Re: Fast Track: Not Dead Yet

1997-10-30 Thread Michael Eisenscher
Never underestimate the power of pork, not to mention graft and greed. At 09:56 PM 10/30/97 -0500, Doug Henwood wrote: I thought that Congressional leaders were very reluctant to schedule a vote whose outcome they didn't know in advance. This is beginning to sound like the NAFTA vote, which

New Zealand Employment Contracts Act

1997-10-30 Thread Ellen Dannin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Symposium on the New Zealand Employment Contracts Act The California Western International Law Journal is publishing a special symposium issue that will explore the impact of the New Zealand Employment Contracts Act of 1991 (ECA) on labor relations both in New Zealand and abroad. The

Re: Fast Track: Not Dead Yet

1997-10-30 Thread Doug Henwood
I thought that Congressional leaders were very reluctant to schedule a vote whose outcome they didn't know in advance. This is beginning to sound like the NAFTA vote, which looked dicey at first, but finally the recalcitrants came around to do their class duty Doug

Re: [PEN-L] Re: Reading Comprehension 101

1997-10-30 Thread Doug Henwood
Gerald Levy wrote: PS: Who suggested, in all seriousness, that the "intelligent use of bourgeois statistics" could serve as a substitute for Marxian empirical studies? Henry Rollins?

additions to the LBO website

1997-10-30 Thread Doug Henwood
A couple of recent additions to the LBO web site: * Gina Neff's report on the RESULTS Microcredit Summit - capitalist uplift with an est connection. * The Fed's latest numbers on U.S. wealth distribution: forget what you heard about the 1980s - it's the 1990s when the rich have really gotten

Re: [PEN-L] Re: everything's groovy

1997-10-30 Thread Fellows, Jeffrey
A ponzi scheme, as Tom wrote, might be an accurate conception of the political drive to privatize social security. Assuming the money stays in the US, wouldn't a large redirection of SS trust funds away from the bond market and into the stock market likely reduce bond prices (by eliminating the

Re: Marx on colonialism

1997-10-30 Thread Colin Danby
Lou: I am still confused by: The real culprit in all this teleological totalitarianism was not Marx, nor Hegel. Nor the Enlightenment thinkers before Hegel. Nor Descartes who got the whole totalitarian rational-thought campaign going. You have to go back to Plato who put Reason on a

list of basic econ/social institutions

1997-10-30 Thread James Devine
Larry Shute asks for a list of the basic institutions. I would define an "institution" as any organization created by people. 1) capitalism (the "capitalist mode of production"), a macro-societal institution that includes: a) markets. Not only are there major institutions within these markets

Day Three In The Struggle Against Bill 160

1997-10-30 Thread Shawgi A. Tell
On Wednesday, October 29, the Ontario government sent its lawyers into court to seek an injunction against the province's 126,000 teachers who are waging a political protest against Bill 160 by staying away from work. The government is asking the courts to expedite the matter so as to get its

Re: truth

1997-10-30 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Date sent: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:08:16 +1100 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ajit Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: truth Ajit, I agree that Althusser's theory of knowledge can meet some of the objections I raised (via

Re: Stags

1997-10-30 Thread Rebecca Peoples
Hi folks, Can anybody expalin to me in a clear way what is meant by the term STAG in stock market parlance. I know what is meant by bear and bull. Rebecca

Re: [PEN-L] Re: Reading ( Memory) Comprehension 101

1997-10-30 Thread Doug Henwood
Gerald Levy wrote: Doug Henwood wrote: PS: Who suggested, in all seriousness, that the "intelligent use of bourgeois statistics" could serve as a substitute for Marxian empirical studies? Henry Rollins? Perhaps the following will help refresh your memory: the above was suggested on the

[PEN-L] Re: Reading ( Memory) Comprehension 101

1997-10-30 Thread Gerald Levy
Doug Henwood wrote: PS: Who suggested, in all seriousness, that the "intelligent use of bourgeois statistics" could serve as a substitute for Marxian empirical studies? Henry Rollins? Perhaps the following will help refresh your memory: the above was suggested on the Internet on 10/25/87 by

Re: VOTE SCHEDULED ON FAST TRACK NOVEMBER 7

1997-10-30 Thread anzalone/starbird
Drive a steak through it's heart now lads, that's the best. Then there'll be no temptation next year. ellen Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 10:53:43 -0800 Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "michael perelman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: Reason, Abu-Lughod

1997-10-30 Thread Bill Burgess
On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Ricardo Duchesne wrote: This statement is both wrong in fact and theory. The Gulag was a creation of Stalin, whose ascendancy to power was made possible, to a large degree, by Lenin's creation of a highly centralized political party - as Trotsky had predicted back

