc.wisc.edu/irp/) outlines what has > >been occurring regarding welfare under the emerging new federalism. > >Research projects, analyses of cert