Anthony wrote:
On this I will have to agree with Brad. I think the (advanced
capitalist country) left tends to dismiss growth. It is possible that
growth is likely to lead to inequality initially (Kuznets curve) but it
does not have to remain that way. If as we find in the Korean case,
correction:
Anthony, I don't think any of the few paleo-Marxists on the list like
myself would argue that developing countries can [should be CAN NOT] enjoy
spurts of remarkable
growth at a given time and in a given place.
Louis Proyect
Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org
Water is fast becoming the bottleneck to development. Canada is
probably unique in having so much good water per capita.
I suspect that within 10 years, the world will be turning its attention
far more to water than to oil. Sort of a global version of Chinatown --
the old movie.
Now, NAFTA is
Water farming began in California, where the Bass Brothers -- from Texas --
began buying up farms new San Diego in order to sell water. Farmers in my part
of California are selling their ground water -- which is ridiculous, since when
they pump "their" water, they are also selling "mine". After
I think that a New Yorker, Doug Henwood, was the first to point
out about water farms. After I pointed out a story concerning
the Bass Brothers, he chided me because it was printed in a
section of the Wall Street Journal that I should not be reading.
In defense, I told him the it was on the
Michael Perelman wrote:
I think that a New Yorker, Doug Henwood, was the first to point
out about water farms. After I pointed out a story concerning
the Bass Brothers, he chided me because it was printed in a
section of the Wall Street Journal that I should not be reading.
In defense, I told
http://www.hcn.org [to read about the real Queen of the Desert]
You chided me for reading the Money and Investment section rather than the
news section.
Michael Perelman wrote:
I think that a New Yorker, Doug Henwood, was the first to point
out about water farms. After I pointed out a story concerning
the Bass Brothers, he chided me because it was
Anthony wrote:
I think the (advanced capitalist country) left tends to dismiss
growth. It is possible that growth is likely to lead to inequality
initially (Kuznets curve) but it does not have to remain that way. If as
we find in the Korean case, labor-intensive export-led growth did
The Observer (London)
Sunday April 15, 2001
Necessity test is mother of GATS intervention
by Gregory Palast
The World Trade Organisation has plans to replace that outmoded
political idea: democracy
Trade Minister Dick Caborn says 'nothing' all day, and this keeps him
very, very
In place of a public interest standard, the Secretariat proposes a
deliciously Machiavellian 'efficiency principle': 'It may well be
politically more acceptable to countries to accept international obligations
which give primacy to economic efficiency.' This is an unsubtle invitation
to load the
At 11:30 AM 4/16/01 -0400, you wrote:
I heard the Bass story from a college friend of mine who used to live in
(and grew up in) the Imperial Valley, a blasted desert that has been
heavily irrigated and soaked in toxic chemicals. She told me that the
local farmers had decided that post-NAFTA,
At 04:39 PM 4/16/01 +0100, you wrote:
Jesus was born at a time and in an area of intense mingling of national
and class contradictions and a questioning of ethical values, as the
subsequent Jewish wars and the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls attest.
One of the things which was happening was
Short curly hair, and beard,
(supported by Paul in Corinthians saying that long hair naturally disgraces
a man), darker skin, and rounder features, based on reconstruction of a 1st
century skulls from the area.
Out of some sort of masochistic impulse I usually catch the odious
McLaughlin
Not to flog a dead horse, but to return to Ken Hanly's response to the uses and abuses
of GDP . . . The two options given were that the rich get $1 million and the poor 1c,
and the poor all get $100 and the rich loose $100. Is there something about Pareto
optimatlity that makes it impossible
Decoding the 'productivity gap'
Nobody would argue with increasing economic efficiency. But how do you define it?
Peter Robinson
Monday April 16, 2001
The Guardian
The government is obsessed with closing the "productivity gap". The Treasury and the
Department of Trade and Industry have signed
I've never met anyone so dumb as to claim the fact that the Second
International did *no* thinking about what society would look like
after the revolution played a role in opening the way for Stalin.
