Ah, Jim ... bard of ages ... what luscious lustrous voluptuous vituperative
vitriolic poetry!
I'm off to get this one framed!
You waxed thus:
I wanted it as it so
elegantly and succinctly sums up the essence, ugly nature behind the mask,
twisted logic--reducio ad absurdum/nauseum, disgusting
Audie Bock, the new Green Assembly representative from Cal. has a
question for us. She asked, about transit issues. She quotes: "I have
the impression that mass transit and highway planning are treated as two
separate and distinct issues. I believe that when planning our highways
in California
Bill Waller the 'radical institutionalist' from Hobart and William Smith College,
received his PhD from there, so
he might know. His e-mail is:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Robert Naiman wrote:
Does anyone know if there are any progressive faculty in the Econ department at the
University of New
Michael Perelman wrote:
Audie Bock, the new Green Assembly representative from Cal. has a
question for us. She asked, about transit issues. She quotes: "I have
the impression that mass transit and highway planning are treated as two
separate and distinct issues. I believe that when planning
Michael Perelman wrote: Audie Bock, the new Green Assembly representative
from Cal. has a question for us. She asked, about transit issues. She
quotes: "I have the impression that mass transit and highway planning are
treated as two separate and distinct issues. I believe that when planning
our
Jim Devine wrote:
from SLATE magazine's "today's papers" round-up (by Scott Shuger):
USA TODAY leads with a Commerce Dept. study coming out today concluding
that digital business companies are driving the nation's economic growth.
The study states that computer and communication hardware,
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From: Rob Schaap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Ah, Jim ... bard of ages ... what luscious lustrous voluptuous vituperative
vitriolic poetry!
I'm off to get this
Thanks to Doug H, Robert Naiman and Lisa and Ian Murray for sending
materials. My class will thank you and benefit.
BTW, I heard, but do not know, that for some time Summers did not deny
having written that memo and then later claimed he did not write it but it
was a memo of understanding to
Rod Hay wrote:
The real question of "Info Revolution" is not wheither it generates an
accelerated growth rate for a few years, but wheither it changes the
relations of production, or social relations. I think there is some evidence
in favour but that it is inconclusive. And certainly is
Craven, Jim wrote:
Well for vitriolic "poetry" embodied in the "positivist and
"free-of-'normative'-considerations calculus" of "rationality and
optimality", I can't match:
"I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the
lowest-wage country [or preferably Indian
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Craven, Jim wrote:
Well for vitriolic "poetry" embodied in the "positivist and
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Craven, Jim wrote:
BTW, I heard, but do not know, that for some time Summers did not deny
having
At 11:50 AM 6/22/99 -0400, Henry Liu wrote:
of automobile configuration. Cars of course are air polluting.
Yet, the advantages of the highway/auto system are not insubstantial. It
serves effectively the spread-out existing urban patterns, albeit because the
pattern grew from it.
The car
I would greatly appreciate it if someone could spend a few paragraphs to get
me on the way to understanding what the current ruling class economic
ideology is these days. I would hazard that Monetarism supply side
variants are relatively discredited, while on the other hand, one sees 'The
I have a theory about the info-rev and the changing structure of firms.
I won't go into the reasons (too long), but the main points are:
1. Firms exist primarily to internalize and utilize nonprice
information.
2. Various administrative models have historically been used to carry
out these
Peter wrote:
There is evidence that General Motors conspired to destroy dozens of
public transit systems in the 1930's and '40s, ...
I don't know about other cities, but GM and others definitely conspired to
destroy the "Red Line" trolley system in Los Angeles. In fact, they
succeeded in doing
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I would greatly appreciate it if someone could spend a few paragraphs to get
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The Progressive Response 22 June 1999 Vol. 3, No. 22
Editor: Martha Honey
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The Progressive Response (PR) is a weekly service of
Interesting topic. Like Henry Liu, I am also a planner, a
housing planner, but regionally, planners, designers, architects,
land use lawyers and a lot of forward looking environmental
thinkers of all hues of green are interested in trade-offs
between land use densities, urban design strategies
.. . . OF THE NATIONAL DIFFICULTIES, DEDUCED FROM PRINCIPLES OF POLITICAL
ECONOMY, IN A LETTER TO LORD JOHN RUSSELL.
