Cheney sick

2001-03-07 Thread Keaney Michael
George W. Bush -- one heartbeat away from the Presidency.

Re: Re: farewell to academe

2001-03-07 Thread Doug Henwood
Ellen Frank wrote: If you look at male/female ratios and average salaries across all levels of education, its very clear that the more a job entails actual teaching (as opposed to lecturing about one's pet obsessions), the lower the pay and status and the higher the percentage of women. Close

Re: RE: Re: Re: farewell to academe

2001-03-07 Thread Ken Hanly
Friedman was right on about some of the reasons against such charitable activities. Businesses are or should be driven by the profit motive whereas this is not the aim of non-profit organisations. Business skills are those which can generate profit and are different from the skills required in a

Takings (Canada)

2001-03-07 Thread Charles Brown
Does the provinicial law limit the Canadian federal government taking power ? So, so what if there is no Constitutional guarantee of eminent domain ? You say your post implied an obvious point , but then it was explicit about a misleading fact - that the Constitution doesn't have an eminent

Re: RE: Re: RE: bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread Doug Henwood
David Shemano wrote: As I said several months ago, many on the Left seem in love with the idea of a static economy/society. Doug's comment is Exhibit A. I'm not. But I think we should ask many more qualitative questions about "innovation" than we do, not to mention priorities in the

RE: bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/06/01 05:37PM There is no way any central planning board would ever approve what we are witnessing. ( CB: Members of the jury, I can rest my case for central planning based on the description of dot.com companies and this conclusion in the argument of my

Brooklyn Congressman protests WBAI censorship

2001-03-07 Thread Louis Proyect
(from save wbai mailing list) Credit: New York Newsday http://www.newsday.com/news/daily/wbai307.htm WBAI Spat In Congress Rep. upset about being cut off during interview by Peter Goodman Staff Writer The bitter fight over control of listener-sponsored WBAI/99.5 FM is about to spill onto the

Re: Brooklyn Congressman protests WBAI censorship

2001-03-07 Thread Jim Devine
what was Rep. Major Owens saying when they cut him off? (and does he have a sibling named "Minor"?) At 10:14 AM 03/07/2001 -0500, you wrote: (from save wbai mailing list) Credit: New York Newsday http://www.newsday.com/news/daily/wbai307.htm WBAI Spat In Congress Rep. upset about being cut

Re: Chossudovsky on Iraq bombing..

2001-03-07 Thread Jim Devine
awhile back Steve Philion wrote: The US might be into long term investment then, with short term losses? Reference the Yugoslavia bombing. In the short term it seemed thoroughly irrational, since the population was solidly behind Milosevic and anti-American during the civilian bombing

Re: Re: Brooklyn Congressman protests WBAI censorship

2001-03-07 Thread Louis Proyect
At 07:24 AM 3/7/01 -0800, you wrote: what was Rep. Major Owens saying when they cut him off? (and does he have a sibling named "Minor"?) The audio transcript of the show is at: http://www.savepacifica.net. Utrice Leid, the hand-picked Pacifica station manager, is horrific. Louis Proyect

BLS Daily Report

2001-03-07 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, MARCH 6, 2001: RELEASED TODAY: "Productivity and Costs, Fourth Quarter and Annual Averages, 2000" indicates that revised fourth-quarter seasonally-adjusted annual rates of productivity change -- as measured by output per hour of all persons -- and revised

Is Racism in the Interest of White Workers?

2001-03-07 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/06/01 09:10PM Yoshie asks: Do white workers gain _higher real wages better social programs_ by practicing racism _even in the short term_? Yes, I think they do. Bigotry in the work place pays off -- that is why all those white men out there have lower unemployment

Re: The Independent Institute

2001-03-07 Thread Doug Henwood
Keaney Michael wrote: Louis recently complained with justification about the soft soap given to Mexico's foreign minister Castaneda in the latest New Left Review. Last night as I was wading through yet another piece by Stefan Collini I noticed that Cockburn is listed as one of NLR's editorial

RE: Is Racism in the Interest of White Workers?