Until now...
I have not been a part of this thread and tend to generally avoid these
kinds
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Probably not intentionally calculated to do so. Michael Yates
suggested that it was a
reflexive action.
As I said, it is not a reflex action. It is a mere commonplace: If
you refuse to *think* about the future--claim that thinking about the
future is
Los Angeles Times,
Monday, April 9, 2001
Use Eminent Domain as a Power Tool
By MICHAEL J. AGUIRRE
Gov. Gray Davis should follow Pacific Gas Electric's example and admit
that his electricity program is also bankrupt. The governor's primary
objective was to keep the utilities from
Is Brad D. discussing and planning a socialist or a capitalist future ?
CB
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Wow.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 10:41:54PM -0700, Brad DeLong wrote:
I recall how Marx scrupulously tried to avoid discussions about how
to organize the future,
since it would just
Surely efficiency is not simply a function of rights. Rights certainly are
necessary for efficiency--as even eocnomists such as Coase recognize-- and
the degree of efficiency may partially is determined by rights structures:
but that does not entail that efficiency is a function of rights in that
Shouldn't you be able to sue if as a result of the pumping the water table
is lowered and your well goes dry?
CHeers, Ken Hanly
- Original Message -
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:58 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:10264] Re: Water
Ken Hanly wrote:
5) Two machines both cost the same. One produces 10 widgets an hour
the other 50. Imagine the machines under any system of rights you want. Does
the efficiency vary. In some regimes is the first machine more efficient
than the second. How come?
The goal of the
--- Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
isn't water in California agriculture subsidized
(relative to cost)? So
isn't water-farming taking advantage of the
taxpayer?
And how. I'll get back to you on the exact numbers,
but the biggest scam going is something called the
Westlands Water
I was simply pointing out a difficulty in using Pareto optimality as a
criterion of an increase in welfare. Actually the situation is even worse
since it is not an actual but just a potential increase that is the standard
criterion. You can imagine any distribution you like that gives the two
Consumers May Begin to Feel the Pain
Commentary. Art Pine is a columnist for Bloomberg News. The opinions expressed
are his own.
By Art Pine
Washington, April 16 (Bloomberg) -- One of the most critical uncertainties
about the U.S. economy is how much consumers will pull in their horns.
Scams a plenty. When the initial holdings of the Kern Co. land co. came
when people claimed to row their boats across wetlands to stake their
claims. The land was actually dry at the time, and the boats were atop
wagons. The claims still are valid today.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics
I should have mentioned that the federal gov't only allows 160
acres of land to get subsidized water. The state constructed a
multibillion dollar water system to mix state and federal water to
make enforcement impossible. The head of Kern Co. land testified,
"we have non enforcement of the law,
Scams a plenty. When the initial holdings of the Kern Co. land co. came
when people claimed to row their boats across wetlands to stake their
claims. The land was actually dry at the time, and the boats were atop
wagons. The claims still are valid today.
--
Michael Perelman
Speaking of
Ken wrote:
P.S. My only interest in talking about Pareto optimality is that it is a key value
assumption in mainstream welfare economics. Actually an increase in GDP itself does
not entail Pareto Optiimality since some could be made worse off by the growth, but
presumably it would be a
BLS DAILY REPORT, MONDAY, APRIL 16, 2001:
The college enrollment rate for the high school graduating lass of 2000
rose 0.4 percentage points to 63.3 percent, but was still far below the
record high rate of 67 percent in 1997, the Bureau of Labor Statistics
reports. The enrollment rate
Friends,
You are amazing. I checked my mailbox after a few days today and there were 82
unread mails. And I am using this address for PEN-L only.
Like Michael, I also like to hear from other countries and I am writing this
mail to tell this to the friends from these countries.
Prior to June
2) Most of these lists are dominated by posters from the first world.
