Gunnar Tomasson, and I had a letter to the editor printed in this week's
collection of letters, in today's edition of the WSJE:
(Reproduced below with the original article reacted to below that again)
Our title 'Masquerading as economic science' was changed to:
Creative destruction gone too far
On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Michael Eisenscher wrote:
Democracy is not a spectator sport; it requires active participation. Active
participation by members is best assured where there is an organizational
engine created by rank and file caucuses or other formations in which the
Left participates
At 11:33 PM 11/16/98 -0500, you wrote:
BTW, Steve Fraser says in his "Dissent" article that "There are some
trade union leaders today...utterly devoted to organizing, tactically
creative, and militant, and who've achieved remarkable success against
daunting odds in the South and elsewhere who
On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, valis wrote:
Who's SAP?
Not a who, a what: a German intranet software maker, world
leader in enterprise systems, and not coincidentally Microsoft's worst
nightmare. See http://www.sap.com for the glorious details.
-- Dennis
I have not read Frasers original piece, but I noted one point of interest. He
seems to have a notion of democracy that is purely formal. For example, he
writes:
(3) the long-lived and ignoble practice of union democracy as a form of
exclusion by local majorities defined by race or gender or
Friends,
These are excellent points raised by Michael E. Perhaps we could say
that to build a labor movment which in turn will help to change the
society in a radical way, democracy is a necessary but insufficient
condition. A radical ideology is also needed.
BTW, Steve Fraser says in his
Max has already confessed to be Louis, so you have nothing to worry about
personnally. Just keep Papandreou inside when the Ebola hits the fan.
I'm having fun, but I worry that we're
the ruin of PEN-L.
mbs
Friends,
Brother Max makes good points, but I do not think that all that many of
today's union officials were yesterday's firebrands. Rather, as Kim
Moody argues, most came to power during the period of labor-management
cooperation and greater prosperity. This may be why so many have not
. . .
My recollection is that one of Ralph Nader's outfits was going after the
banking industry about hidden fees and service charges. . . .
They've got it backwards. The real problem is that
depositors receive income which is untaxed, notwithstanding
the fact that the source of that
Mike, Dennis, Max: all of you are reacting to hearsay. No one has
actually read the Fraser article in Dissent (if I haven't misperceived);
I don't even know who SF is, but this is tantamount to a lynching.
Easy big fella. The first words out of my virtual
mouth were "I didn't read the
In September I led a workshop on union democracy at a conference convened by
the Committees of Correspondence on the Role of Socialists in the Labor
Movement. Since the topic has been raised on this list, I am reproducing notes
I prepared as a lead-in to the discussion.
Michael E.
This is an
At 06:37 PM 11/16/98 -0500, you wrote:
[snip]
There are only two explanations. Either they are crooks or they are inept.
Consider a third: They are capitalists. Check the fine print. I bet you won't
find anywhere a promise that they will be fair, reasonable, or principled.
My recollection is
Replied the valis, indivisibly:
Quoth Tom W:
Oh, I get it: Come the witching instant all the great hostelries, banks
and other towers of commerce will be as wide open as pigeon roosts,
thanks to this stupid security overkill. Save Citibank for me, Tom!
How about Chase Online? As long as
Quoth Tom W:
Oh, I get it: Come the witching instant all the great hostelries, banks
and other towers of commerce will be as wide open as pigeon roosts,
thanks to this stupid security overkill. Save Citibank for me, Tom!
How about Chase Online? As long as you don't mind a five day
Christopher wrote: In response to Jim, I'm simply curious if it's possible
to have a Marxian understanding of firm behaviour, without neoclassical
microfoundations. I only wanted to hint at the evolutionary and
institutionalist critiques of orthodox theory -- those rehearsed by Hodgson
and Nelson
Just checked EPI web site at Max's suggestion, (see below) no NAFTA paper.
I am gearing up for a conference in Mexico early next year, where my task is
to present on NAFTA, would like to see the EPI report, and anything else
recent, with a critical edge.
Where did Perelman get his hot tip?
September 19, 1997 Issue Brief #120
NAFTA's CASUALTIES
Employment effects on men, women, and minorities
by Jesse Rothstein and Robert Scott
[NOTE: THE TABLES DID NOT COPY INTO THIS NOTE]
Since the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) went into effect
in 1994, there has
Michael Perelman wrote:
Isn't the strong US dolla as compared with the Peso and
the Canadian dollar responsible to a considerable degree for the
increasing balance of trade deficit between
the US versus Mexico and Canada? Wouldn't this be part of the cause of
the decrease in
On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Jim Devine wrote:
Does anyone know of any data that describes the relative sizes of the labor
forces, inside the U.S. vs. outside the U.S., hired by U.S.-based
corporations.
From the September '98 Survey of Current Business:
Employment (thousands) by U.S. nonbank
In the "Dissent" article Fraser makes light of union
democracy, arguing
that it can cause harm as well as good and, using the analogy of a
nation at war, arguing that since labor is in a war with capital, union
democracy is an unaffordable luxury.
I haven't read the article, but what
_
Doorknobs
I went to my first computer conference at the New York Hilton about 20
years ago. When somebody there predicted the market for
You can put the computer into the doorknob. But you can't take the doorknob
out of the computer.
