[PEN-L:4001] Re: Re: question on Kapital

1999-03-01 Thread Tom Kruse
At 04:01 PM 1/03/99 -0800, you wrote: >I also find the selection of Marx >and Engels' work on CD rom to be useful. Where/how do I get the CD Rom? I saw it addvertised on the MR Press website, and sent an email to enquire, but they NEVER f$%&king answer email (or faxes, or letters for that matter

[PEN-L:4011] The Calvinist Reform [fwd]

1999-03-01 Thread Tom Walker
>A corollary of dual predestination was Calvin's doctrine of the >two covenants, derived from his understanding of the Old >Testament. One was the "covenant [compact or contract] of >prosperity" and the other the "covenant of election." As Calvin >saw it, God had chosen the Israelites and covenant

[PEN-L:4010] Re: Workers' Bill of Rights [fwd]

1999-03-01 Thread Tom Walker
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --759E1D9D21A3 > You wrote: " Has any one the list come across a Workers' Bill of Rights?" > > The following letter was submitted last year to a New England town > meeting intended to formulate a bill of rights regarding economic rights

[PEN-L:4002] Re: Re: Postmodernist Marxism

1999-03-01 Thread MScoleman
In a message dated 99-03-01 10:32:50 EST, you write: << Lenin wrote and strategized about Russia in the early 20th century - a partly industrialized, mainly rural society at the periphery of the Eurocapitalist world. We live in the United States in 1999, an economic and imperial giant whose ci

[PEN-L:4009] articles about the current situation in Russia

1999-03-01 Thread Peter Dorman
Does anyone have any recommendations for recent articles describing the current Russian reality? I am primarily interested in description with a bit of chronology; analysis (theoretical disputes over what caused the collapse or what it "means" in the greater sweep of history) is not important. R

[PEN-L:4004] Re: Re: Postmodernist Marxism

1999-03-01 Thread William S. Lear
On Monday, March 1, 1999 at 11:25:17 (-0500) Doug Henwood writes: >William S. Lear wrote: > >>I agree with the effort here to find a more pertinent explanation for >>the problems of our current society. It's quite true that we do not >>need faith of any sort to guide us. However, I do want to qu

[PEN-L:3998] Re: secret societies

1999-03-01 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: >for those who don't know, Yale's secret societies are like normal >fraternities except that they create networks of business and other >connections that for a long time (and to a large extent still do) form a >backbone allowing the ultra rich to communicate and cooperate. And

[PEN-L:4005] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: circularities

1999-03-01 Thread Jim Devine
angela writes: >the assumption that certain writers are in fact attempting to develop >an alternative to marxism is not entirely correct, and this is an >assumption deployed more by marxists than the ostensible 'other side'. >moreover, the MR volume is disingeneous: there is no assault on >history

[PEN-L:3996] Re: Re: Re: Re: circularities

1999-03-01 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: >BTW, were you a member of a secret society at Yale? (I wasn't.) Nope. I learned almost all I know about them from an article by Ron Rosenbaum in Esquire. I went to a party at Berzelius once, but that's when it was run by hippies. >did you write sexual memoirs? Nope. But the

[PEN-L:3992] Re: Re: Why Read Butler?

1999-03-01 Thread Tom Kruse
At 04:29 PM 1/03/99 -0500, you wrote: >> Paris is Burning", an interesting documentary on gay African >> American streetgangs and their fight for their own cultural identity. > >wasn't above about Harlem ball subculture from which Madonna ripped >off voguing?...as I recall, one person in the film

[PEN-L:3995] Re: Re: Re: Re: circularities

1999-03-01 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Jim Devine replies to Doug Henwood: >>It's not just Lou I'm talking about; it's a bonding ritual among certain >styles of leftists, like sexual memoirs are in Yale secret societies. Why >does Monthly Review have to publish symposia "In Defense of History"?< > >Why not? even if one doesn't think th

[PEN-L:3990] the wrong enemy

1999-03-01 Thread Frank Durgin
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_01BE6410.5961F980 While overspending to contain Saddam, we neglect programs that could save us from nuclear annihilation. --=_NextPart_000_01BE6410.5961F980 0M8R4KGxGuEAPgADAP7/CQAGAAABMQA

[PEN-L:3991] Re: Re: circularities

1999-03-01 Thread Charles Brown
What about all of these other authors and writers and scholars ? Do we need them to tell us what they are telling us ? Do we really need Derrida or Rorty to tell us what they are telling us more than we need Lenin to tell us what he is telling us ? Charles Brown >>> Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROT

[PEN-L:3999] Marxism in Crisis

1999-03-01 Thread Michael Perelman
Of course, Marxism is in crisis. We are we, disorganized, and subject to frequent bouts of vanguardism. I don't know when Marxism was not in crisis. Perhaps during the heyday of the Soviet Union, some Marxist may have thought that they had the answer to the world's ills. Our job should be to try

