[PEN-L:10248] BLS Daily Report

1999-08-20 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, AUGUST 19, 1999 RELEASED TODAY: In May 1999, there were 1,033 mass layoff actions by employers as measured by new filings for unemployment insurance benefits during the month. Each action involved at least 50 persons from a single establishment, and the number of

[PEN-L:10250] Fun Tax Facts

1999-08-20 Thread Max Sawicky
Win bar bets, embarrass reactionaries, impress your friends with: http://www.brookings.org/es/taxpolicy/facts.htm For instance, there is a table showing that for the bottom 60% of tax filers, average tax burdens from 1980 to 1999 have gone down (mostly after 1990). For the fourth quintile, the

[PEN-L:10252] FW: eco-racists plan protest of Makah Days and support of Gorton

1999-08-20 Thread Craven, Jim
-Original Message- From: arthur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 9:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: eco-racists plan protest of "Makah Days" and support of Gorton please post widely From AREAN-Tacoma, [EMAIL PROTECTED] PROTESTING

[PEN-L:10254] Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Ideology/consciousness andmaterial/social

1999-08-20 Thread Carrol Cox
Mathew Forstater wrote: I wasn't making a personal attack. Rod I think used the term vulgar himself, saying there was a value in vulgar materialism, by which we both meant I think somewhat mechanical or deterministic materialism or economic determinism. O.K. In any case my post was only

[PEN-L:10263] Re: Re: Where is pen-l?

1999-08-20 Thread Michael Perelman
Sadly, the only response I whipped up was a question about the need for a response. Let me give Carrol a specific example of what I had in mind. Korean workers in the Chaebol, at least as I understood the situation, had a degree of job security. Once the crisis hit, they lost the rights to jobs

[PEN-L:10265] Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Ideology/consciousness andmaterial/social

1999-08-20 Thread Charles Brown
I am a vulgar Marxist, goddamn it. Charles Brown Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/20/99 01:22PM Mathew Forstater wrote: I wasn't making a personal attack. Rod I think used the term vulgar himself, saying there was a value in vulgar materialism, by which we both meant I think somewhat

[PEN-L:10266] Fair Trade and Corporate Welfare

1999-08-20 Thread Interhemispheric Resource Center
>From Progressive Response By Tom Barry Corporate welfare for U.S. transnational corporations isn't a hot issue in the current budget fight on Capitol Hill. But it should be. Although budget reformers have largely ignored the issue, citizens opposing corporate welfare may find an unlikely ally in

[PEN-L:10269] RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Ideology/consciousnessandmaterial/social

1999-08-20 Thread Charles Brown
Sorry, I meant to say " I be a vulgar Marxist, motherfucker." CB "Lisa Ian Murray" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/20/99 05:53PM what a great t-shirt slogan ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Brown Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999

[PEN-L:10273] Re: Progress and Anti-biotics

1999-08-20 Thread Michael Perelman
Not just physicians. Its in the animal feed that agribusiness uses! Makes them grow faster. Carrol Cox wrote: On an outbreak of antibiotic resistant staph infections. http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/science/082099hth-outbreak.html One observation. Ordinary causal analysis of

[PEN-L:10271] Rumblings in Ecuador

1999-08-20 Thread Michael Perelman
The NY Times says that Ecuador might default. Maybe that will get someone interested in addressing economic issues. http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/financial/latin-econ.html -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chico, CA 95929

[PEN-L:10270] where is pen-l

1999-08-20 Thread neil
Nathan N, There are diseases created by nature and those created consciously by people/societies/governments . What is worse, a capitalist market driven social system dominating the planet with nation states a la the USA and others bent on world domination no matter the human cost, or GI's

[PEN-L:10269] RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Ideology/consciousnessandmaterial/social

1999-08-20 Thread kelley
chaz writes: Sorry, I meant to say " I be a vulgar Marxist, motherfucker." chaz! it's muthafuckah. look you have to hang out on the b=ball courts with the kids more often audi5000 snitgrrRl p.s., ajit, my use of "chaz" is long standing and a term of affection.

[PEN-L:10268] Re: Teleology was Re: Re: Is a Fetus an Appendix?

1999-08-20 Thread Sam Pawlett
Carrol Cox wrote: Sam, careful. You are implying a teleology to evolution. Even in strictly historical and social terms I see no evidence that "hopes ... of reproductive success" play any part in human affairs. Not consciously. The argument is genetic. SP

[PEN-L:10267] RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Ideology/consciousness andmaterial/social

1999-08-20 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
what a great t-shirt slogan ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Brown Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 12:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:10265] Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Ideology/consciousness andmaterial/social I

[PEN-L:10264] RE: Ideology/consciousness and material/social

1999-08-20 Thread Rod Hay
I don't want to go to a system of relations without causation because there is one causal relation that it is very important not to ignore--human purposeful activity, the will, human agency, etc. (what ever you want to call it) The political consequences are passivity, hopelessness, dispair.

[PEN-L:10262] New Urbanism (was Race....)

1999-08-20 Thread Louis Proyect
Dislando, where I live, may be first municipality in country to have an ordinance allowing residents to vote on whether or not they want to be designated a 'traditional neighorhood'...unsurprisingly, people who've lived in these areas longest are generally opposed because they understand that

[PEN-L:10261] Re: Where is pen-l?

