On the day of his inauguration as Mayor of London, Livingstone played the
populist card by claiming that every Londoner, man, woman, and child, pays
£50 a week in subsidy to other parts of the country.
This amounts to over £19 billion per year.
Livingstone is good at popularising statistics
Doug Henwood wrote:
Mark, when you first brought this up a year or two ago, I made a
point of tracking down interviewing some oil "experts." All, except
your pals at Petroconsultants in Geneva, think this point of view is
hogwash.
Doug, I sometimes track down experts who are knowledgeable
Early liberal version of the abortion debate. Note the emphasis on 1)
family planning 2) availability of abortion to _married_ women 3) legal
and open to all women, but advisable in the case of rape, incest, etc..
even the liberal view of abortion has a religious connotation, it
seems...
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Well, there is much more to be said but this missive is already too long.
Let me just conclude by saying that we will succumb to either petroleum
shortage or global warming, that the minimal proposals to offset this will
not work, that population growth will doom the species if we dont do
NY Times, July 4, 2000
ESSAY
Lost Rivets and Threads, and Ecosystems Pulled Apart
By WILLIAM K. STEVENS
In trying to illuminate what humans are doing to the natural environment,
scientists and conservationists over the years have come up with a number
of descriptive images. One of the best
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There can be no logical doubt that a finite resource will ultimately run
out, the quicker the exponential increase in use occurs. (Doug seems to
be somewhat illogical on this issue.) I.e. oil/petroleum will ultimately run
out. So are we merely debating when, not if?
Of
Mine Aysen Doyran quoted:
ssue 223 of SOCIALIST REVIEW Published October 1998 Copyright ©
Socialist Review
The collapse of capitalism
Hmm, guess things didn't quite work out as predicted. Maybe next year.
Long term, the rates of profit have been falling since the
It is not quite true that the so-called US Labor Party has no candidiates-
It does--99% Democrats! This LP is no labor independence from capitals
parties
at all. It is financed 95% by the AFL trade unions and they are recruiting
sergeants for
the campaign of Gore % Co. (differences on NAFTA,
Louis Proyect wrote:
It is amazing how many analogies there were
between this debate and much of the debate taking place on the left today.
What very much interests me is the parallel analogy between the predicament
of US hegemony today and that which british imperialism found itself in
then.
neil wrote:
It is not quite true that the so-called US Labor Party has no candidiates-
It does--99% Democrats! This LP is no labor independence from capitals
parties
at all. It is financed 95% by the AFL trade unions and they are recruiting
sergeants for
the campaign of Gore % Co.
Doug Henwood wrote:
I went to the trouble of seeing how long it
would take to run down existing reserves as present rates of
consumption growth. (It amazes me sometimes how left discourse so
frequently requires one to rehearse, even pay ritual homage to, the
obvious.) I've also said several
Mark Jones wrote:
What is it with you guys and the Wall Street Journal?
It's a daily newspaper for the U.S. business class, which, despite
its prejudices (which the WSJ indulges for them on its edit page),
wants to be well informed. I've always found it to be intelligent,
well-written, and
Perhaps people might have some comments on this stuff.
Cheers, Ken Hanly:
P.S. Don't we get a report on Cuba from Paul Phillips?
Re-embedding the Economy into Society and Society into the
Biosphere
We have entered a period of systemic breakdowns. That is
evident from the
turbulences
This is interesting. However it seems that if we burn fossil fuels then we are
contributing to global warming but if we suppress natural fires we are
disturbing ecosystems. It is OK for Mama Nature to contribute huge amounts of
carbon dioxide to the atmosphere but not us.
Isn't this a double
World Socialist WS
Wall Street hails signs of downturn in US
economy
By Jerry White
9 June 2000
Use this version to print
A series of recently released reports points to a
sharp slowdown
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Socialist Review
The collapse of capitalism
In the last few weeks a real sense of panic has gripped many politicians
and journalists about what is happpening to the
economy. Are their fears justified
Al-Ahram Weekly
29 June - 5 July
2000
Issue No. 488
Magic thought and wishful thinking
By Edward Said
Shortly after south Lebanon was liberated and
Date:
Jun 13 2000 16:42:14 EDT
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MidEast movies Human Rights Festival
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Jim Devine wrote:
Re-embedding the Economy into Society and Society into the
Biosphere
William Krehm
Chairman
Committee on Monetary and Economic Reform
Publisher-Editor
Economic Reform
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who is this character?
Krehm COMER are Canadian equivalents of
Doug is certainly right that projections of the time at which oil or coal will
run out at present rates of consumption are only part of the story since new
reserves will be found meanwhile. But if Mark is correct the number of reserves
found are unlikely to stave off the inevitable for all that
"neil":
The LP acts as a political filter to keep escaping workers from fleeing
the Democrats
deceit and lies and building an anti-capitalist movement
Whenever I read stuff like this, I am drawn back to Trotsky's description
of the July Days, when Bolsheviks went out in the streets to try
Doug Henwood wrote:
Why, what do you have against it? [the Wall St Jnl]
190bn bbls of non-existent Caspian crude, for one thing.
Encouraging credulousness for another.
closet neo-classicals will find this appealing...
