[PEN-L:1178] Re: toxic sludge is good for you

1998-12-04 Thread rcam
ahh, i feel sooo patriotic. angela http://www.theage.com.au/daily/981201/breaking/ The Age Breaking News with AAP Australia 'ideal' for waste dump Australian anti-nuclear activists today expressed concern over a US promotional video advertising Australia as an ideal location for an

[PEN-L:1249] Re: New from Chossudovsky

1998-12-04 Thread Dennis R Redmond
On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, valis crossposted from Michel Chossudovsky: The formation of new "global alliances" between European and American capital has rapidly changed the balance of power in the World market. With the merger boom, British and German banking interests have (inter alia) joined

[PEN-L:1248] Re: Re: pen-l questions

1998-12-04 Thread joshua william mason
The discussion of Pen-L's role as an economics oracle for activists has shamed me into responding to the following query, something I'd thought about doing when it was posted a few weeks ago. Ken Hanly wrote: Do similar situations exist in the United States. Do unions have control over

[PEN-L:1244] Re: RE: Re: Patriotic economics: a provocation

1998-12-04 Thread Ellen Dannin
What about telling the story that American economics is properly a high wage economics and that adherence to a low-wage economics is UNAMERICAN? That is to say, for example, that not only is NAIRU questionable as a theory and misleading as a guide for policy, it is first and foremost FOREIGN.

[PEN-L:1243] RE: Re: Patriotic economics: a provocation

1998-12-04 Thread Max Sawicky
What about telling the story that American economics is properly a high wage economics and that adherence to a low-wage economics is UNAMERICAN? That is to say, for example, that not only is NAIRU questionable as a theory and misleading as a guide for policy, it is first and foremost FOREIGN.

[PEN-L:1241] Lump of Labor Jim Devine?

1998-12-04 Thread Eugene P. Coyle
Threads can tangle. Am I tangling things here? Jim Devine wrote ( in PEN-L:1212 Re: Re: pen-l questions n-1 ) valis, this is BS. The specific question I was addressing was: if minimum wages rise (or living-wage legislation is introduced) does it hurt employment? this seems to be quite relevant

Re: [PEN-L:1189] pen-l questions

1998-12-04 Thread Peter Dorman
Hey, Jim, I commented too. (Do I get a gold star?) Peter Dorman

[PEN-L:1240] Re: Patriotic economics: a provocation

1998-12-04 Thread Jim Devine
At 07:29 AM 12/4/98 -0800, Tom Walker wrote: What about telling the story that American economics is properly a high wage economics and that adherence to a low-wage economics is UNAMERICAN? That is to say, for example, that not only is NAIRU questionable as a theory and misleading as a guide for

[PEN-L:1238] Re: pen-l questions

1998-12-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] [130.179.16.47]
Gil, I await with baited breath. I hope it is out before I retire ;-) On the issue of efficiency wage, I think in its institutional form (gift-exchange model) it has been around for a long time in fact, if not in theory, in the workers demand from the 19th C for "a fair days work for a fair

[PEN-L:1234] Re: pen-l questions

1998-12-04 Thread Tom Kruse
Michael Perelman: I wish that we could work as a service where unions or activist organizations could throw questions at us. Just for the record, I strongly feel that each time I've thrown a question pen-l's way the reponse has been great. I've gotten articles on hidden unemployment, clearer

[PEN-L:1233] Re: Peron said it III

1998-12-04 Thread valis
C, of course. My favorite uncle always voted for the guy with the longest name, so I'm adopting that formula here. Does it work? Oh Reverend Tom, you make church into so much fun! -- And knowledge!! Why, I always thought NAIRU was a pile of sovereign bat guano in the South Pacific.