[PEN-L] Re: Reading Comprehension 101

1997-10-30 Thread Gerald Levy
Stephen E Philion wrote: Gery, I think you are experiencing problems with reading comprehension. Did Doug actually say that "everything's groovy" or was he being facetious? I somehow suspect the latter. I would welcome any proof that he was being anything but facetious. Yes, Doug wrote

Microsoft responds

1997-10-30 Thread Sid Shniad
Press Release Wednesday, October 29, 1997 MICROSOFT ACQUISITION REDMOND, Washington – In direct response to accusations made by the Department of Justice, the Microsoft Corp. announced today that it will be acquiring the federal government of the United States of

Re: [PEN-L] Re: everything's groovy

1997-10-30 Thread Doug Henwood
Fellows, Jeffrey wrote: A ponzi scheme, as Tom wrote, might be an accurate conception of the political drive to privatize social security. Assuming the money stays in the US, wouldn't a large redirection of SS trust funds away from the bond market and into the stock market likely reduce bond

MAI Hearing Dates (Ottawa) (fwd)

1997-10-30 Thread shniad
Message from Bill Blaikie, MP NDP (opposition party) Ottawa From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blaikie, Bill - M.P.) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Olsen) Organization: House of Commons / Chambre des communes Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:19:33 -0500 Subject: RE: MAI hearings To: Bob Olsen From:

Reading Comprehension 101

1997-10-30 Thread James Devine
I think it's time to go back to using "smileys" ( ;-), etc.) to indicate the role of irony, sarcasm, subtle jokes, etc. Who wants a flame war? not I. (Shucks. I had to clarify my own answer to discourage people from thinking that I was asking the question the way one asks "anyone for tennis?")

Re: Institutions

1997-10-30 Thread Laurence Shute
Paul, Many thanks for your comments. However, I probably didn't make myself that clear. What information about the actual workings of the Canadian/US economy would you like your students to know before they leave school? For example, they need to know what GATT is, and what's happening with

Re: Reason, Abu-Lughod

1997-10-30 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Date sent: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:02:44 -0500 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Marx on colonialism Project writes: The real culprit in all this teleological totalitarianism was not

US profitability

1997-10-30 Thread James Devine
Trevor Evans writes: But its interesting to note that today's Financial Times (29 October, p. 14) carries an article by someone called Ricahrd Waters, which says: 'Leaving aside the effects of lower taxes and declind interest rates, the profits miracle looks much less impressive. A return on

Re: Marx on colonialism

1997-10-30 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Date sent: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:00:37 -0800 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: James Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] devine writes: Marx was also quite critical of _European_ societies. One of his mottoes was "ruthless criticism of all

Teachers Issue Open Letter (Canada)

1997-10-30 Thread Shawgi A. Tell
The Ontario Teachers Federation has issued an Open Letter to the people of Ontario addressing the issue of Bill 160, the Education Quality Improvement Act, and their struggle against it. Entitled "Bill 160 Will Not Improve Education," the Open Letter states that "Bill 160 is about the

Re: [PEN-L] everything's groovy

1997-10-30 Thread Tom Walker
Jerry wrote, Consider the options for working people who have savings (especially older workers): [blah, blah, blah, blah] One option not listed, investing in social change. Mutual aid, not mutual funds. Where's the imagination? Regards, Tom Walker

VOTE SCHEDULED ON FAST TRACK NOVEMBER 7

1997-10-30 Thread Robert Naiman

Re: Marx on colonialism

1997-10-30 Thread Louis Proyect
Ajit: I have not read Plato. But Descartes definitely does not have any teleological theory of history. Plato? Highly recommended. Especially "Apology", the dialog about Socrates' death sentence. Recent scholarship argues that he had it coming to him, but I'll reserve judgment on that.

FW: BLS Daily Reportboundary=---- =_NextPart_000_01BCE517.A33BE030

1997-10-30 Thread Richardson_D
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- =_NextPart_000_01BCE517.A33BE030 charset="iso-8859-1" BLS DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 29, 1997 RELEASED TODAY: State unemployment rates

Irish Presidential election

1997-10-30 Thread Rebecca Peoples
Some observations on the presidential campaign in the Irish Republic. Tomorrow there is to be a Presidential election in Ireland. There are five Presidential hopefuls: Mary McAleese, Mary Banotti, Dana, Adi Roche and Derek Nally. According to most o fthe opinion polls McAleese is tipped to win.

