Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: U.S. Monetary Policy

2000-03-22 Thread Ellen Frank
Forgive me for being a bit dense. I haven't kept up with this literature, but the idea that there is no market for loanable funds seems to fly in the face of the evidence. I mean someone issued all those corporate bonds and took out all those CI loans, right? There is, I know, a lot of

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: U.S. Monetary Policy

2000-03-22 Thread Ellen Frank
Yes, I understand that central banks prefer to operate in bills and that this means the short market is subject to different forces. But what I'm asking is, aren't these market connected via the responses of financial players? Right now, for example, a 6-month commercial bill is paying

lessons on monetary policy

2000-03-22 Thread michael
Thanks to all for the valuable lessons on monetary policy. Keep it coming. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: kBureaucracy, et centera, was Re: CP's Anti-Racist Discipline

2000-03-22 Thread Jim Devine
I wrote: The question is "who guards the guardians?" (to paraphase Plato). I'm not against bureaucracy if it's subject to democratic control from below. But bureaucracy can become literally bureaucratic, i.e., rule by bureaus, where Carrol writes: Plato was ingenuous -- he *knew* who

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: U.S. Monetary Policy

2000-03-22 Thread Jim Devine
At 11:34 PM 3/21/00 -0800, you wrote: Jim Devine wrote: The Fed is driving up (and tomorrow probably will drive up) short rates while the Treasury is driving down long rates. However, as Ellen notes, there are real limits to this. The Treasury probably has $220 billion to spend on long

RE: Re: kBureaucracy, et centera, was Re: CP's Anti-Racist Discipline

2000-03-22 Thread Fleck_S
Elliot Abrams. Susan -- From: Jim Devine BIG SNIP Some of their people ended up involved in the Reagan administration, as part of the war against Nicaragua and in Iran-Contra. I'm trying to remember the name of the lying bastard assistant secretary of state who was

Re: Re: Tom Dickens on Monetary Policy

2000-03-22 Thread Jim Devine
Paul A Have a feeling the "limits of financial policy" issue is likely to be a key policy debate in an upcoming crunch? it's clear that monetary policy has its limits, since Greenspan has been failing to slow the economy down for months now. If the US has anything close to the Bubble Economy

Re: Re: kBureaucracy, et centera, was Re: CP's Anti-Racist Discipline

2000-03-22 Thread Mathew Forstater
Abrams? I know thew one you're talking about, a truly repulsive guy who is also related to one of the National Review or New Republic conservative media families, I think. I'm trying to remember the name of the lying bastard assistant secretary of state who was so prominent in those hearings.

Re: Re: Re: kBureaucracy, et centera, was Re: CP's Anti-Racist Discipline

2000-03-22 Thread Joel Blau
The magazine linneage goes back more to Commentary, because I think he is the son-in-law of Norman Podhoretz and Midge Decter. Joel Blau Mathew Forstater wrote: Abrams? I know thew one you're talking about, a truly repulsive guy who is also related to one of the National Review or New Republic

Re: Re: Re: Re: kBureaucracy, et centera, was Re: CP's Anti-Racist Discipline

2000-03-22 Thread Mathew Forstater
right, that must be it. he also wrote a book after iran-contra in which he tried to (surpise, surpise) justify everything he did. -Original Message-From: Joel Blau [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 11:32 AMSubject:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: kBureaucracy, et centera, was Re: CP's Anti-Racist Discipline

2000-03-22 Thread Mathew Forstater
but what do they have to do with the SD part, doesn't that stand for social democrats? are they former social dems who became neocons, or is it just another one of these cases where words don't mean what they usually do?? -Original Message- From: Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

The Internet Anti-Fascist: Tuesday, 21 Mar 2000 -- 4:24 (#405)

2000-03-22 Thread Paul Kneisel
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Re: Re: Re: kBureaucracy, et centera, was Re: CP'sAnti-Racist Discipline

