RE: Re: Pomotismo

2000-09-02 Thread Nicole Seibert
Ha. Ha. Only it doesn't look I will be getting any pomo anytime soon except what I can get out of Harvey and Baudrillard laying around the house. Out. -Nico -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Yoshie Furuhashi Sent: Friday, September

Downfall of an economic experiment: New Zealand

2000-09-02 Thread Bill Rosenberg
Financial Times ; 30-Aug-2000 Downfall of an economic experiment: New Zealand's textbook programme of liberalisation has left it poorer than before, argues John Kay: By JOHN KAY If ever a country has been run by economists, it is New Zealand. In 1984, the colourful Roger Douglas became finance

RE: Pomotismo

2000-09-02 Thread Nicole Seibert
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Yoshie Furuhashi Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 10:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Pomotismo From Justin to Nicole: I find your objection to essentialsim and foundationalsim

A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, advertising and the Internet)

2000-09-02 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relaciĆ³n a [PEN-L:1109] Random thoughts on Big Brother, adve, el 1 Sep 00, a las 10:56, Louis Proyect dijo: This is what our life has become in these best of times. Big brother in the workplace, commercials everywhere you look and war in the hinterlands. The ad smallpox has been

[Fwd: post-autistic economics newsletter, No.1 (fwd)]

2000-09-02 Thread Carrol Cox
Original Message Subject: post-autistic economics newsletter, No.1 (fwd) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 22:45:03 +0100 (BST) From: "I. Robeyns" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just received this e-mail -- perhaps at last some optimistic signs for

Re: Re: Pomotismo

2000-09-02 Thread Ken Hanly
How is the truth that 2 plus 2 is 4 individual, or that Yoshie sent the reply below, or that Ottawa is the capital of Canada, or millions of other commonplace truths? That "the truth" is individual seems to imply that there is something called "the truth" which is individual. Is this oxymoronic

Re: [Fwd: post-autistic economics newsletter, No.1(fwd)]

2000-09-02 Thread Doyle Saylor
Howdie, This was a very interesting posting on two levels. One level I reject, that is the metaphorical use of the disability terms to characterize the arguments against the mathematical orientation of contemporary economics in the U.S. and Western Europe. The second part I agree with is

[Fwd: Re: post-autistic economics newsletter, No.1]

2000-09-02 Thread Carrol Cox
Apparently some people on the femecon-l and IAFFE lists have also, like Doyle, resented the slurs in the economics newsletter on those suffering from disability. It is of some interest that such a large proportion of our vocabulary of abuse depends (or has depended) upon the oppression of racial

Re: [Fwd: Re: post-autistic economics newsletter, No.1]

2000-09-02 Thread Max Sawicky
Not this is a mission I can support enthusiastically. Progressive malediction. I guess we could liken things we don't like to animal, vegetable, and mineral, though who knows what controversies those would raise. One recalls the ancient controversy about the classist use of the term "pig" to

Re: Re: [Fwd: Re: post-autistic economics newsletter, No.1]

2000-09-02 Thread Carrol Cox
Max Sawicky wrote: One recalls the ancient controversy about the classist use of the term "pig" to describe police officers. Yes. An Iowa hog farmer wrote to New Left Notes defending his animals against comparison to the police. But until hogs, spiders, vipers, toads, etc. learn to read I

Re: Re: Re: [Fwd: Re: post-autistic economics newsletter, No.1]

2000-09-02 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relaciĆ³n a [PEN-L:1156] Re: Re: [Fwd: Re: post-autistic econ, el 2 Sep 00, a las 11:32, Carrol Cox dijo: Max Sawicky wrote: One recalls the ancient controversy about the classist use of the term "pig" to describe police officers. Yes. An Iowa hog farmer wrote to New Left

Re: Re: Econ texts - possible to teach Marxseriously?

2000-09-02 Thread Doug Henwood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brad wrote, You look at countries over time, and the principal changes in real wages and standards of living are differences in aggregate productivity levels--not differences in the distribution of the product between land, labor, and capital. Sticking to the US

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pomotismo

2000-09-02 Thread Doug Henwood
Brad DeLong wrote: I think people who comment on "pomos" should show some evidence of having read some, and should cite actual texts to make their points instead of impressions. But maybe I'm just being a stick-in-the-mud. Doug No, but you are being pre-post-modernist. Imposing the grid of

post-autistic economics

2000-09-02 Thread Jim Devine
FRANCE The French economics mainstream is in a state of shock and apprehension following dramatic and unexpected events late in June. On the 21st the influential Paris daily, Le Monde, featured a long article under the headline "Economics Students Denounce the Lack of Pluralism in the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pomotismo

