[PEN-L:9409] Re: Walras vs. Sraffa

1997-04-08 Thread Ajit Sinha
At 11:42 AM 4/7/97 -0700, you wrote: >Jim writes: > >>A long time ago, someone (Gil Skillman, I believe) argued on pen-l that the >>Sraffa system was simply a special case of the Arrow-Debreu general >>equilibrium model. _ As a matter of fact, Gil had made this claim d

[PEN-L:9408] The latest from Britain

1997-04-08 Thread Michael Eisenscher
Complements of Sid Shniad: >The Daily TelegraphMonday 7 April 1997 > >'INSANE NOTION' NOT SUCH A BAD IDEA NOW > > By Robert Shrimsley, Chief Political Correspondent > >"THE closest thing to legalised political corruption." This was how Tony Blair >described the

[PEN-L:9407] Re: socio-economics?

1997-04-08 Thread Thad Williamson
Etzioni had a book in the early '80s on the need to reindustrialize America, framed as a moral issue practically. it was not very progressive but not reaganomics either. can't remember what his prescription was exactly. the journal is actually called Review of Social Economy I think (or is this s

[PEN-L:9406] Re: The latest from Britain

1997-04-08 Thread HANLY
Does anyone have any information about popular opinion on privatisation in Britain. Recent experience in Manitoba indicated that there was a very substantial majority against privatization of the Manitoba Telephone System. The Tory government claimed it had no plans to privatise it during the elec

[PEN-L:9405] Re: Max and the Social Democrats

1997-04-08 Thread Antonio Callari
Doug Henwood wrote: (Hi Doug). >There is something of a - and please forgive me for sounding like a >financial economist in service to the rentier class - principal-agent >problem in SD leadership, and in union leadership too. At the top level, >people find it easy to get seduced into being the j

[PEN-L:9404] Re: Max and the Social Democrats

1997-04-08 Thread Doug Henwood
Elaine Bernard wrote: >A major problem in this and every other country >is that the S.D. parties, that have much more >flexibility (not a pretty term) to abandone their >base and acquire a new one There is something of a - and please forgive me for sounding like a financial economist in service

[PEN-L:9403] Max and the Social Democrats

1997-04-08 Thread Elaine Bernard
Max, I guess some of the difference is over the issue of the degree to which we need brokers who are other than us. To use my favorite sexist analogy "always a bridegroom but never a bride!" That is, both the far left (Leninist) and the center left (social democrats - only in America do we refer

[PEN-L:9402] social democracy ad infinitum

1997-04-08 Thread James Devine
I'm sorry if the following repeats anything that Sid, Elaine, Anders, and Louis said (not because they're wrong but because repetition is boring). I'll limit my discussion to a small number of points. Sorry if my missive is still too long.

[PEN-L:9401] Re: The discussion about social democracy

1997-04-08 Thread Max B. Sawicky
At the risk of being seriously outgunned, I will try to reply to Sid, Elaine, et al. Sid asks if I can name examples of constructive intercession and mediation by reformists. Note that 'mediation' here for me means translating the power of mass movements into actual policy. For some reason s

[PEN-L:9400] Opposition to Maastricht Treaty Grows (fwd)

1997-04-08 Thread D Shniad
> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:29:24 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Tony Wohlfarth, CAW - Canada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Opposition to Maastricht Treaty Grows > > Germany: SPD To Vote No on Maastricht If No EU Employment Policy > > Berlin Die Welt (Internet version) in German 4 Apr 97 > Report by Karl

[PEN-L:9399] Re: The discussion about social democracy

1997-04-08 Thread Tom Walker
Elaine Bernard wrote, > But we need to ROAR in the streets too! "Let's boogie!" (a private joke for BCers) Regards, Tom Walker ^^ knoW Ware Communications | Vancouver, B.C., CANADA | "Only in mediocre art [EMAIL P