2000-03-22 Thread Doug Henwood
Mathew Forstater wrote: Abrams? I know thew one you're talking about, a truly repulsive guy who is also related to one of the National Review or New Republic conservative media families, I think. Elliott Abrams went to Little Red, the Commie primary/secondary school in New York. Doug

Re: Re: Marx and Kapital

2000-03-22 Thread Charles Brown
Chang is an internationalist. We are all Chang. CB Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/21/00 05:53PM Charles Brown wrote: GDP is used to hoodwink the people. Did Chang move to Detroit? Doug

Abrams

2000-03-22 Thread Michael Perelman
He was also the point man in the war on Nicaragua, as Asst. Sec. of State for Latin America. Lied to Congress and should have been indicted. Mathew Forstater wrote: right, that must be it. he also wrote a book after iran-contra in which he tried to (surpise, surpise) justify everything he did.

Re: Re: Re: Marx and Kapital

2000-03-22 Thread Stephen E Philion
yes, chang thinks we all, whether Chinese, American, African,...should not fear unemployment and ditching state investment in industry... Steve On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Charles Brown wrote: Chang is an internationalist. We are all Chang. CB Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/21/00 05:53PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: U.S. Monetary Policy

2000-03-22 Thread Edwin Dickens
Hi Ellen, It's me that's dense for not being clear that I'm not defending Operation Twist. I'm just saying that it provides the best historical precedent for current monetary policy. That there is no market for loanable funds does not fly in the face of the evidence, just in the face of the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: U.S. Monetary Policy

2000-03-22 Thread Edwin Dickens
Ellen Frank wrote: snip ...aren't these market connected via the responses of financial players? I should hope so. Isn't everything connected to everything else in an advanced capitalist economy? But the point of theory is to abstract from some connections in order to emphasize others as

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: U.S. Monetary Policy

2000-03-22 Thread Edwin Dickens
Jim Devine wrote: is this a lot or a little? Tom, I must admit I find your comments on this issue to be a bit obscure. Sorry. I prefer to think that it's the issues that are obscure, but maybe it's just me. $220 billion is a lot. For example, as an alternative to loanable funds theory or

Re: Re: Re: Tom Dickens on Monetary Policy

2000-03-22 Thread Edwin Dickens
Jim Devine wrote: Paul A Have a feeling the "limits of financial policy" issue is likely to be a key policy debate in an upcoming crunch? it's clear that monetary policy has its limits, since Greenspan has been failing to slow the economy down for months now. The problem is that the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Tom Dickens on Monetary Policy

2000-03-22 Thread Edwin Dickens
Jim Devine wrote: it's clear that monetary policy has its limits, since Greenspan has been failing to slow the economy down for months now. The major econometric models predict that a 25 basis point increase in the Federal funds rate will decrease the rate of growth of GDP by one-tenth of a

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: kBureaucracy, et centera, wasRe: CP's ...

2000-03-22 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 00-03-22 13:34:56 EST, you write: but what do they have to do with the SD part, doesn't that stand for social democrats? are they former social dems who became neocons, or is it just another one of these cases where words don't mean what they usually do?? People might

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: U.S. MonetaryPolicy

2000-03-22 Thread Doug Henwood
Edwin Dickens wrote: Either a new consensus forecast for interest rates will form or the Fed will begin to lose its sacred "credibility." Or the Fed will have to tighten more than it would have otherwise to achieve the desired dampening effect on stocks the real economy. Doug PS: Love all

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: U.S. MonetaryPolicy

2000-03-22 Thread Edwin Dickens
Presumably by "tighten more" you mean abandoning the 25-basis-point increases in the Federal funds rate and the discount rate at each FOMC meeting, for 50-basis point increases at meetings or even increases between meetings? At this point, without spikes in the price indexes to justify such a

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: U.S.Monetary Policy

2000-03-22 Thread Doug Henwood
Edwin Dickens wrote: Presumably by "tighten more" you mean abandoning the 25-basis-point increases in the Federal funds rate and the discount rate at each FOMC meeting, for 50-basis point increases at meetings or even increases between meetings? At this point, without spikes in the price