[PEN-L:8835] Re: racism

1999-07-03 Thread Henry C.K. Liu
Rod Hay wrote: > If the left sticks to the concept of the equality of races, once formal > equality (legal equality) is accomplished there is nothing left to do. The > race issue is dead as a political issue in the United States because the > formal battle is over. The left won. Legal racial eq

[PEN-L:8839] Yoshie's Law

1999-07-03 Thread Michael Perelman
Yoshie said that people are incapable of discussing racism on mailing lists. After cajoling a number of people to calm down on the subject who have complied, another group is now jumping in with a new round of name calling. Can the culprits stop this childing or do I have to start deleting peopl

[PEN-L:8838] Re: Re: Althusser

1999-07-03 Thread Carrol Cox
Rod Hay wrote: > I Althusser, anti-humanist > thought, his madness, and his stalinism. These is the most intellectually and morally disgusting words I have read on any maillist. Rod Hays is the third person to make it to my permanent delete list. Carrol

[PEN-L:8836] Re: Re: Re: Althusser

1999-07-03 Thread Carrol Cox
Michael Yates wrote: > Friends, > > I remember reading Althusser's autobiography. Things were proceeding > smoothly and then after 150 pages or so the prose just became > impenetrable to me. > > Every time I hear of Althusser, I have a hard time getting past the fact > that he murdered his wife.

[PEN-L:8830] Re: Althusser

1999-07-03 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Hi Doug: >Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > >>three cheers for Althusser > >What do you like about Althusser? Althusser paid attention to the parts of Marx that I like. I'm sympathetic to his anti-Hegelian, anti-Humanist polemical note. I don't like his essay on the ISA, however. Yoshie

[PEN-L:8829] Kant/Sade (was Marx and 19th century racism)

1999-07-03 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Ricardo wrote: >In fact, I would >argue that without Europe's intellectual legacy there would be no >*critical*, *reflective* means to challenge racism. But let's wait >and see what Yoshie says about the categorical imperative - although >I think she might do better recalling the rape of Nanking!

[PEN-L:8828] 'race is a stupid idea' (was Re: racism)

1999-07-03 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Rod wrote: >And >I would insist that children from an earlier age be indoctrinated with idea >that race is a stupid idea. Since Rod says he's a Canadian, maybe he's not quite in touch with the main ideological + practical current of American racism. Today, it is a very small minority of white Ame

[PEN-L:8837] Re: Re: racism

1999-07-03 Thread Jim Devine
I'll ignore what Rod says about Canada, since I really know nothing about the place (having been there only three times). I really should get out more often Bill answered him on that, but maybe there's a third perspective? He writes: >That said, my belief is (correct me if I am wrong) that a

[PEN-L:8834] Re: Re: racism

1999-07-03 Thread Bill Burgess
Rod wrote: >I never said there was no class segregation in Canada. The is in fact plenty >of it. My point was to suggest that race and class are more intertwined than Rod seems to think. >He does not have the studies at hand, because they do not exist. I will post >later a list of studies tha

[PEN-L:8833] racism

1999-07-03 Thread Rod Hay
Yoshie What your post tells me is that the left has been outmanoeuvered on the question of racism. I think that happened because they became stuck with a strategy that had produced so many victories in the 1960s, but eventually the limits of the concepts, and the poverty of the underlying phil

[PEN-L:8832] Re: Althusser

1999-07-03 Thread Rod Hay
I for one, think that there is a connection between Althusser, anti-humanist thought, his madness, and his stalinism. To psychologise a bit--His attempt to eradicate the subjective from this philosophy was an attempt to escape his own madness. His work is impentible because it is impossible to

[PEN-L:8826] NFL/Subsidies

1999-07-03 Thread Max B. Sawicky
rs FR: Greg LeRoy RE: Hyundai in Eugene The debate rages on in Eugene/Lane County over what to do about Hyundai's big tax breaks after a California jury found employment discrimination... http://www.register-guard.com/news/19990703/1a.hyundaifolo.0703.html Friday's first a