[PEN-L:1226] FW: THE G7 SOLUTION TO THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS: A MARSHALL PLAN FOR CREDITORS AND SPECULATORS

1998-12-04 Thread Robert Mac Diarmid
-Original Message- From: Discussions on the Socialist Register and its articles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sid Shniad Sent: Thursday, December 03, 1998 2:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: THE G7 "SOLUTION" TO THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS: A MARSHALL PLAN FOR CREDITORS AND

[PEN-L:1228] Re: Peron said it II

1998-12-04 Thread valis
Quoth Reverend Tom: Below is the epigraph in the mission statement of a small Leninist org rooted in France and Belgium: Europe will unify or succumb. The year 2000 will see Europe unified or dominated. The same goes for Latin America. (Juan

[PEN-L:1222] Patriotic economics: a provocation

1998-12-04 Thread Tom Walker
What about telling the story that American economics is properly a high wage economics and that adherence to a low-wage economics is UNAMERICAN? That is to say, for example, that not only is NAIRU questionable as a theory and misleading as a guide for policy, it is first and foremost FOREIGN.

[PEN-L:1225] Re: Peron said it

1998-12-04 Thread Tom Walker
Valis wrote, Below is the epigraph in the mission statement of a small Leninist org rooted in France and Belgium: Europe will unify or succumb. The year 2000 will see Europe unified or dominated. The same goes for Latin America. (Juan PERON) That

[PEN-L:1221] Re: Re: Ford and GM's Nazi ties

1998-12-04 Thread William S. Lear
On Thu, December 3, 1998 at 23:08:01 (-0800) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill Lear wrote: Dropping bombs on civilians from 25,000 feet is courage? Actually, the airman had one of the highest mortality rates in the war. So, if you grant the reasonableness of the war ... , then, dropping

[PEN-L:1219] Peron said it

1998-12-04 Thread valis
Below is the epigraph in the mission statement of a small Leninist org rooted in France and Belgium; beneath it was my query, which, perhaps symptomatically, has gone unanswered. I wonder if Peron ever considered the possibility that 2000 would find Europe both unified _and_ dominated? As for

[PEN-L:1213] Re: Re: Re: pen-l questions

1998-12-04 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Penners, Just popped in to pick up some books and saw Mike and Jim's notes. I just gotta say that, while this list ain't always what I might have expected when first I put my oar in, it is always a terrific list - fully warranted by what it is, never mind what it each of us might wish for

[PEN-L:1215] pen-lquestions

1998-12-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] [130.179.16.47]
Jim asks why we don't debate/explore theoretical questions more. To me the answer is easy. For the political, ephemeral questions that dominate the list (and which I enjoy as much as anyone else), it is easy to drop a line or two in response. For the kind of issues Jim wants us to debate, it

[PEN-L:1218] Death in the air in WW2

1998-12-04 Thread valis
Michael P answering Bill Lear: Dropping bombs on civilians from 25,000 feet is courage? Actually, the airman had one of the highest mortality rates in the war. So, if you grant the reasonableness of the war ... I recall reading that combat deaths in the air on all sides exceeded a

[PEN-L:1220] BLS Daily Report

1998-12-04 Thread Richardson_D
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- =_NextPart_000_01BE1F8A.567417F0 BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, DECEMBER 3, 1998 RELEASED TODAY: The seasonally adjusted annual rates of productivity

[PEN-L:1223] New from Chossudovsky

1998-12-04 Thread valis
On Thu, 03 Dec 1998 12:26:42 -0500, Michel Chossudovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE G7 "SOLUTION" TO THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS: A MARSHALL PLAN FOR CREDITORS AND SPECULATORS by Michel Chossudovsky Professor of Economics, University of Ottawa, author of "The Globalisation of Poverty,

[PEN-L:1224] Re: Patriotic economics: a provocation

1998-12-04 Thread Brad De Long
What about telling the story that American economics is properly a high wage economics and that adherence to a low-wage economics is UNAMERICAN? That is to say, for example, that not only is NAIRU questionable as a theory and misleading as a guide for policy, it is first and foremost FOREIGN.

