BTW, even though I really get a lot out of political discussions like the
above, I'd like to see more economics on pen-l. Or should I switch to
lbo-talk?
Jim Devine
I'm willing to drop the thread since noone else is posting on the matter
now, but surely the shortage of abortionists due to the
A follow up of my note last night in response to Anders' wake up call:
I got a note today from Robert McChesney concerning his new book. I
will send a copy of the notice shortly.
I also saw a notice about Christian Parenti's new book on the U.S. as a
police/prison state.
Mike Yates sent us a
(here's something I wrote to Max. I'm posting it because there's not enough
economics on pen-l.)
Max wrote:
Dear IWGVT:
You ought to think of getting someone to produce a longish paper along
the lines of "Value Theory for Idiots." Maybe "Value Theory for
Neo-Classical Economists." Something
Journal of Commerce, June 25, 1998
Trade bill embroils Senate in the Caucasus' problems; Measure would
authorize funds to all 8 former Soviet republics
BY MICHAEL S. LELYVELD
A bitter ethnic battle in the Caucasus spilled over into Congress this week
as U.S. corporate and oil interests won
Dear IWGVT:
You ought to think of getting someone to
produce a longish paper along the lines of
"Value Theory for Idiots." Maybe "Value
Theory for Neo-Classical Economists."
Something not designed to prove VT can
be as obscure or elegant as NC theory.
Ideally it would convey examples of the
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Vol. 3, Numbers 63 (#312)
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In light of recent Pen-L threads on urban questions, I'd would highly
recommend an excellent new book called *Lockdown America* by Christian
Parenti which I've just finished. It reminded me a lot of *City of
Quartz * by Mike Davis except it covers all of America and has a bit
different scope.
This is a reminder; apologies for those who have already received it.
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I haven't been following this thread,
so forgive me if this point has already
been raised, but a big cause of the anti-abortion
activism is the visiblility of "abortion clinics."
After the shootings a few years back at two
Boston abortion clinics, I asked a physician
acquaintance
Yoshie writes: I dare say this has to be at least as interesting +
important as value theory.
I wasn't saying that one thing (value theory) should replace the other
(issues, including economic ones, concerning abortion). Rather, I was
saying pen-l need more variety, including economic issues,
.. . .
How much was the abortion issue manufactured? By that I mean, how much did
organizations frame the question in such a way that dialogue would be
impossible in order to create the divisiveness associated with abortion?
.. . .
As lone as someone assigns an absolute right to either
the
How about a return to the classical name of the discipline as "political economy"
which is more holistic and dialectical thereby. Was the classical view more integrated
with "political science"?
The change of the name almost smells of a purposeful avoidance of the radicalism that
the classical
Gee who could have imagined my remark would provoke
anybody.
Point One: I responded to Professor Perelman's query,
which I took to mean how a dialogue might be had, or
why isn't there more dialogue. I don't think I suggested
we return to the 50's. Actually my favorite decade is
the 40's.
What Doug wrote was very interesting:
The abortion issue in the U.S. was defined around the
professionalization of medicine in the late 19th century: physicians
wanted to credentialize their line of work, and (female) abortionists
were a major target they defined themselves against. For most
Max S!
You are correct about 80% of the tax cuts going to 20%
of the people.
But Max, under bourgeois democracy the fix is already in!
We now get the usual 'bi-partisan" (for capital)
'negotiations' betwen the Democrats and the Republicans.
GOP says cut 800 billions --Liberals say 'too
Hi folks,
someone sent this notice of a 'hunger web site'..i said i thought it was a
fraud...hoax as it were...and i recall reading someone on the pen or lbo
list a while back stating sa muchcan anyone confirm (or refute) my
suspicion?
Thanks, Steve
Dear Friends:
Erin Starr passed
Max S!
You are correct about 80% of the tax cuts going to 20%
of the people.
Neil!!!
Thank you very much. It's not my number. It's from my friends
at Citizens for Tax Justice, yet another rotten petit-bourgeois
arm of the left wing of capital.