Mine
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Subject: the discrete charme of global keynesianism
The organization ATTAC (originating in France
http://www.tnr.com/041700/stiglitz041700.html
What I learned at the world economic crisis.
The Insider
By JOSEPH STIGLITZ
Issue date: 04.17.00
Post date: 04.06.00
(Copyright 2000, The New Republic)
Next week's meeting of the International Monetary Fund will bring to
Washington, D.C.,
I cannot see that these items are either discrete or indiscrete. The June
events in London last year owed their strength to the combination of
well-informed, sometimes reformist researchers, with a variety of
direct-action, sometimes anarchist, activists. Seattle showed the same formula.
It
Eh? Look at the map of North America. Unlike Siberia we have no northern cities.
All our significant cities are close to the US. Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal,
Winnipeg. Edmonton is about the most northern and it is not all that far from
the border. The far north is the domain of the Inuit. There
It is true that Keynesianism was severely hit as a national strategy by
the
circumstances of the 70's and 80's when the rich social democratic
governments of the west were under economic attack from newly developing
countries. But that does not mean that Keynesian (or for Doug's sake,
point of information on the Greens-Mexico ;
The Greens Party of Mexico have also been practicing their brand of
'pragmatism'
(in politics a very bourgeois method of their dirty work) .
Oh yes, true, they were opposed to the corrupt PRI bandits --but their
pro-capitalist opposition
put them
After some work I managed to aquire this
interview with Stiglitz that leaves Summers naked.
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The burghers of Wall St stand
accused
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FEATURES
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/jun2000/bank-j10.shtml
Bank report points to financial storms
By Nick Beams
10 June 2000
Use this version to print
A reading of the latest annual report of the Bank
for
Regarding Ken's assumption that higher prices will bring new energy forms on line,
the first effect will be to open up fragile ecosystems to oil drilling, causing more
problems elsewhere.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
Why would not both happen simultaneously? And why do you assume that the drilling would
be on fragile ecosystems? It would make extraction from large but low grade deposits
such as the Alberta Tar Sands more economical and injection etc. that recovers more oil
from wells that are running out.
Doug Henwood wrote:
Hmm, guess things didn't quite work out as predicted. Maybe next year.
Doug
People who don't want to see the *crisis* of capitalism are by definition
unwilling to see the social and human *costs* of capitalism. They want to
see capitalism _saved_ not _abolished_.
btw,
In the U.S., the oil industry is hungering after the California coast and Alaska.
Ken Hanly wrote:
Why would not both happen simultaneously? And why do you assume that the drilling
would
be on fragile ecosystems? It would make extraction from large but low grade deposits
such as the Alberta
I see that a good number of posts are articles from elsewhere --
especially from Mine. What do the rest of you think about this
material? I know that some people unsub because of the volume.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
I think Neil's analogy was appropriate. What is your point anyway?
Mine
What kind of analogy was yours anyway ? Comparing the AFL's Labor fakers
Party corral
in 2000 to the Bolsheviks clever mass tactics of 1917? On July 4, a lot
of people do get tanked up.
So we'll forgive you
So let's not post articles, Michael
Mine
Michael Perelman wrote:
I see that a good number of posts are articles from elsewhere --
especially from Mine. What do the rest of you think about this
material? I know that some people unsub because of the volume.
--
Michael Perelman
I find some useful; some not. I just wanted to get a feel for what
others thought.
Mine Aysen Doyran wrote:
So let's not post articles, Michael
--
Mine Aysen Doyran
PhD Student
Department of Political Science
SUNY at Albany
Nelson A. Rockefeller College
135 Western Ave.; Milne 102
The Observer
Sunday July 2, 2000
Get out of our backyard, Uncle Sam
The threat to British sovereignty comes not from
Brussels but from
power-seeking tendencies on the other side of the
Atlantic
By Will Hutton
We all have favourites. At the moment, mine are
I think part of the problem is that they are unreadable. When you copy and
paste from a website into your mailer, you inevitably end up with the
"spillover" phenomenon which is not so bad with e.e. cummings but
impossible with some economic analysis. My suggestion is to limit people to
one such
Lou's suggestion sound reasonable.
I think part of the problem is that they are unreadable. When you copy and
paste from a website into your mailer, you inevitably end up with the
"spillover" phenomenon which is not so bad with e.e. cummings but
impossible with some economic analysis. My
Could you post some data on population loss of cities such as Archangelsk,
Novosibirsk, Yakutsk and Vladivostok etc.? I know there are all sorts of
problems throughout Russia but most seem to be caused by the abolition
of actually existing socialism by actually existing chaos. However I thought
Note that it is the US not the WTO that imposes sanctions. It is the US
not the WTO that brought the charges before the WTO tribunal that not accepting
hormone-fed beef violates
WTO agreements. National governments created the WTO and without them
it is toothless. Why do people such as Tony
Some of the material I find interesting but other stuff I delete. I even
forward some articles to a person who in turns forwards to other interested
groups and also to a collective to which I belong. Louis is right about the
formatting. My system has a "copy as quotation function on it". If I
Although I have almost no use for New Yorker Magazine on a week-to-week
basis, but the latest issue is a must read. It has an absolutely riveting
piece by Calvin Trillin on a couple who got caught in an insider trading
scheme. What's remarkable is his perceptive analysis of the mores and
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