[PEN-L:1227] Re: Patriotic economics: a provocation

1998-12-04 Thread Tom Walker
Brad DeLong wrote, "Skirt on"? Cover itself in like a dog rolling in a raccoon roadkill carcass, rather... No. I agree that is the danger and we could both cite many instances. But it is not an inevitability. The distinction between danger and inevitability is as crucial as the difference

[PEN-L:1230] Re: Peron said it II

1998-12-04 Thread Tom Walker
Valis wrote, C, of course. My favorite uncle always voted for the guy with the longest name, so I'm adopting that formula here. Does it work? Oh Reverend Tom, you make church into so much fun! -- And knowledge!! Why, I always thought NAIRU was a pile of sovereign bat guano in the South

[PEN-L:1232] Re: Re: Re: pen-lquestions

1998-12-04 Thread Jim Devine
At 08:38 AM 12/4/98 -0800, you wrote: James Devine wrote: Lester, whose work I haven't read but have seen cited, anticipated the fad of the efficiency wage hypothesis that seems to have come and gone without much or any impact on the textbooks. I question whether the efficiency wage is a

[PEN-L:1231] Re: Re: pen-lquestions

1998-12-04 Thread Michael Perelman
James Devine wrote: Lester, whose work I haven't read but have seen cited, anticipated the fad of the efficiency wage hypothesis that seems to have come and gone without much or any impact on the textbooks. I question whether the efficiency wage is a fad. The idea has origins that predate

[PEN-L:1235] Re: Re: Re: Ford and GM's Nazi ties

1998-12-04 Thread James Michael Craven
Response: So would courage on this man's part been to have joined the "America First" Movement? Of course World War II was an inter-imperialist war in many respects; but the everyday airmen, sailors, soldiers were used as cannon fodder and little to do with that. And once the war began, the

[PEN-L:1237] Re: pen-lquestions

1998-12-04 Thread Tom Walker
Jim Devine wrote, it's only fad among neoclassicals. As usual, the NCs claim Smith as their founder at the same time they don't read his books. Not reading the books is endemic to a textbook mentality and not peculiar to neoclassical economics. Vulgar Marxism is as unedifying as Samuelson. The

[PEN-L:1242] question on labor econ texts

1998-12-04 Thread Tom Kruse
Penners: 1. OK, so there's no good labor econ textbook out there. So what do I do? Is there a good review essay or two on why labor econonics today is in such a pitiful state, with refereces to the real world? 2. I'd like to follow up on Jim D's thread, and suggest ways to make the list more

[PEN-L:1245] NZ

1998-12-04 Thread Doug Henwood
Ellen Dannin wrote: though I have a wee obsession with things Kiwi Speaking of NZ, today's Financial Times has an article on the country. I'm quoting only the lead (or lede, as we say in j'ism), so as not to get Don Roper's copyright reflex all a-flutter. You can get the whole thing from the

[PEN-L:1246] RE: Re: RE: Re: Patriotic economics: a provocation

1998-12-04 Thread Max Sawicky
Zealand economist Tim Hazeldine's new book, Taking New Zealand Seriously: The Economics of Decency (Harper / Collins). He really has a knack for Couldn't find this at Amazon, Barnes Noble, or Harper/Collins. Max

[PEN-L:1247] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Patriotic economics: a provocation

1998-12-04 Thread Ellen Dannin
Zealand economist Tim Hazeldine's new book, Taking New Zealand Seriously: The Economics of Decency (Harper / Collins). He really has a knack for Couldn't find this at Amazon, Barnes Noble, or Harper/Collins. Harper / Collins New Zealand - isbn 1 86950 283 3 P.O. Box 1, Auckland, NZ. Ellen

[PEN-L:1250] Re: Lump of Labor Jim Devine?

1998-12-04 Thread Jim Devine
Tangling threads, Eugene writes: First, quoting me:... The specific question I was addressing was: if minimum wages rise (or living-wage legislation is introduced) does it hurt employment? ... then: ... Tom Walker two posts seem to address Jim's quandry, before he raised it. ([PEN-L:1204] the