Re: Marx on colonialism

1997-10-30 Thread Ajit Sinha
At 08:16 29/10/97 -0800, Michael P. wrote: From: Ajit Sinha [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you are trying to find an easy way out for Marx. Marx's writing on India is definitely problematic. After saying things like, I don't know what "easy way out" means. Marx himself describes his intentions

Re: Marx on colonialism

1997-10-30 Thread Ajit Sinha
At 11:02 29/10/97 -0500, Louis Proyect wrote: Ajit: This is a serious problem with teleological theory of history, as well as the Marxist theory of praxis, which accepts the teleological theory of history. As long as one holds that historical and dialectical materialism is the 'true' theory and

US profitability

1997-10-30 Thread Trevor Evans
Thanks to Doug for reporting Anwar Shaik's evaluation of profitability. But its interesting to note that today's Financial Times (29 October, p. 14) carries an article by someone called Ricahrd Waters, which says: 'Leaving aside the effects of lower taxes and declind interest rates, the profits

Re: [PEN-L] Re: everything's groovy

1997-10-30 Thread Louis Proyect
I was somewhat surprised myself to see Levy's embrace of mutual funds myself. I guess there must be something in V. 3 of Capital that explains all this. More to the point is the political questions involved with "small investor" psychology. One of the things that is bound to take place sooner or

Re: [PEN-L] Re: everything's groovy

1997-10-30 Thread Gerald Levy
Doug Henwood wrote: Never thought I'd see reasoning like that on PEN-L. It's true: we have seen some weird reasoning on PEN-L recently. For instance, just the other day someone wrote re Wall Street that "everything's groovy"! People should keep their money in stocks because they have

Re: [PEN-L] Re: everything's groovy

1997-10-30 Thread Gerald Levy
I guess there must be something in V. 3 of Capital that explains all this. The particular issue that I raised ("investment" of savings by working-class families in the stock market) wasn't considered by Marx. However, Part 5 of V3, in particular the sections on credit and fictitious capital,

Re: Marx on Colonialism

1997-10-30 Thread Louis Proyect
Yes, I heard Kevin Anderson of "News and Letters" and author of "Lenin and Hegel" speak on the notebooks and their importance at a Socialist Scholars Conference a couple of years ago. The talk was provocatively titled "Marx as Multiculturalist." It whetted my appetite for their publication.

Re: Marx on colonialism

1997-10-30 Thread Louis Proyect
The racist remark about the Albanians was made by a certain James Robertson, who is the grand poobah of the World Spartacist League, at a meeting in NYC. James Robertson and Karl Marx have little in common. Louis Proyect At 11:39 AM 10/30/97 -0800, you wrote: In response to Ricardo, I didn't

Re: list of basic econ/social institutions

1997-10-30 Thread Laurence Shute
Jim, Thanks very much for your excellent suggestions. I would also appreciate more specifics from anyone who would like to suggest. Larry Shute Thanks for your message at 11:33 AM 10/30/97 -0800, James Devine. Your message was: Larry Shute asks for a list of the basic institutions. I would

Re: List of Basic Econ/Social Institutions in the Economy

1997-10-30 Thread Laurence Shute
Maybe my reply to Paul Phillips might help to clarify. Thanks for your message at 06:30 PM 10/29/97 -0600, valis. Your message was: Quoth Laurence Shute, in part: I would appreciate your help in compiling a list of the 50 -100 basic economic and social institutions in the US, possibly Canada

Re: Marx and irony

1997-10-30 Thread Colin Danby
Lou again: I will continue to use humor in my posts. Doug Henwood gets my sense of humor and that's all that matters to me. Doug has, however, the privilege of knowing you better than most of us do. I will fiercely resist smileys, but I'd point out that mockery etc. are only evident as

RE: URPE Web sight

1997-10-30 Thread Eric Nilsson
Can anyone tell me URPE's web sight? http://economics.csusb.edu/orgs/URPE/urpehome.html ... Eric Nilsson Department of Economics California State University San Bernardino, CA 92407 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Get on MAI Hearings list (fwd)

1997-10-30 Thread shniad
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Speller, Bob - Assistant 2) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ('Bob Olsen') Organization: House of Commons / Chambre des communes Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:02:22 -0500 Subject: MAI hearings Thank you for your e-mail concerning the upcoming hearings by the Sub-Committee

Re: Marx, stages and teleology.

1997-10-30 Thread Louis Proyect
Colin Danby: I will fiercely resist smileys, but I'd point out that mockery etc. are only evident as such if your underlying position is plain. Pleased though I am to know that Plato is off the hook, I'd still be grateful for clarification of your views on teleology and stages theories,

FWD: New Book (fwd)

1997-10-30 Thread Sid Shniad
State University of New York at Stony Brook Stony Brook, NY 11794-4356 Michael H Schwartz Professor Sociology

Re: [PEN-L] Re: everything's groovy

1997-10-30 Thread Michael Eisenscher
At 12:09 PM 10/30/97 -0500, Louis Proyect wrote: [SNIP] One of the things that is bound to take place sooner or later is the privatization of social security, just as it did in Chile. The whole point of the mutual funds industry is to get people to accept the idea that this is the only

Conference on privatization

1997-10-30 Thread Sid Shniad
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:50:34 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: early announcement of Hungarian symposium ADVANCE ANNOUNCEMENT Meeting the Challenge of Privatization: Its Impact on Occupational Health and Safety, Public Health,