But Max, under bourgeois democracy the fix
Michael Perelman wrote:
But I want to go further. I recall that the "right to life" rhetoric began some
time well after Roe v. Wade.
If my memory serves it came as part of the general attack on all
progressive issues but on women in particular which followed the
defeat of ERA. It is an
Hi Geoff,
Yes, I'd very much like a copy of the below-mentioned supplement. Also, if
you still could send copies of the articles you have the students read (as
we discussed earlier), I'd greatly appreicate that too. Thanks a lot, Janet
At 04:22 PM 8/10/1999 -0400, you wrote:
Hey folks,
At 12:38 AM 8/13/99 -0700, Sam Pawlett wrote:
In light of recent Pen-L threads on urban questions, I'd would highly
recommend an excellent new book called *Lockdown America* by Christian
Parenti which I've just finished. It reminded me a lot of *City of
Quartz * by Mike Davis except it covers all
Ellen Frank wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I can't say I'm certain about
it. But how else to explain the concurrent erosion of
access and the apparent sway of pro-choice philosophy?
The cravenness of political "leadership" (as you so amusingly
term it)? The misogyny and cowardice
Ellen wrote:
The American medical profession
has historically opposed abortion. Thus,
American medical schools don't teach abortion,
American physicians don't perform abortions
(even when they are trained too, they send
women to the clinics). Physicians tell me that if
they performed
Max Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/13/99 01:30PM
.. . .
As long as someone assigns an absolute right to either
the fetus or the woman, then dialogue, if not impossible,
is reduced to I'm either right or wrong, or you either
agree with me or you don't. Most single-issue advocates
in this
BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, AUGUST 12, 1999
RELEASED TODAY: The U.S. Import Price Index increased 0.9 percent in July.
The increase was attributable to rising prices for petroleum imports.
Export prices were down 0.2 percent in July, the first decrease in the index
since March. ...
There
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've heard some people say the absolute right of women
should not even be opened for discussion. That makes for
very one-sided 'dialogue.'
And what is the alternative position here, Max? And don't
tell me about term limits, because that whole issue is a
red herring.
Jim,
Is this your way of getting on Michael's case for saying something nice
about Lou? Is it not possible to read Michael's note as being in
agreement with the tone of your "response"? Steve
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Craven, Jim wrote:
Michael Perelman wrote:
Louis Proyect's occasional
Michael Perelman wrote:
I think the key is to make sure that the economics relates to real life
problems. I have a different sort of abortion question. Abortion debates
have significantly weakened the left, bringing a good number of working
class people into the conservative fold.
In a time
Craven, Jim wrote:
What exactly are "strictly" economic subjects? I know what the
ultra-reductionist and linear neo-classicals mean by that, but I don't know
what "progressive" economists mean by that.
Good point, Jim. I think that the word, strictly, might not be appropriate. I
was
Yoshie wrote concerning abortion:
I dare say this has to be at least as interesting + important as value theory.
I think the key is to make sure that the economics relates to real life problems.
I have a different sort of abortion question. Abortion debates have significantly
weakened the
Michael Perelman wrote:
Louis Proyect's occasional reviews of books and culture offer a model of
another way of communicating. Although he does not cover strictly
economic subjects, I wish that I were able to convey the aura of new
materials to the list in such a way.
--
Michael Perelman
Yoshie writes:
In the case of anti-abortion activism, the boundary between speech and
action is especially thin and fluid (unlike in the case of pornography
debates). For instance, holding demos in front of doctors' private
residences; verbally abusing the children of the doctors; leaving
An Extraordinary New Book from the
University of Illinois Press
Publication date: October 4th
"If Thomas Paine were around, he would have written this book. If Paul
Revere were here, he would spread the word. Thank God we have in Robert
McChesney their equal in his love of liberty and his
Frank Durgin posted:
New York Times on Line
August 13, 1999
With Little Notice, U.S. Planes Have
Been Striking Iraq All Year
By STEVEN LEE MYERS
WASHINGTON -- It is the year's other war. While
the nation's attention has focused on Kosovo,
American warplanes have quietly, methodically and
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