[PEN-L:9398] Re: The discussion about social democracy

1997-04-08 Thread Louis Proyect
There has never been a successful resolution of the tension between reformist groups such the SP or CP, and smaller Trotskyist or Maoist groups that are self-avowedly revolutionary. (You PEN-L folks should count your blessings that you don't seem attract anybody from the latter camp). In countrie

[PEN-L:9397] Re: The discussion about social democracy

1997-04-08 Thread Anders Schneiderman
I wrote: > billion/yr. If European unions had put just 1% of their budgets into funding + >protecting their lighter-skinned brothers and sisters overseas, pushing world-wide wages Oops, make that darker-skinned. :) Anders Schneiderman Progressive Communications

[PEN-L:9396] Re: The discussion about social democracy

1997-04-08 Thread Anders Schneiderman
At 11:32 AM 4/8/97 -0700, Sid wrote: >My >personal experience with social democracy is that there is a huge gulf >between the rank and file activists within social democracy and the full >time, bureaucratic careerists who tend to dominate the organization, its use >of resources and its overal

[PEN-L:9394] Re: The discussion about social democracy

1997-04-08 Thread Elaine Bernard
Well, I'm going to weigh in with my buddy Sid, especially when he quotes Tony Benn. There's a concrete example of what he's talking about here in the US. For years, Lane Kirkland (anyone remember him!) said that labor needed to elect a democratic president with a democratic congress and we would

[PEN-L:9393] panel for URPE

1997-04-08 Thread Michael Perelman
Forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 13:58:43 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UID: 1272 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Michael Perlman: Would you be kind enough to circulate the enclosed message on the PEN-L system? Thanks, Jonathan Nitzan **

[PEN-L:9392] The latest from Britain

1997-04-08 Thread D Shniad
The Daily Telegraph Monday 7 April 1997 'INSANE NOTION' NOT SUCH A BAD IDEA NOW By Robert Shrimsley, Chief Political Correspondent "THE closest thing to legalised political corruption." This was how Tony Blair described the British Telecom, Gas and British A

[PEN-L:9391] PBS Frontline on Salinas brothers

1997-04-08 Thread D Shniad
I saw in my local TV listings that PBS' Frontline will be running a documentary on Mexico's Salinas brothers and the devastation they helped wreak on their country. Check your local listings. Sid Shniad

[PEN-L:9390] Tensions rising within ANC

1997-04-08 Thread D Shniad
The Globe and Mail Saturday, April 5, 1997 ALLIES ACCUSE ANC OF CHANGING STANCE: COMMUNIST LEADERS ATTACK STRATEGY PAPER By Hein Marais Special to The Globe and Mail JOHANNESBURG -- Crucial allies of President Nelson Mandela's African National Co

[PEN-L:9389] The discussion about social democracy

1997-04-08 Thread D Shniad
Okay. As a long time card carrying member of what is ostensibly a social democratic party, I have got to get into the discussion about social democracy. Max says "The issue isn't whether I or anyone else 'likes' social democracy or has faith in it or trusts anyone in particular. The issue is

[PEN-L:9388] Re: socio-economics?

1997-04-08 Thread Max B. Sawicky
> From: James Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [PEN-L:9386] socio-economics? > there's some sort of distinction between "socio-economics" (Etzioni) > and social economics (the REVIEW OF SOCIAL ECONOMICS). To make > things worse, there are several flavors of institutional econo

[PEN-L:9387] FW: BLS Daily Report

1997-04-08 Thread Richardson_D
> BLS DAILY REPORT, MONDAY, APRIL 7, 1997 > > RELEASED TODAY: "News Advisory -- BLS to Issue Experimental CPI > Indexes on April 10" points out that BLS will begin regular > publication of an experimental CPI that uses a geometric mean instead > of an arithmetic mean formula to calculate price

[PEN-L:9386] socio-economics?

1997-04-08 Thread James Devine
there's some sort of distinction between "socio-economics" (Etzioni) and social economics (the REVIEW OF SOCIAL ECONOMICS). To make things worse, there are several flavors of institutional economics, which is very similar to social economics. If any one knows what the differences are between these