2001-03-07 Thread Forstater, Mathew
Well, the Classical Marxist school (Darity, Williams, et al) argues that capitalists do not autonomously determine the composition of the divisions within the working class, but rather that gendered and racially and ethnically diverse workers participate in the process that distinguishes the

Re: Airline deregulation consensus

2001-03-07 Thread Jim Devine
At 08:39 PM 3/6/01 -0500, you wrote: Two of Ted Kennedy's aides, Stephen Breyer and Phil Bakes, were apparently involved with the antiwar movement at Harvard, in much the same manner as Bill Clinton I suppose. For these two, the drive against airline regulation was somehow akin to the 60s

Re: The Independent Institute

2001-03-07 Thread Ken Hanly
Isn't Living Marxism now dead and the narcissistic controversialists bankrupt, after the magazine was successfully sued? Among other things the magazine said some ugly but true things about some media coverage in Yugoslavia that could damage reputations. But under British law being true may not

International Programs position at NMSU

2001-03-07 Thread Janet M. Tanski
I would like to invite any PEN-Ler who is interested in a position dealing with international programs to consider this opening at NMSU. Although the position announcement states that a requirement is "a minimum of eight years of administrative management experience" I am going to make a strong

RE: RE: bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread David Shemano
Charles Brown wrote: There is no way any central planning board would ever approve what we are witnessing. ( CB: Members of the jury, I can rest my case for central planning based on the description of dot.com companies and this conclusion in the argument of

RE: bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread David Shemano
Doug Henwood wrote: -- As I said several months ago, many on the Left seem in love with the idea of a static economy/society. Doug's comment is Exhibit A. I'm not. But I think we should ask many more qualitative questions about "innovation" than we do, not to mention

Quebec City prohibits wearing scarves...

2001-03-07 Thread Ken Hanly
A CALL TO SOLIDARITY WITH CITIZENS OF QUEBEC CITY AND ST.-FOY: WEARING THE SCARF April 2 Importance: High Stand up to creeping police state tactics in Canada! A Simple Plan for Solidarity and Action to: * Support the Citizens of St.-Foy and Quebec City and * To

bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/01 12:44PM Charles Brown wrote: There is no way any central planning board would ever approve what we are witnessing. ( CB: Members of the jury, I can rest my case for central planning based on the description of dot.com companies

Re: RE: bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread Doug Henwood
David Shemano wrote: I get your point, but I really think you are comparing apples and oranges. All of the "public goods" you mention are exactly that -- goods -- and the society needs to generate wealth to purchase those goods. Wealth creation may not look orderly or tidy, but it is what it is

Broadcasting deregulation and radical radio

2001-03-07 Thread Louis Proyect
Bob McChesney has written extensively on media consolidation, democratic media, and corporate/government control of the airwaves. This article provides a framework for understanding how absolutely *irreplaceable* WBAI is, because of the larger picture of media ownership and regulatory policy.

Re: Re: RE: bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day all, David Shemano wrote: I get your point, but I really think you are comparing apples and oranges. All of the "public goods" you mention are exactly that -- goods -- and the society needs to generate wealth to purchase those goods. Wealth creation may not look orderly or tidy,

Re: RE: bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread Rob Schaap
Really have to get some shut-eye, but I've just had a peek at the front page of today's paper. It's a real keeper. 72 points worth of AUSTRALIA HITS WALL! 'Negative growth of 0.6%, a neoliberal government (very suddenly) with the lowest approval ratings any Australian government has ever

Is Racism in the Interest of White Workers?

2001-03-07 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/01 12:10PM Well, the Classical Marxist school (Darity, Williams, et al) argues that capitalists do not autonomously determine the composition of the divisions within the working class, but rather that gendered and racially and ethnically diverse workers participate in

RE: Re: RE: bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread David Shemano
In reply to Doug Henwood: -- I get your point, but I really think you are comparing apples and oranges. All of the "public goods" you mention are exactly that -- goods -- and the society needs to generate wealth to purchase those goods. Wealth creation may not look

RE: Re: Re: RE: bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread David Shemano
In reply to Rob Schaap: Hope Dave's not arguing some of these public goods don't represent investments in yer actual wealth creation, either. And as for 'revolutionising our lives for the better' - well, I think it is high time ol' Epicurus was back in fashion

Re: 1993 Resignations from NLR Editorial Board

2001-03-07 Thread Chris Burford
At 22:54 06/03/01 -0800, Michael Pugliese wrote: http://nuance.dhs.org/lbo-talk/0005/0270.html We do not know whether the coup portends a change of editorial direction for NLR. How does this look 7 years on? Any comments. Chris Burford

Re: RE: Re: RE: bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread Doug Henwood
David Shemano wrote: The wealthier a society is, the more able it is to afford a generous social welfare system. In the future, assuming the economy grows, it will be better able to afford the present level of benefits. Is this controversial? It seems to me that if you are a believer in a big