[PEN-L:3988] circularities

1999-03-01 Thread Louis Proyect
Doug: >That wasn't the point. Lou claimed surprise that anyone could describe >Marxism as being in crisis in the 1970s. I pointed to the dire state of the >SWP as a sign that it was. The SWP was not in a "dire state" in the mid-70s, Doug. What happened is that they reversed direction completely

[PEN-L:3997] secret societies

1999-03-01 Thread Jim Devine
I asked: >>did you write sexual memoirs? Doug answers: >Nope. But the Skull & Bones initiation ritual involves lying naked in a >coffin and reciting your personal history, not writing anything. Or so they >say. for those who don't know, Yale's secret societies are like normal fraternities exce

[PEN-L:3993] software needed

1999-03-01 Thread EDT
Does anyone has software titled Z-EM@IL (I or II) by Rupp Technologies? This is an email package for Zaurus. Please respond off-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Wojtek

[PEN-L:3987] Re: Re: circularities

1999-03-01 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: >Louis Proyect wrote: >>Doug, the critique of SWP's "workerism" is not to be >found in Foucault, but in Lenin.<< > >Doug responds: >"The cure for what's wrong with America lies in what's >right with America." - Bill Clinton< > >This is much too flippant a response. Louis' point

[PEN-L:3986] Re: Schumpeter and Creative Destruction

1999-03-01 Thread Charles Brown
You mean like the mode of destruction, military industrial complex, nuclear and biological weapons ? Charles Brown >>> "Michael Hoover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/01/99 04:19PM >>> > Creative destruction occurs when innovation makes old ideas and > technologies obsolete. > Henry C.K. Liu what abo

[PEN-L:3985] Re: Why Read Butler?

1999-03-01 Thread Michael Hoover
> Paris is Burning", an interesting documentary on gay African > American streetgangs and their fight for their own cultural identity. wasn't above about Harlem ball subculture from which Madonna ripped off voguing?...as I recall, one person in the film did compare the Houses to street gangs and

[PEN-L:3984] Re: Schumpeter and Creative Destruction

1999-03-01 Thread Michael Hoover
> Creative destruction occurs when innovation makes old ideas and > technologies obsolete. > Henry C.K. Liu what about destructive creation? Michael Hoover

[PEN-L:3994] Re: question on Kapital<199903011351.IAA03810@aloha.cc.columbia.edu><199902281826.NAA09422@ciao.cc.columbia.edu><5a024af2.36d9720d@aol.com> <3.0.6.32.19990301143441.0087ecf0@albatros.cnb.net>

1999-03-01 Thread Michael Perelman
Tom, I was wrong about Penguin. Their edition is still in print. I suppose that the International Publishers is also. I also find the selection of Marx and Engels' work on CD rom to be useful. Tom Kruse wrote: > I need to get a complete Capital in English. Any suggestions on versions, > publ

[PEN-L:3983] Re: Why Read Butler?

1999-03-01 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
Dennnis, Thanks for the partial annotated bibliography. Barkley Rosser -Original Message- From: Dennis R Redmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 4:26 AM Subject: [PEN-L:3926] Why Read Butler? >Barkley -- I know you aske

[PEN-L:3982] Re: circularities

1999-03-01 Thread Charles Brown
Some of the sense of Jim's meaning here is captured in referring to Marxism as dialectical materialism. Dialectics is the science of motion in nature, society and thought, according to Engels; along with the dialectics of absolute and relative truth ( elucidated by Engels in _Anti-Duhring_ and

[PEN-L:3989] Re: Re: Re: circularities

1999-03-01 Thread Jim Devine
Doug writes:>Lou claimed surprise that anyone could describe Marxism as being in crisis in the 1970s. I pointed to the dire state of the SWP as a sign that it was. I could also have brought up the feminist critique of Marxism, which was going pretty hot & heavy then. Of course URPE was predicting

[PEN-L:3979] question on Kapital

1999-03-01 Thread Tom Kruse
I need to get a complete Capital in English. Any suggestions on versions, publishers, translations? Thanks! Tom Tom Kruse Casilla 5812 / Cochabamba, Bolivia Tel/Fax: (591-4) 248242 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEN-L:3978] Class Action

1999-03-01 Thread Tom Kruse
Anyone read this? Comments? Class Action: Reading Labor, Theory, and Value (Contestations) by William Corlett Cornell University Press, 1998. The publisher, Cornell University Press , August 28, 1998: Class Action attempts to contest capitalist economics and to strengthen workers' organization

