At 12:07 PM 10/20/00 -0400, you wrote:
The other tendency represented by Engerman and Fogel is to characterize the
slavocracy as capitalist, but using neoclassical economics rather than
Marxism.
If I remember correctly, Fogel was an old Leftist (CP?), while Engerman was
a new Leftist,
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Robert Brenner says in "The Origin of Capitalist Development: a
Critique of Neo-Smithian Marxism," _New Left Review_ (July-August
1977):
* I shall argue here that the _method_ of an entire line of
writers in the Marxist tradition has led them
in today's (Oct. 22, 2000's) L.A. TIMES MAGAZINE, there's an article that
argues that though "hate crimes" legislation was well-intentioned, in
practice it simply ends up piling extra jail time on poor defendants (often
minority-group members) who can't afford to defend themselves very well in
Some on the list may be interested in this network.
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
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Dear Friends Phralalen,
Amen chi
The MC at the Nader rally of 7,000 in Oakland, California (Oct.
21) claimed poll results showing Nader at 6% in the state, 8% in
Minnesota, and 9% in Connecticut.
Charles Andrews
An analysis of Nader's economic program is at
http://www.LaborRepublic.org/Essay40.htm
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Remember that Robert Brenner was writing not just scholarly articles
but _political tracts_ against neo-Malthusians, world systems theory,
etc. -- hence his polemical _emphasis_ on class struggles in the
English countryside, Poland, etc. The point is to
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Subject: Du Bois on the slave system
From BLACK RECONSTRUCTION IN AMERICA by W.E. Burgardt
Du Bois; Cleveland and New York, Meridian Books, The
World
Doyle Saylor wrote:
Greetings Comrades,
The form of e-lists is familiar enough. Some people have remarked on
how the lists themselves don't serve as good organizing tools (see Carrol
Dunno what Carrol thinks - but I've made similar remarks, and it is NOT
that e-lists make poor
At 09:57 AM 10/22/2000 -0700, you wrote:
The MC at the Nader rally ... claimed poll results showing Nader at ... 9%
in Connecticut.
where people know Joe Lieberman well?
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine
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A few quotes from the Republican nominee...
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"Mars is essentially in the same orbit...Mars is somewhat the same
distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen
I do not doubt there is some truth behind the OSCE report on defects of
human rights and the criminal justice system in Kosovo (Oct 20)
The following reports also show some of the potential advantages of
bourgeois legality, over distortions of socialist legality, in reducing
national
Coast to Coast Actions to Save "Democracy Now" Take
Back Pacifica
Wednesday, October 25
Berkeley, Houston, Los Angeles, New York, Washington, DC
"Democracy Now!" in Danger
On October 16, the Pacifica Radio network threatened to fire
Yoshie:
periphery within the context of imperialism. Brenner's emphasis on
the necessity to analyze specific class structures class struggles
in concrete is an heir to the tradition of José Carlos Mariátegui
(recall his analysis of the Indigenous Question, for instance); his
warning against
BBC Monitoring
International energy projects seen as NATO bid to sideline Russia
Source: 'Nezavisimaya Gazeta', Moscow, in Russian 19 Oct 00 p4
The Baku-Ceyhan oil pipeline project, proposals for a Transcaspian pipeline
to transport Turkmen gas to Turkey and a project to supply Turkmen
Does anyone have material to hand on the Thomson news media empire -
particularly stuff relevant to its involvement in higher education, such as
prior involvement, editorial interference etc. Anything on the extent of the
empire would be useful too.
Thanks
Bill Rosenberg
The content of this
Of course, we are not talking about the same Brenner. My Marx isn't
the same as many Marxists' Marx either -- hence my (rather
individualist) refusal to join any party so far, including Solidarity
(and I've criticized _Against the Current_ more often than _you_
have!). I intend to make my
I do not doubt there is some truth behind the OSCE report on defects of
human rights and the criminal justice system in Kosovo (Oct 20)
The following reports also show some of the potential advantages of
bourgeois legality, over distortions of socialist legality, in reducing
national
Yoshie wrote: Of course, we are not talking about the same Brenner. My
Marx isn't
the same as many Marxists' Marx either -- hence my (rather
individualist) refusal to join any party so far, including Solidarity
(and I've criticized _Against the Current_ more often than _you_
have!). I
Guilt by association! Brenner is a Genovese-symp! Very logical.
Did I send this to PEN-L by mistake? Sorry about that. I meant to reply to
Yoshie only on the Marxism list but deleted the wrong address when replying.
Louis Proyect
Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org/
From National Post, October 18, 2000
I am not Canadian
Drunk U.S. soldier blames behaviour on our strong beer
Arthur Milnes
The Kingston Whig-Standard
KINGSTON - An American soldier charged with causing a disturbance and
assaulting a police officer while drunk in downtown Kingston pleaded
From what I've seen, the choice between these two and Genovese is Hobson in
nature. I am more familiar with Genovese based on discussion and reading
over the years, but from this evidence turned up on Lexis-Nexis, the
Engerman-Fogel stuff is even more reactionary. What both sides in the
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American slavery rested on use of force, not on
planter class succeeding in manufacturing legitimacy via other means.
Michael Hoover
CB: The true crux of the time on the cross.
Greetings Comrades,
The form of e-lists is familiar enough. Some people have remarked on
how the lists themselves don't serve as good organizing tools (see Carrol
Cox). I want to look at the contemporary business model of like forms of
"knowledge" production for examples of how e-lists
Charles:
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While Brenner
unfortunately focuses on class struggles internal to each given
social formation through comparative analysis, one can _modify_ the
Brenner thesis in such a way that we can better account for the
emergence of core and periphery than Blackburn, Wallerstein,
Both Engerman and Genovese started out as new leftists.
Louis Proyect
Genovese was CPer in late 40s. His hostility to New Left is pretty
legend, he detested NL street politics, building occupations, lifestyle
politics. EG claims that he has never been radical and cultural
conservatism
Guilt by association! Brenner is a Genovese-symp! Very logical.
Did I send this to PEN-L by mistake? Sorry about that. I meant to reply to
Yoshie only on the Marxism list but deleted the wrong address when replying.
Louis Proyect
Well, why not here as well? I just picked up _The General
Greetings Economists,
An interesting reply from Gar Lipow which articulates an every day feel
of e-lists that underlies what I was pointing at in the knowledge management
technology. I think part of what Gar writes is similar to my understanding
of what makes e-lists work. However I want to
Hi Jim B.:
CB: Yes. Jim Blaut seems to think that Brenner was polemicizing
against emphasis on national liberation movements at the time.
No. Robert Brenner was _not_ siding with the political adversaries
of Frank, Wallerstein, etc. against national liberation movements.
Brenner was trying,
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Hi Lou:
This is an evasion. ATC has had a consistently BAD position not only the
questions I alluded to before, but has had an atrocious analysis of the
former Soviet Union which generally falls under rubric of thank god the
nasty Stalinists are gone. In the past 10 years there has not been a
Charles Brown wrote:
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Remember that Robert Brenner was writing not just scholarly articles
but _political tracts_ against neo-Malthusians, world systems theory,
etc. -- hence his polemical _emphasis_ on class struggles in the
English countryside, Poland, etc.
Hi Lou:
Yoshie:
periphery within the context of imperialism. Brenner's emphasis on
the necessity to analyze specific class structures class struggles
in concrete is an heir to the tradition of José Carlos Mariátegui
(recall his analysis of the Indigenous Question, for instance); his
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