[PEN-L:8825] RE: US government budget surplus

1999-07-03 Thread Max B. Sawicky
The Post is what should be satirized for years of mindless babble about deficits, helping to give rise to the mindless reform of welfare and restraint on public investment. As Ellen noted, all the dirt is in the OMB's mid-session review and CBO reports, all of which are free on the web. I haven't

[PEN-L:8827] Re: racism

1999-07-03 Thread Rod Hay
Bill can rant all he wants but he is short on the facts. I never said there was no class segregation in Canada. The is in fact plenty of it. He does not have the studies at hand, because they do not exist. I will post later a list of studies that show that "race" has no significant effect on

[PEN-L:8824] Re:racism

1999-07-03 Thread Bill Burgess
I have to strongly disagree with Rod's claims about Canada. He wrote: >There is racism in Canada, but except for the native people there are is >little segregation. All the school districts receive comparable financing. >The private school system is very small. And believe it or not no economi

[PEN-L:8823] Re: McDonalds union

1999-07-03 Thread Bill Burgess
Almost a year ago I wrote about the successful union organizing effort at McDonalds in Squamish, B.C. The Canadian Auto Workers won a representation vote, pursued negotiations for a contract, and the CAW members at McDonalds voted to accept the $0.25 raise, grievance procedure and other basic poin

[PEN-L:8817] Fish workers Blocked Orissa Assembly

1999-07-03 Thread peoples
UPDATE FROM CHILIKA. About 25000 fishermen and women blockaded the main approach road to the Orissa state assembly house under the auspicious of Chilika Mastyajibi Mahasangha demanding immediate demolition of all prawn farms in Chilika lake. They demanded implementation of the supreme court jud

[PEN-L:8852] Re: Re: Althusser

1999-07-03 Thread Michael Yates
Friends, I only raised a question; I did not condemn Althusser. As to why he was sent to a hospital instead of to jail, well we could speculate on that, thoug I doubt it makes much differennce to his wife. michael yates Paul Zarembka wrote: > > On 07/03/99 at 10:00 PM, Progressive Economics <

[PEN-L:8822] Re: US government budget surplus

1999-07-03 Thread Ellen Frank
Jim - The economic projections are at the OMB website - click on mid-session review. One interesting thing to note is that, although Clinton claims paying down the debt will depress interest rates and unleash boundless growth, the OMB numbers assume that federal interst payment will rise, despite

Re: [PEN-L:8804] Re: punctuated equilibrium

1999-07-03 Thread John M. Legge
Gould is entertaining but not very rigorous. For a serious evolutionary model you must turn to Stuart Kauffman (e.g. Origins of Order). Kauffman introduces adaptive walks, the complexity catastrophe, and the evolutionary leap. All are endogenous. Paleontologically speaking, the dinosaurs' c

[PEN-L:8818] Re: re: racism

1999-07-03 Thread Henry C.K. Liu
Rod Hay wrote: > > Of course, racist acts should be opposed, at every opportunity by any onewho > observes them. But this is only a tactic in the fight, not a strategy for > victory. This is an indisputable statement. If this is a precondition, then the rest of your statements, though controve

[PEN-L:8821] Re: racism

1999-07-03 Thread Rod Hay
Original Message Follows Jim It is difficult for me to say much about affirmative action since it is a US programme of which I don't know the details. I also am not familiar with the economic situation for minority groups (except for some broad generalizations), or the educational situ

[PEN-L:8820] Re: re: racism

1999-07-03 Thread Jim Devine
> This is a dead end strategy [for ending racism] because the revaluation can easily be overthrown, because the economic base for the categories still exists. What is needed is a two prong attack. 1. A redistribution of income to those that are underprivileged. 2. A vigourous attack on the idea

[PEN-L:8819] US government budget surplus

1999-07-03 Thread Jim Devine
from SLATE, 7/3/99: >The [Washington Post] runs a hilarious editorial satirizing the (over-)confidence of federal budget forecasters, who recently predicted surpluses well into the next century. The Post applies "similar forecasting methods" to Richard Hamilton, the first-round draft pick of the