[PEN-L:3981] BLS Daily Report

1999-03-01 Thread Richardson_D
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --_=_NextPart_000_01BE6416.AEA59980 BLS DAILY REPORT, FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 26, 1999 RELEASED TODAY: Unemployment rates decreased in 38 states from 1997 to 199

[PEN-L:3973] Final thoughts on art and revolution

1999-03-01 Thread Louis Proyect
There is a dialectical tension in Trotsky's writings on art and revolution that ultimately are rooted in some of the most fundamental questions of our epoch. Rather than addressing peripheral matters of "style," they really are about the possibilities for cultural as well as material progress in t

[PEN-L:3971] Postmodernist Marxism

1999-03-01 Thread Louis Proyect
>Lenin wrote and strategized about Russia in the early 20th century - a >partly industrialized, mainly rural society at the periphery of the >Eurocapitalist world. We live in the United States in 1999, an economic and >imperial giant whose citizens (and residents) are atomized, mediatized, and >al

[PEN-L:3970] Re: Postmodernist Marxism

1999-03-01 Thread Charles Brown
Of course, _The Manifesto of the Communist Party_ was written in 1848, 22 years before Lenin was born. But seeing the scientific principles in that manuscript as pertinent to capitalism 1999 is more like considering the writing of Darwin as still valid in biology than treating the Manifesto lik

[PEN-L:3969] Re: Re: Re: Postmodernist Marxism

1999-03-01 Thread Doug Henwood
William S. Lear wrote: >I agree with the effort here to find a more pertinent explanation for >the problems of our current society. It's quite true that we do not >need faith of any sort to guide us. However, I do want to quibble a >bit: to say that people here have "little faith in any institu

[PEN-L:3966] Asia's Model of Development

1999-03-01 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Just want to tidy up a few things on the stuff I sent last week on Asia's model of development, then I am out of here. I been saying that Asia's higher productivity was due to a higher output-to-seed ratio, not innovations; and that by the 18th century this agricultural regime could not grow

[PEN-L:3980] why the boom in stock prices, 1995-1998?

1999-03-01 Thread Barbara Laurence
Does anyone know or know where to find any study of the importance of US company stock buybacks, plus the importance of global money fleeing Asia and "emerging countries" generally, on the rise in stock prices? In the form, let's say, of a percentage rise in stock prices due to these factors activ

[PEN-L:3967] Re: Postmodernist Marxism

1999-03-01 Thread Doug Henwood
Louis Proyect wrote: >Doug, the critique of SWP's "workerism" is not to be found in Foucault, but >in Lenin. Postmodernist Marxism does not address the topic of how to build >socialist organizations. Lenin wrote and strategized about Russia in the early 20th century - a partly industrialized, ma

[PEN-L:3977] Summer Course: Value of Culture

1999-03-01 Thread Jim Devine
the following may be of interest to pen-l, if only because it relates to recent debates. >You are kindly invited to participate in the following Summer Course > >Please forward this message to anyone interested / students. >Excuses for cross-postings > >-

[PEN-L:3976] Re: circularities

1999-03-01 Thread Jim Devine
Louis Proyect wrote: >>Doug, the critique of SWP's "workerism" is not to be found in Foucault, but in Lenin.<< Doug responds: >"The cure for what's wrong with America lies in what's right with America." - Bill Clinton< This is much too flippant a response. Louis' point is basically true: the bus

[PEN-L:3975] Re: survey on stock mkt expectations?

1999-03-01 Thread DOUG ORR
A couple of weeks ago, someone posted the results of a survey (done by some news agency) that reported that the majority of small mutual fund "investors" expected the stock market to continue to rise at 18 % per year. At the time I noted to myself that this was absurd. But now I find that I ne

[PEN-L:3968] Re: Re: Postmodernist Marxism

1999-03-01 Thread William S. Lear
On Monday, March 1, 1999 at 10:24:43 (-0500) Doug Henwood writes: >... >Lenin wrote and strategized about Russia in the early 20th century - a >partly industrialized, mainly rural society at the periphery of the >Eurocapitalist world. We live in the United States in 1999, an economic and >imperial

[PEN-L:3974] crisis theory

1999-03-01 Thread Jim Devine
In case pen-l is interested, here's a short dialogue I had with an author in England: At 11:27 AM 3/1/99 +, you wrote: >I take it that the piece you added into your e-mail is your own, or at >least your own view. I take it to mean that the keynesian view of crisis, >namely the lack of effect

[PEN-L:3964] Postmodernist Marxism

1999-03-01 Thread Louis Proyect
>Oh and they were doing swimmingly well here in the U.S. in the mid- and >late-70s too, weren't they? When was it the SWP was sending people into >factories, and denouncing computer programmers? > >Doug Doug, the critique of SWP's "workerism" is not to be found in Foucault, but in Lenin. Postmode