"The leanness that affects us, the objects of our misery, is an inventory to
particularise their abundance." -- Shakspeare
"How to solder, how to stop a leak--that now is the
So I'm sitting in the third row at the Brecht Forum last Thursday night
waiting for Michael Yates to begin his talk on his new book "Why Unions
Matter" and guess who I run into? None other than Red Jackman, the barfly
and Shachtmanite I haven't seen since 1975 from Club 55 down on Christopher
Lawrence Summers [or his ghostwriter] minimizes this stuff in the passage
exerpted by Doug. But it's been several years, so maybe the "inforev" is
kicking in?
I don't think so... That's Lant Pritchett in his
anti-conventional-wisdom-rant mode. He is quite eloquent--and he certainly
can make one
Rod Hay wrote:
I don't doubt that these things are happening at least marginally, but does
this constitute a "revolution" similar in importance as the industrial
revolution in the 19th century or the corporate revolution in the 20th
century.
Computers are over 50 years old now; they're no
Re "popular support": Check out the film "Taken for a Ride" which details
the destruction of the transit systems around the country by GM, Firestone,
et. al. How can popular support be developed for something which doesn't
exist. Can we "vote with our dollars" when there isn't something to
Wojtek Sokolowski wrote:
snip
If memory serves there was group in SF Bay area advocating "planned
congestion" and "market" (i.e. price) approach (increasing bridge tolls and
parking fees) to make cars less attractive for commuters - a very clever
way of using market ideology to fight
The information technology revolution is best compared to electricity, I
think. Just as electricity permitted a truly distributed power supply,
so the computer does this to information. It's hard to imagine the
radical reorganization of work and space in the twentieth century
without
Doug, there is a fear of giving up the car with a loathing for the traffic
jams. The preferred solution is better roads which just create more traffic.
Because public transport is underfunded, most people associate public
transport with inefficiency, poverty and bad government. But the disgust
This is from the guy that "proved" that more guns prevent crime. Olin
spends its money well:
"Public Schooling, Indoctrination, and Totalitarianism"
BY: JOHN R. LOTT, JR.
University of Chicago
Document: Available from the SSRN Electronic Paper Collection:
That's in the Snell Report (70s) too. GM was reimbursed to the tune of
$24M after WWII due to damage caused by the accidental allied bombing of
a GM-owned Luftwaffe plant. Other GM plants in Germany turning out war
material were purposefully unscathed. Lots of other nifty dirt.
Peter
Eugene
Wojtek Sokolowski wrote:
snip
If memory serves there was group in SF Bay area advocating "planned
congestion" and "market" (i.e. price) approach (increasing bridge tolls and
parking fees) to make cars less attractive for commuters - a very clever
way of using market ideology to fight
But what does "important" mean? Much of the debate has been over
productivity: people are looking for a Verdoorn's Law for computers.
But this may be the wrong issue. The importance of computers could
depend on their imposed and induced impact on social and economic
organization, quite apart
Snell is working on a book which includes the GM conspiracy -- he is interviewed
on camera in the film I've mentioned. But the book always seems to be coming
out soon. Sort of like the stuff I write.
I've heard (maybe here on PEN_L?) that the book now includes GM's
connections with the
See the documentary -- Taken for A Ride -- shown on PBS a couple of years ago.