Most posters from the non-english speaking countries are from the first world.
One potential reason is that, despite lack of real democracy, these countries
are not as repressive as the non-first world countries and
How can we encourage those subscribers from S. Korea, Indoneasia, Brazil,
Argentina, Turkey and the like, some of whom most likely are non-experts and
some of whom most likely are not-so-well-known experts to join the
discussions?
Best,
Sabri
Perhaps we can encourage Michael Perelman to spend a
For all those admirers from afar of the Kerala model see the following:
http://csf.colorado.edu/bcas/kerala/kerther1.htm
also same as above...kerala/ker-omv.htm
Anthony P. D'Costa
Associate Professor
Martin Brown wrote:
The house "conservative"
Tony Blankley who use to be Newt Gingrich's press guy, was appalled at the
"ignoble appearance" presented by this revisionist image.
Well at least that is one point for the BBC series!
At 09:34 16/04/01 -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
One of the things
Lou is absolutely correct about my narrow horizons. I have spent a week
or so in Cuba, under the tutelage of Jim Devine, and a week in Puerto
Rico. Not much, I admit.
Perhaps we can encourage Michael Perelman to spend a year travelling in
Africa and Asia.
Actually Sabri wrote me before he
Actually Sabri wrote me before he came on the list, introducing himself as
an Indonesian. I did not know where he was located.
Now I am confused. I was under the distinct impression that Sabri was from
Turkey!
Louis Proyect
Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org/
Anthony DCosta wrote:
For all those admirers from afar of the Kerala model see the following:
http://csf.colorado.edu/bcas/kerala/kerther1.htm
i do not admire kerala from afar - my father was brought up there and
i have lived in the neighbouring state of tamil nadu for 20 of the
30
Surely efficiency is not simply a function of rights.
They don't say that.
Rights certainly are
necessary for efficiency--as even eocnomists such as Coase recognize-- and
the degree of efficiency may partially is determined by rights structures:
but that does not entail that
--- Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually Sabri wrote me before he came on the list, introducing himself as
an Indonesian. I did not know where he was located.
Michael,
Sabri is an arabic/muslim name (not that I have any religion) so it is possible
that an Indonesian with the
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i wrote:
snip list of questions
i have to confess that some of the questions i raised in my message
were addressed (if not answered to my satisfaction) in the essay.
in particular the essay not only suggested that the latest data
proves unsustainability but also provided reasons to
Michael Perelman writes: Lou is absolutely correct about my narrow horizons. I have
spent a week or so in Cuba, under the tutelage of Jim Devine...
hey, I was under _your_ tutelage...
In reality, we were both on an urban planning tour in 1970 (run by the late New York
GUARDIAN). It's pretty
I sent my son David, an economist who works for the Saskatchewan government,
a recent post by David Shemano and this is his reply.
Cheers, Ken Hanly
Hi,
What has been indicated below is correct since the state of California
stepped in I believe in December (?) when out of state utilities
I will have to get back to Ravi's long post later. I am on my way out to
discuss, yes, "failed states" and new imperialism. But a quick look
suggests some gross factual errors. For example, Bihar being dubbed by
Ravi as highly industralized. I hope you are not serious! Bihar is the
classic
Does anyone have any information on how the spliting
of PGE into two separate entities (PGE Co., which
owns the transmission business and is now bankrupt,
and PGE Corp., which owns the generating facilities
and is now fabulously profitable) has affected stock
owners? Seems like the net effect
Has any of you written an article, given a talk, organized a
teach-in, etc. on the FTAA (Free Trade Area of Americas)? If you
have an article, could you post it here or send it to me offlist? I
got invited to be on a panel discussion on the FTAA. What do you
think should be my talking
As the religious influence of Christianity arguably fades, popular history
presents it in a fuller material political and economic context, and
perhaps gives insights into its future role.
The 3-part BBC historical documentary made with France 3, which completed
on Easter Sunday, has the
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