[PEN-L:9355] fighting the good fight

1997-04-04 Thread Michael Perelman
Before we put the reqium for social democracy to bed, I would like to mention that I have known a couple of good, liberal fighters. I used to watch Paul Taylor at Berkeley, 80+ years old with Parkinsons, come in at 8:00 in the morning, tape up his eyelids so he could work, and work he did -- for

[PEN-L:9354] Re: requiem for social democracy -Reply

1997-04-04 Thread Michael Hoover
Patrick B: > And I recall Vicente Navarro's > argument that making the demand for single-payer and a national health > service more generally is a potentially revolutionary, not a reformist > demand; since the US capitalist class can (technically, financially, > administratively) concede it but wi

[PEN-L:9353] Re: requiem for social democracy -Reply

1997-04-04 Thread HANLY
Just a short note on the single payor system. While the single payor system was first introduced in Saskatchewan under the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation--that might be considered social democratic although I can't remember them ever referring to themselves in that way--the federal system un

[PEN-L:9352] yet more requiem

1997-04-04 Thread James Devine
Max writes: >>What remains difficult to demonstrate, it seems to me, as opposed to theorizing about, is whether the effective popular movement must be overtly revolutionary, or merely strong enough to be a political threat just by playing according to the rules of the bourgeois political system.

[PEN-L:9351] Re: Some silliness

1997-04-04 Thread Max B. Sawicky
> Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: ZAHNISER STEVEN SCOTT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [PEN-L:9345] Some silliness > Fed Head Wed! > > Fed Head Wed! > > Sorry, just wanted to get that out of my system! Rather than descend to something overtly off-color which occurred to

[PEN-L:9350] Re: more requiem

1997-04-04 Thread Max B. Sawicky
> Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PEN-L:9344] Re: more requiem > I am glad that Jim Devine takes the time to write serious responses > on pen-l. I certainly second his response to Max S. on social > democracy. By the way, if I am not mistake

[PEN-L:9349] Sherrit International To Expand Cuban Operations

1997-04-04 Thread SHAWGI TELL
Ian W. Delaney, President of Sherrit International Corp., considered the largest foreign investor in Cuba, said that his company planned on expanding its investments in Cuba. According to an article in Business Week, Sherrit will expand into the tourism industry, on top of its 50 per cent interes

[PEN-L:9348] Haitians Fight For Their Rights

1997-04-04 Thread SHAWGI TELL
Haitians organized protest actions on the same day that Canadian Foreign Minister Lloyd Axworthy visited that country. They are fighting against government privatization plans which they say will cost them thousands of jobs. Reports carried by international news agencies say that stores in

[PEN-L:9347] Re: The New Deal

1997-04-04 Thread Bill Burgess
A good source on how social gains were won through struggle, including progressive parts of the New Deal, is the 1964 book by Art Preis, Labour's Giant Step - The First Twenty Years of the CIO: 1936-55. The chapter 'New Deal - Myth and Fact' argues against notions that Roosevelt acted as a frie

[PEN-L:9346] Re: more requiem

1997-04-04 Thread Max B. Sawicky
> From: James Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [PEN-L:9343] more requiem > Max Sawicky responded to a little essay I presented to pen-l on > "requiem for social democracy" in a very irritating way. Rather than > trying to digest the whole thing, he splits it up and answers > p

[PEN-L:9345] Some silliness

1997-04-04 Thread ZAHNISER STEVEN SCOTT
Fed Head Wed! Fed Head Wed! Sorry, just wanted to get that out of my system! Steven Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEN-L:9344] Re: more requiem

1997-04-04 Thread MIKEY
Friends, I am glad that Jim Devine takes the time to write serious responses on pen-l. I certainly second his response to Max S. on social democracy. By the way, if I am not mistaken, Michael Goldfield wrote a piece which did try to demonstrate empitically that the New Deal (specifically the

[PEN-L:9343] more requiem

1997-04-04 Thread James Devine
Max Sawicky responded to a little essay I presented to pen-l on "requiem for social democracy" in a very irritating way. Rather than trying to digest the whole thing, he splits it up and answers piece-meal. That's not good for a serious discussion. I'll skip over his unneeded and distracting sarca

[PEN-L:9342] Re: National GDP Projections for 2010

1997-04-04 Thread Max B. Sawicky
> From: Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [PEN-L:9341] Re: National GDP Projections for 2010 > Paul Altesman wrote: > >Has anyone seen independent retrospectives of the accuracy of these > >estimates? . . . > The IMF has done several reviews of its own (and the OECD's)

[PEN-L:9341] Re: National GDP Projections for 2010

1997-04-04 Thread Doug Henwood
Paul Altesman wrote: >Has anyone seen independent retrospectives of the accuracy of these >estimates? I recall that the IMF published an assessment a couple of year's >ago - even 1 or 2 year forecasts didn't seem to be too good (not so clear >from the complicated presentation of the review; they

[PEN-L:9340] Re: requiem for social democracy

1997-04-04 Thread Max B. Sawicky
> From: Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [PEN-L:9324] Re: requiem for social democracy > Social Democracy, as we know it, creates a bigger problem. Because > the social democrats refuse to take on problems head on, they > usually screw up. Their actions discredit a

[PEN-L:9339] (en) strike update: settlement reached. (fwd)

1997-04-04 Thread D Shniad
Forwarded message: Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 00:45:13 -0500 Reply-To: Forum on Labor in the Global Economy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: Forum on Labor in the Global Economy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Tom Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: (en) strike update: settlement reached. (fwd) To

[PEN-L:9338] Re: soft budget constraint

1997-04-04 Thread Robin Hahnel
I stand corrected on the relative importance of MITI and the Ministry of Finance in the Japanese economic oligarchy. I think Rosser has better information on this than I do.