At 06:25 PM 3/2/98 -0500, you wrote:
Louis P.,
Well, as a matter of fact this sort of case in
Rochester is exactly the sort that says that there needs to
be some very specific quantity controls. This is the kind
of case I had in mind with my mumbling about risky
situations and how
Anders,
Whether you have taxes, permits, quantity controls, or
whatever, if someone is poisoning someone else and that can
be shown (not always an easy if, as the Kodak situation
indicates), then the poisonees ought to be able to take the
poisoners to court, period. This is quite beyond
Barkely and Robin,
Correct me if I am off track here, but if permits are
distributed free (based on some past pattern), or if they
are initially priced below social cost, and then a
tradeable permit market created, does this not act as
a barrier to the entry of new firms who must buy up
permits
Very interesting--and quite right to connect the environmental movement
with jobs. How can we get the book? Does the Center have a web site?
June Zaccone, National Jobs for All Coalition, 475 Riverside Dr, NY, NY
10115-0050
Mike Yates wrote:
Friends,
In light of the recent discussion of
Well, I find Jim Devine's latest salvo on Krugman of
some interest. I think the following is going on:
1) He has read John Horgan's _The End of Science_.
Horgan is the one who coined this line about "cybernetics
to catastrophe to chaos to complexity" (all garbage
according to
Jim O'Connor writes:
Whether wages increase secularly or not would seem to depend on the
definition of Wallerstein's "average price of labor" which he seems to
equate with "urban wages" (presumably real wages). First, Is he talking
about an increase in the consumption basket or an increase in
The problem I still have with taxing pollution, let alone with trading
permits which is the moral equivalent of trading in human beings or
worse, is that I keep asking myself how we got here in the first place?
A century and a half of similar well-meant social reforms which collectively
managed
Some quick remarks for the discussion about the EMU on the list.
1) You can find - a bit schematically - two very different types of
criticisms of the euro-project in the many European countries,
varying in strength:
i) a left critique of the social consequences, the undemocratic
character
I think Clinton's appeal these days is attributable to three things:
1. Kenneth Starr's witch hunt. Left, right, or center, even if people think
Clinton is a moral and ethical beast -- no one likes a witch hunt.
2. As a society -- people in the USA are anti police. Oh yeah, this is a
Second the recommendation of BRASSED OFF. I think it is a much better
film, though with a different appeal.
Gene Coyle
For those of you who appreciated "the
Full Monty", let me highly recommend
another British film in the same genre --
"Brassed Off" about the closure of a
coal pit and
Subject: McUnion Busting, McClosure in Quebec
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998
From: Patrick Borden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Montreal, 14 Feb 1998
Friday the 13th brought bad luck to McDonald's workers in St-Hubert,
Quebec. Midnight saw management permanently close the store they were
close to
Dennis R Redmond wrote:
Let's not bury the European Parliament
No, but what would happen if you waved garlic at it? What a strange
creature the European Paliament is. Does it mean anything to the Europeans
here? I've been reading the Treaties of Rome Maastricht over the last
couple of days -
HTML
Friends,
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eric mann, not ed) at A HREF="http://www.igc.org/lctr/"http://www.igc.org/lctr//A
Pmichael yates
PJune Zaccone wrote:
BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITEVery interesting--and quite right to connect the
environmental movement
Hey Mike -- how about stripping out the machine language before you
forward articles? That would make it lots easier to share with others.
Thnx.
Sid
Subject: Ronald McDonald Burned in Effigy at McDonalds Protest
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998
From: Aaron Koleszar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
Ronald McDonald Burned in Effigy at McDonalds Protest
CHARLOTTETOWN, PEI - At 5:30 p.m. on Wednesday, February 18, six
On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Doug Henwood wrote:
Can countries as different
as Spain and Germany be under the same monetary space with no possibility
of national countercyclical fiscal or monetary policies? As a single euro
financial market emerges, it's almost certain that U.S.-style trading and
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From: mrobinson
To: UCS_LIST
Subject: URGENT ACTION REQUESTED
Date: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 10:18AM
March 3, 1998
To: UCS activists
From: Michelle Robinson, UCS Transportation Program
Senate Debate happening now on Federal Transportation Bill (ISTEA) -
URGENT ACTION REQUESTED
Quoth Dennis Redmond, in part, rebutting Doug:
[..T]he resistance to Maastricht monetarism in Europe is several hundred
million degrees hotter than the feeble, disorganized sparks of resistance
in America to the rule of Wall Street. Practically every Germany
university was rocked by
I want to strongly second Robin's rejection of the phrase "Command and Control."
This language is crafted and used to denigrate the idea of
REGULATION. We shouldn't use the phrase command and control. The
regulation I have observed over the past thirty years certainly was NOT
command
Gar W. Lipow wrote:
Robin Hahnel wrote:
I doubt you mean "non-tradable" in the above, since non tradable permits
are the equivalent of regulations (that most now call "command and
control."
No, I mean non-tradeable. Non-tradeable permits are not the same as regulation
if they
From: GATT WATCHDOG
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NZ - Union Journal Editor Sacked over MAI
PSA Editor sacked, escorted from work - Evening Post, Wellington, New
Zealand; 26/2/98 - Mark Stevens Employment Reporter
The editor of the Public Service Association journal has been sacked
1. Please forward
2. Send organizational endorsements to Robert Naiman @ Public Citizen,
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 202-546-4996, x302
Deadline is Thursday afternoon. The Crane bill is heading for a vote!
--
Oppose the Crane sub-Saharan Africa Bill!
Dear Representative:
Paul,
Of course. But then I and most on this list who have
defended permits have done so not on the basis of free
distribution or sale at below social cost. Again, I would
appreciate equivalent plans being compared, not an ideal
non-existent tax plan with an actually-existing permit
Comrades and Friends:
Progressive Sociologists' Network is happy to announce the
beginning of a virtual seminar to celebrate the 150th anniversary of
the publication of the Manifesto of the Communist Party.
The "Manifesto", the most widely read and defining single text in the
history of
Thanks to Robert Went for his contribution on this. I
would only add that in practice of the five convergence
criteria the only one that seems to be being enforced is
that of the 3% of GDP budget deficit rule which France,
Italy, and Germany were just announced as having met, with
Barkley,
Whether you have taxes, permits, quantity controls, or
whatever, if someone is poisoning someone else and that can
be shown (not always an easy if, as the Kodak situation
indicates), then the poisonees ought to be able to take the
poisoners to court, period. This is quite
Robin Hahnel wrote:
I doubt you mean "non-tradable" in the above, since non tradable permits
are the equivalent of regulations (that most now call "command and
control."
No, I mean non-tradeable. Non-tradeable permits are not the same as regulation
if they
are sold to the highest bidder.
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