2000-09-02 Thread Carrol Cox
Doug Henwood wrote: Carrol Cox wrote: I agree. Butler's almost habitual failure to observe this elementary decency is the reason that I finally decided that she was a fraud. I have made this complaint about her frequently (in specific reference to her article in NLR) on several different

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pomotismo

2000-09-02 Thread Doug Henwood
Carrol Cox wrote: Butler merely shows here that she is consistently a fraud Why can't you just say you disagree with her? Why must you repeat this nasty characterization? You're doing exactly what she was rightly complaining about, collapsing a complex body of scholarship into a symptom - or

poll

2000-09-02 Thread Doug Henwood
Apropos Carrol's assertions, I'm curious how many PEN-Lers think matters of sex/gender, sexuality, and cultural representation are topics of analysis and struggle equal in importance to those of class and political economy. If they are equal in importance, why do so few PEN-Lers write about

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pomotismo

2000-09-02 Thread Carrol Cox
Doug Henwood wrote: Carrol Cox wrote: Butler merely shows here that she is consistently a fraud Why can't you just say you disagree with her? Why must you repeat this nasty characterization? Because I'm more sure she is a fraud than that I disagree with her. I am using as my criterion

Re: poll

2000-09-02 Thread Carrol Cox
Doug Henwood wrote: If they are equal in importance, why do so few PEN-Lers write about them? That is not a correct way to word the question. It resembles the following nonsense question: Are the denominator and numerator of a fraction of equal importance or is one more important than the

Re: Re: poll

2000-09-02 Thread Doug Henwood
Carrol Cox wrote: Doug Henwood wrote: If they are equal in importance, why do so few PEN-Lers write about them? That is not a correct way to word the question. It resembles the following nonsense question: Are the denominator and numerator of a fraction of equal importance or is one more

Re: poll

2000-09-02 Thread Jim Devine
Doug writes: Apropos Carrol's assertions, I'm curious how many PEN-Lers think matters of sex/gender, sexuality, and cultural representation are topics of analysis and struggle equal in importance to those of class and political economy. I don't think that this question is nonsense. I'd say

Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Randomthoughts on Big Brother, advertising and the Internet)

2000-09-02 Thread Brad De Long
The ad smallpox has been particularly notorious (and nefarious) in Buenos Aires since the late 1980s and (I suspect) in most large Third World capitals. Starved to death, for example, the local city administration (Intendencia de Buenos Aires, now pompously and reactionarily known as Gobierno de

Re: Re: Econ texts - possible to teach Marxseriously?

2000-09-02 Thread Brad De Long
Brad, the Cliff Notes statement was wrong, but I thought that you jumped it up a couple of notches. True. Apologies...

Re: Re: Re: poll

2000-09-02 Thread Stephen E Philion
On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Doug Henwood wrote: Carrol Cox wrote: Doug Henwood wrote: Let me add to the polling question. Monthly Review is probably the leading English-language popular Marxist journal in the world. New Left Review, despite its recent ideological peregrinations, is one of the

Re: poll

2000-09-02 Thread Michael Perelman
I wonder if the question should not be posed differently. I think that there is a tendency among people to treat matters of oppression with respect to sex and gender in a way that divides people. At times, some people who write in this area tend to minimize other forms of oppression -- sort of

Re: poll

2000-09-02 Thread Carrol Cox
Doug Henwood wrote: Carrol Cox wrote: Doug Henwood wrote: If they are equal in importance, why do so few PEN-Lers write about them? That is not a correct way to word the question. It resembles the following nonsense question: Are the denominator and numerator of a fraction of

Re: Re: poll

2000-09-02 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: I believe that most pen-lers are men. And men don't have gender? Doug

Re: Re: Re: poll

2000-09-02 Thread Jim Devine
At 07:09 PM 09/02/2000 -0400, you wrote: Jim Devine wrote: I believe that most pen-lers are men. And men don't have gender? of course we do, but since we're usually in the advantaged position in the gender game, it's less of a concern. Further, the gender issues seem to get into personal

Re: Pomotismo

2000-09-02 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/01/00 10:25PM My response is 1) the truth is individual, 2) objectivity is impossible (including in the argument I just created) and 3) accepting our "man-made" god means accepting ourselves and trusting in our own magic. Why do academic work at all: 1) because it is

The UN and Big Business

2000-09-02 Thread Michael Perelman
The Guardian (London) August 31, 2000 Getting into bed with big business; The Un Is No Longer Just A Joke. It Is Becoming The Villain Of The Piece Pity the UN, for it is not powerful enough even to be hated. While other global bodies are widely reviled, the

Dark Days

2000-09-02 Thread Louis Proyect
In recent years, many regional theaters in the United States have staged Maxim Gorky's "The Lower Depths", a play that revolves around the lives of the dregs of society in a flophouse in Czarist Russia, with homeless people in the leading roles. Such productions were meant as a commentary on the