1999-08-20 Thread Carrol Cox
Michael Perelman wrote: If the stock market crashed today or if a major U.S. bank went under, pen-l would buzz with activity. So too would virtually every other list. I would think that our purpose would be to lay the groundwork so that when a crisis would break out, we would be

[PEN-L:10259] Another Clinton Attack on Freedom

1999-08-20 Thread Michael Perelman
JUSTICE SEEKS WIDER ACCESS TO COMPUTER DATA The Justice Department wants to broaden rules for allowing law enforcement officials to secretly enter suspects' homes or offices and disable security on PCs in advance of administering a wiretap or conducting a further search. An Aug. 4 memo says that

[PEN-L:10258] Re: New Urbanism (was Race....)

1999-08-20 Thread Michael Hoover
Coming back to the topic of gentrification, I think that the current interest in 'urbanity' among city planner-types isn't likely to bring back public spaces + microstructural ties of the kind you're talking about above. They seem more interested in a kind of theme-park simulation of

[PEN-L:10257] UN Taking Blame for Kosovo

1999-08-20 Thread Interhemispheric Resource Center
Excerpted from: www.foreignpolicy-infocus.org/progresp/vol3/prog3n29.html The Progressive Response 18 August 1999 Vol. 3, No. 29 *** SETTING UP THE UN TO TAKE THE BLAME IN KOSOVO *** (Editor's note: Recent statements by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Henry Shelton and

[PEN-L:10256] Re: Where is pen-l?

1999-08-20 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Michael Perelman wrote: In violation of what I just wrote, I have one brief question -- not wanting to reignite the thread -- why hasn't the women's movement with its belief in one's right to control one's body spoken up about the manditory innoculations by the military, in particular, the

[PEN-L:10255] Where is pen-l?

1999-08-20 Thread Michael Perelman
If the stock market crashed today or if a major U.S. bank went under, pen-l would buzz with activity. So too would virtually every other list. I would think that our purpose would be to lay the groundwork so that when a crisis would break out, we would be prepared. We have discussed abortion,

[PEN-L:10253] Teleology was Re: Re: Is a Fetus an Appendix?

1999-08-20 Thread Carrol Cox
Sam Pawlett wrote: Yes, humans spend a lot of time--a great deal more than most animals-- in raising and rearing the young in hopes time invested now will pay off later in terms of reproductive success. Sam, careful. You are implying a teleology to evolution. Even in strictly historical

[PEN-L:10251] Re: Re: Re: RE: Ideology/consciousness and material/social

1999-08-20 Thread Mathew Forstater
I wasn't making a personal attack. Rod I think used the term vulgar himself, saying there was a value in vulgar materialism, by which we both meant I think somewhat mechanical or deterministic materialism or economic determinism. I should use mechanical. In any case, Rod can let me know if I

[PEN-L:10249] Re: RE: Ideology/consciousness and material/social

1999-08-20 Thread Mathew Forstater
Rod- I prefer not to use the word sophisticated I guess. In any case, I engage in the conversation with you with an open mind, although I suppose I believe the views to which I adhere better assist me in understanding (and changing) social phenomena, or else I wouldn't adhere to them! At the end

[PEN-L:10247] Re: The Internet Anti-Fascist: Friday, 20 Aug1999 -- 3:66 (#319)

1999-08-20 Thread Louis Proyect
NEW YORK -- The massacre by the Nazis of hundreds of thousands of people known in Europe as Gypsies is a little known fact of World War II. The lack of public awareness is shared by the Gypsies, who now ask to be called Roma: They themselves are coming to realize the tragedy only now. Check "The

[PEN-L:10246] The Internet Anti-Fascist: Friday, 20 Aug 1999 -- 3:66 (#319)

1999-08-20 Thread Paul Kneisel
__ The Internet Anti-Fascist: Friday, 20 August 1999 Vol. 3, Numbers 66 (#319) _ THREATS DOG FAMILY OF VICTIM

[PEN-L:10244] [Fwd: LAT: Concerns Grow About U.S. Military Aid to Colombia]

1999-08-20 Thread Sam Pawlett
[NOTE: In what I think is a first, this article quotes a Pentagon spokesman admitting --on the record-- that American personnel are, in fact, fighting "in the field!" These are not "DEA agents", however. They are "special operations." -DG]

[PEN-L:10245] [Fwd: IPS: Paramilitaries Massacre Supposed Rebel Allies]

1999-08-20 Thread Sam Pawlett
la guerra sucia = The attacks, attributed by witnesses to the right-wing Autodefensas Unidas de Colombia (AUC), have taken place in the northern

[PEN-L:10243] Re: Re: Is a Fetus an Appendix?

1999-08-20 Thread Ajit Sinha
Sam Pawlett wrote: Ajit Sinha wrote: Do you think animals have rights or not? No. I don't like rights-based theories at all--they have intractable problems-- but in some cases ,like abortion, talk about "rights" makes the conversation a lot easier. Most political philosophies, even

[PEN-L:10242] Re: Re: Body as Self-Property, Not Commodity

1999-08-20 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Michael Hoover wrote: haven't read 1995 Petchesky that you cite and its been awhile since I read _Abortion and Woman's Choice_, but if memory serves, she criticizes negative freedom (individual right to privacy) because there is no state obligation to facilitate reproductive rights and because it

[PEN-L:10241] Re: RE: Ideology/consciousness and material/social

1999-08-20 Thread Ajit Sinha
Rod Hay wrote: Abandoning some distinctions, between material and ideal causation, between the human and the natural world, etc. leaves us with an indeterminate system. In a world were anything goes. We have no grounds upon which to make any distinctions. __ But why we