You can computerize some of the doorknobs all of the time and you can
computerize all of the doorknobs some of the time, but you can't computerize
all of the dooryk2nobs all of the time.
Valis wrote,
Mike, Dennis, Max: all of you are reacting to hearsay. No one has
actually read the Fraser article in Dissent (if I haven't misperceived);
Here's the URL for the article:
http://www.igc.org/dissent/archive/summer98/fraser.html
Regards,
Tom Walker
On Mon, November 16, 1998 at 13:14:19 (-0800) Jim Devine writes:
...
Mike, I totally agree with your critique. Democracy strengthens an
organization, if the organization's goal is to help is membership rather
than the leaders.
As good an argument for economic democracy as I've heard.
Bill
Since I really believe in computer technology, I wanted to take advantage
of all the advances in automated personal finances. A couple of years ago I
invested in Quicken and think it is great. I write all checks on my
computer printer and they, along with deposits, are kept track of
On Mon, November 16, 1998 at 18:37:41 (-0500) Louis Proyect writes:
...
There are only two explanations. Either they are crooks or they are inept.
Just possibly they are just being cautious until the hacks they hired
instead of you figure out how to make the transactions work without
human
-
DISSENT / WINTER 1999/ VOLUME 46, NUMBER 1
-
Unions and Democracy
Steve Fraser Responds
valis wrote,
Oh, I get it: Come the witching instant all the great hostelries, banks
and other towers of commerce will be as wide open as pigeon roosts,
thanks to this stupid security overkill. Save Citibank for me, Tom!
How about Chase Online? As long as you don't mind a five day turnaround.
On Mon, November 16, 1998 at 18:05:38 (-0600) joshua william mason writes:
On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, William S. Lear wrote:
Employment (thousands) by U.S. nonbank MNCS
yeartotal parents affiliates majority-owned other affiliates
...
199626,392 18,775 7,617
In any case, with Chase branches closing down everywhere and with fees
going up on ATM machines, I'd like to see these crooked banks made to heel.
I am serious about this. My next step is to go to the State Attorney
General and contact radio and TV consumer reporters. Will keep you posted.
I
On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, William S. Lear wrote:
Employment (thousands) by U.S. nonbank MNCS
year total parents affiliates majority-owned other affiliates
...
1996 26,392 18,775 7,617 6,158 1,459
Strange. Just over 25,000 people employed by nonbank MNCs (I
On Mon, November 16, 1998 at 15:44:59 (-0600) joshua william mason writes:
On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Jim Devine wrote:
Does anyone know of any data that describes the relative sizes of the labor
forces, inside the U.S. vs. outside the U.S., hired by U.S.-based
corporations.
From the September
Hey, look what it took to get Stalkin' Tom Walker out of retirement!:
You can put the computer into the doorknob. But you can't take the doorknob
out of the computer.
You can computerize some of the doorknobs all of the time and you can
computerize all of the doorknobs some of the time, but
At 08:12 PM 10/31/98 +, Mike Yates wrote:
In the "Dissent" article Fraser makes light of union democracy, arguing
that it can cause harm as well as good and, using the analogy of a
nation at war, arguing that since labor is in a war with capital, union
democracy is an unaffordable
Mike, Dennis, Max: all of you are reacting to hearsay. No one has
actually read the Fraser article in Dissent (if I haven't misperceived);
I don't even know who SF is, but this is tantamount to a lynching.
But look on the bright side: thanks to our decline, Japan and the EU will
run things
On Sat, 31 Oct 1998, Mike Yates wrote:
I
thought that if two people who I respected and who were strong champions
of the unions could have this perspective, we were really in a lot of
trouble. Now Fraser's arguments tell me that we are in deep shit.
Of course we're in deep shit. Up to our
Does anyone know of any data that describes the relative sizes of the labor
forces, inside the U.S. vs. outside the U.S., hired by U.S.-based
corporations. Similar data (domestic vs. overseas hiring) is also useful
for O.E.C.D.-based countries. If the data were broken down according to
skill
I'm wondering if, based on the results reported below, we should conclude
NAFTA has been 'good' for Canada and Mexico, just like our bosses said it
would be.
NAFTA's CASUALTIES
Employment effects on men, women, and minorities
by Jesse Rothstein and Robert Scott
In an effort to avoid
Just as a footnote to Jim's interesting post,
on page 61 of Kaufman's *The Economics of Labor
Markets* (4th edition) is a graph of five
empirically estimated labour supply curves,
three are backward sloping throughout, two
are backward bending above $6 and $9 resprectively.
In short, only one has
The Guardian (London)
November 2, 1998
Churchill planned to drench Germany in gas
Richard Norton-Taylor reports
BODY: Winston Churchill: no time for 'psalm-singing defeatists': A second
world war German motorcycle team wears gas masks . . . a month after D-Day,
Churchill mooted drenching
Bob Pollin wrote: Without having done careful research on this
particular factor, four things seem most pertinent for understanding why
minimum wages do not correlate inversely--or at least not in a
straightforward way--with changes in employment. Thinking about a simple
labor market with a
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