There is an analogy in the disappearance of transit to the desire on the
part of many in the electric de-regulation battle -- to "get off the grid" and
away from the big bad monopolies. The grid is a community
There is an organization in Washington, D. C., the Surface Transportation
Policy Project that is the source that Audie Bock should reach. sorry, i
don't have a phone number. The federal highway money is now tied to provide a
small bit for transit. There are groups in the Bay Area that work on
they also kick the ecological/economic costs of making the machines onto the
public...
http://www.svtc.org/
ian
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Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 2:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
Audie Bock, the new Green Assembly representative from Cal. has a
question for us. She asked, about transit issues. She quotes: "I have
the impression that mass transit and highway planning are treated as two
separate and distinct issues. I believe that when planning our highways
in
At 04:13 PM 6/22/99 -0400, you wrote:
I would greatly appreciate it if someone could spend a few paragraphs to get
me on the way to understanding what the current ruling class economic
ideology is these days. I would hazard that Monetarism supply side
variants are relatively discredited, while
I don't doubt that these things are happening at least marginally, but does
this constitute a "revolution" similar in importance as the industrial
revolution in the 19th century or the corporate revolution in the 20th
century. If information is of economic value and the new technology allows
At 02:06 PM 6/22/99 -0700, you wrote:
I have a theory about the info-rev and the changing structure of firms.
I won't go into the reasons (too long), but the main points are:
1. Firms exist primarily to internalize and utilize nonprice
information.
They also internalize other external benefits
I am guilty as charged. It is my Harvard education. But I am talking about
California, not the Third World, so an American attitude is not entirely out of
place.
Your statement about Corbu was not accurate; he was very critical of suburban
sprawl and the American city.
As for the cost issue,
This is a fascinating and important question. I use the
transportation-housing-land use nexus as my main example of interaction
effects (nonconvexities) when I teach this stuff. The main problem with
the "economic feasibility" criterion is that incremental changes in the
transportation system
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At 10:35 AM 6/22/99 -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
Isn't there like zero popular support for mass transit in California? How
can you push a policy, however humane and rational, that no one wants?
Au contraire, in 1990 after the "Big Quake" (Loma Prieta 1989) there was a
proposition on the
Craven, Jim wrote:
BTW, I heard, but do not know, that for some time Summers did not deny
having written that memo and then later claimed he did not write it but it
was a memo of understanding to what was discussed and then the story changed
again to "I didn't write it and had nothing to do with
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Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 10:05 AM
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Subject: [PEN-L:8170] Re: Re: information revolution?
Rod Hay wrote:
The real question of "Info Revolution" is not wheither it generates an
accelerated growth
The real question of "Info Revolution" is not wheither it generates an
accelerated growth rate for a few years, but wheither it changes the
relations of production, or social relations. I think there is some evidence
in favour but that it is inconclusive. And certainly is something that can
At 07:13 AM 6/22/99 -0700, Brad DeLong wrote:
Audie Bock, the new Green Assembly representative from Cal. has a
question for us. She asked, about transit issues. She quotes: "I have
the impression that mass transit and highway planning are treated as two
separate and distinct issues. I believe
Urban and Transportation planning is my field. I was Chairman of the Graduate
Urban Design Program at UCLA from 1964-69, although I have since moved on to
international finance and economic policy analysis.
The artificial dichotomy between mass transit and highways is misleading.
Meaningful
from SLATE magazine's "today's papers" round-up (by Scott Shuger):
USA TODAY leads with a Commerce Dept. study coming out today concluding
that digital business companies are driving the nation's economic growth.
The study states that computer and communication hardware, software, and
services,
Audie Bock, the new Green Assembly representative from Cal. has a
question for us. She asked, about transit issues. She quotes: "I have
the impression that mass transit and highway planning are treated as two
separate and distinct issues. I believe that when planning our highways
in California
This is from Susan Fleck
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Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 11:11 PM
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Dear Friends,
The Union for Radical Political Economics is planning
its summer conference (Aug 21-24) this year.
By the way, in a neglected passage of the Summers/Pritchett memo, it says:
quote
What's new? Throughout the outline I struggle with the evidence showing
what exactly the proclaimed revolution [in production] has revolutionized.
FDI has always existed and many of the world's largest firms have
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