Re: RE: Re: Re: RE: bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread Rob Schaap
Hate to disappoint you, but I doubt very heavily that the public goods Doug mentioned make any significant contribution to economic growth. Well, in some parts of the world health, education and communications still come under the 'public goods' category. And anyway, even Eddie Luttwak

bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/01 03:27PM The wealthier a society is, the more able it is to afford a generous social welfare system. In the future, assuming the economy grows, it will be better able to afford the present level of benefits. Is this controversial? ((( CB: Highly

BLS Daily Report

2001-03-07 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 7, 2001: Nonfarm business sector productivity growth was revised downward to a 2.2 percent annual rate of increase for the fourth quarter of 2000 as unit labor costs rose to a 4.3 percent rate, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reports. Productivity

Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread Justin Schwartz
By the way, several Luxembourg Income Study working papers examined the relations between the generosity of social spending and economic growth and found little or none. But even if there were, I'd prefer a society where people don't starve on the sidewalk to one where growth was 0.2 points

RE: Is Racism in the Interest of White Workers?

2001-03-07 Thread Forstater, Mathew
Hi Charles - Two preliminary points. On the term "Classical Marxist" I use the term to describe this group not to say they are the "one, true" Marxists but because, first, that is what they call themselves, and second, to distinguish their position from the neo-Marxist one. Neo-Marxists tend to

Is Racism in the Interest of White Workers?

2001-03-07 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/01 04:50PM -clip- So I am not saying that anyone is the "true" Marxists, of course there are other contending perspectives. Classical, orthodox, fundamentalist, whatever. CB: Thanks for the outline of those schools of thought. I didn't think you were

Moral bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread Michael Perelman
I would like to apply David's logic to people. I would like to see is welcome massive investment in people, making sure every child has a good chance to succeed. No more of distributing education on the basis of the ability to buy a good house. Just like the dot.com's, somebody investments

RE: bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread David Shemano
In reply to Doug Henwood: --- The wealthier a society is, the more able it is to afford a generous social welfare system. In the future, assuming the economy grows, it will be better able to afford the present level of benefits. Is this controversial? It seems to me

Re: Moral bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread Justin Schwartz
David wouldn't mind this on a free enterprise basis. Let everyone convince some porivate individual to make an investment in her! See, George II did it with George I Barb, and now he's Prez, despite being a moron. Tyrone and Juanita, unfortunately for themselves, could not persuade anyone to

RE: Moral bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread David Shemano
In rely to Michael Perelman: - I would like to apply David's logic to people. I would like to see is welcome massive investment in people, making sure every child has a good chance to succeed. No more of distributing education on the basis of the ability to buy

Re: RE: bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread Jim Devine
Doug had written: So it's ok to piss away scores of billions in IPO money because some virtuous innovation might result, but it's not ok to have a public health insurance system, subsidized child care, or a decent minimum income. The latter are wasteful, while the former is a reasonable price

Re: RE: bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread Justin Schwartz
- Way to go out on a limb -- take a provocative position against starvation in the streets. Is that how you see your ideological opponents -- they would rather have .2 more growth than an end to hunger? I'm afraid so, David. Doug puts it more pithily and sharply

Re: Re: RE: bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread Doug Henwood
Justin Schwartz wrote: Way to go out on a limb -- take a provocative position against starvation in the streets. Is that how you see your ideological opponents -- they would rather have .2 more growth than an end to hunger? I'm afraid so, David. Doug puts it more pithily and sharply than

A request for your critique

2001-03-07 Thread Michael Perelman
I just whipped off a response to a negative review of a book of mine. I finally show it to you for comments before I submitted it. I will probably send it off tomorrow morning show any quick reviews would be appreciated. Greg Clark gave my book, The Invention of Capitalism, a good-natured,

Re: RE: Moral bankruptcy

2001-03-07 Thread Michael Perelman
Well, David, your proposal might help the birth rate, but I don't think that it would help education much. The point of the New York Times article was that without infrastructural support, money spent on education might not help the most disadvantaged. David Shemano wrote: Here is a

The pen-l Challenge junta

2001-03-07 Thread Timework Web
Hey, I know I'm kind of slow on this one, but my article was mentioned in the November/December 2000 issue. In "Doing Something About Long Hours", Lonnie Golden and Deb Figart presented an overview of the analysis contained in their book, "Working Time: International Trends, Theory and Policy

Re: A request for your critique

2001-03-07 Thread Timework Web
Whatever else, I got a kick out of Greg Clark dubbing Michael "the Chico Marx". Tom Walker (604) 947-2213

