[PEN-L:7939] Louis Proyect and Socialism

1996-12-21 Thread Fikret Ceyhun
Dear Comrades, Bill Koehnlein's film review post (by Mitchel Cohen in Z Magazine) about Che Guevara and Louis Proyect's response started good discussion on socialism in Cuba and elsewhere. Jim Devine's mild response to Louis attracted other bystanders into the discussion. Unfortunately,

[PEN-L:7937] source of surplus for socialism

1996-12-21 Thread JDevine
I guess I must be brilliant [:-)] or at least say interesting things if I get quoted on pen-l so often, three times in rapid succession from personal and private conversations. (This may be better than being quoted from something I said publically on pen-l, but the quoter doesn't remember

[PEN-L:7936] The Destructive Character Of The Stock Market

1996-12-21 Thread SHAWGI TELL
A feature of the modern economy is that it is incapable of meeting the needs of the people. One of the myths which is being actively promoted these days amongst the entire people is that the booming stock market will provide them with future prosperity through the vehicle of RRSPs and Mutual

[PEN-L:7938] Re: Re[2]: Re: Che and Cuba

1996-12-21 Thread HANLY
Michael Perelman writes: Does Cuba stumble badly now? There seem to be two interesting trends. 1. Marketization is creating a class structure, just as you would expect under market socialism without autarky. 2. Here Bill should be as thrilled as I am: Cuba is developing truly green