Re: Re: A request for your critique

2001-03-07 Thread Michael Perelman
Martin Bronfenbrenner used that line all the time. On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 03:58:59PM -0800, Timework Web wrote: Whatever else, I got a kick out of Greg Clark dubbing Michael "the Chico Marx". Tom Walker (604) 947-2213 -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State

Juan Gonzalez report on Houston protests

2001-03-07 Thread Louis Proyect
Dear Friends, I am pleased to report that I returned several days ago from a weekend of inspiring protest and national organizing at the Mar. 2-Mar. 4 Pacifica National Board meeting in Houston. More than 100 listeners flew into Houston from all around the country to join with hundreds of

Re: A request for your critique TYPO

2001-03-07 Thread Carrol Cox
Michael, a bad Typo. You write: The Corn Laws also caught up innocent people. Wealthy landowners installed lethal spring guns and man traps to protect their game from poachers. Many of the victims of these instruments were children just playing outside. Obviously you mean Game Laws. Carrol

Re: A request for your critique

2001-03-07 Thread Michael Yates
Michael, I gues your critic never read Marx himself. The political economists obviously had class biases. By the time of hacks like Senior, they were so openly pro-capitalist, that Marx correctly called them vulgar economists. As usual, Michael, you are too kind to this critic. Michael Yates

Re: A request for your critique

2001-03-07 Thread Margaret Coleman
I think the rebuttal is excellent, especially since it addresses one of my pet peeves -- that academics and researchers like Greg Clark tend to assess the nineteenth century with twentieth century perceptions. and, one of the things I like about your work, Michael, is that you attempt to put

Re: World Government and World Oppression

2001-03-07 Thread Jim Devine
[from my back pages] awhile back, Chris B. wrote: But I do think we have to grasp the nettle that every so often - certainly in the 20th century - there are times when what was objectively in the interests of the struggle world wide did not conform with the subjective aspirations of

Re: Re: s Racism in the Interest of White Workers?

2001-03-07 Thread Margaret Coleman
I agree that from an objective position racism is irrational and does not provide a long term benefit to anyone -- but, I think that many, many workers (I hesitate to say majority) see that it is in their short term interests to practice discrimination. Where workers have their consciousness

Re: Is Racism in the Interest of White Workers?

2001-03-07 Thread Margaret Coleman
Charles, I agree that it is the bosses who do the hiring, but to say they are the only racists in the system is naive at best. Take the phone co., for instance, 90% of their almost all white, all male management comes from within the ranks of the technicians. Getting promoted is a matter of

The unreliability- incompetence argument deployed to give racketeers more $$$

2001-03-07 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Published on Wednesday, March 7, 2001 in the Guardian of London US Test Failings Make Weapons 'Unreliable' Pentagon Report Lambasts Missile Shield Evaluation by Martin Kettle in Washington Reduced and inadequate testing has led to a serious decline in the reliability of US weapons, a Pentagon

Re: Is Racism in the Interest of White Workers?

2001-03-07 Thread Michael Perelman
Maggie says that racism is irrational and ingrained. Of course, she is correct. Part of the problem is that the right is so much better than we are in capturing people's imagination. Somehow I would like to think that we could work out a way that we could talk to people in a way that they

Re: Re: Re: s Racism in the Interest of White Workers?

2001-03-07 Thread Carrol Cox
Margaret Coleman wrote: I agree that from an objective position racism is irrational and does not provide a long term benefit to anyone -- but, I think that many, many workers (I hesitate to say majority) see that it is in their short term interests to practice discrimination. I think

Re: Re: A request for your critique

2001-03-07 Thread Justin Schwartz
I have a t-shirt showing the three Marx Bros (the famous ones) Karl, with the slogan, "Sure, I'm a Marxist!" Me, I wouldn't want to belong to any party thatw ould have me. And what makes wage slaves? Wages! (There's for you, David, S.) --jks Whatever else, I got a kick out of Greg Clark

RE: Re: Is Racism in the Interest of White Workers?

2001-03-07 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Maggie says that racism is irrational and ingrained. Of course, she is correct. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] As is sexism. That being said, was the repeal of the ergonomics standards

The Independent Institute

2001-03-07 Thread Keaney Michael
Ken Hanly wrote: Isn't Living Marxism now dead and the narcissistic controversialists bankrupt, after the magazine was successfully sued? Among other things the magazine said some ugly but true things about some media coverage in Yugoslavia that could damage reputations. But under British law