Hi Michael.. Please post this. Thanks a lot.

2001-06-22 Thread Cy Gonick
HIGHLIGHTS from recent issues of CANADIAN DIMENSION magazine: May-June, 2001 * Editorial - From the Berlin Wall to the Quebec Wall. How representative democracy was hijacked behind the Wall and how direct democracy marched to the rescue. * Azmi Bishara - Apartheid Consciousness and

Global Judgement Treaty- Corporate Power Enforcement

2001-06-22 Thread Nathan Newman
This treaty is getting less play than the WTO and FTAA, but by forcing US Courts to enforce foreign judgements and vice versa, it could potentially be far more important and pervasive in its effects. It's a two-edged sword since judgements against corporations might be enforced globally more

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: red flags

2001-06-22 Thread Eugene Coyle
War of the Roses again? I'm betting on York. Gene Coyle Margaret Coleman wrote: Bread and Roses?? maggie Jim Devine wrote: checking out the British Labour Party on the web, they seem to have dropped the red flag as their symbol (replacing it with a red rose -- with thorns?) but

Re: Current implications for South Africa

2001-06-22 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Chris wrote: To extract from Patrick Bond's long post of 20th June: One work from the left ANC tradition (which I had the privilege to edit), Mzwanele Mayekiso's Township Politics: Civic Struggles for a New South Africa (New York, Monthly Review, 1996), makes a plausible case that many more

Farming, Malaria and Genomic plasticity

2001-06-22 Thread Ian Murray
[NYT] June 22, 2001 Genetic Study Dates Malaria to the Advent of Farming By NICHOLAS WADE Malaria, a leading cause of death in the world, is not the ancient affliction it might seem but a relatively recent scourge that dates only to the era when human societies first practiced agriculture. That

Re: Hi Michael.. Please post this. Thanks a lot.

2001-06-22 Thread Michael Pugliese
*Will Offley - Dry Rot: The Far Right Targets the Left. How the far right penetrates Left projects like the anti-globalization movement -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:38 PM Subject:

Re: Hi Michael.. Please post this. Thanks a lot.

2001-06-22 Thread Michael Perelman
Done. Will you ever return to the list? On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 09:20:13AM -0500, Cy Gonick wrote: HIGHLIGHTS from recent issues of CANADIAN DIMENSION magazine: May-June, 2001 * Editorial - From the Berlin Wall to the Quebec Wall. How representative democracy was

Re: RE: Re: Current implications for South Africa

2001-06-22 Thread Doug Henwood
Mark Jones wrote: The truth is that if Pat Bond is unrealistic, your scheme is much more so, since it requires not only the willing consent of the global elites to their own elimination, but also the presence three additional planet earths plus zero population growth on this one. So the 6

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Current implications for SouthAfrica

2001-06-22 Thread Doug Henwood
Mark Jones wrote: Doug Henwood wrote: So the 6 billion people of the earth - what's going to happen to them? Should they consent to dying off in vast numbers? What would *you* advise? I'm not as apocalyptically gloomy as you are, so I don't think Yoshie's program is as dreamy as you

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Current implicationsfor South Africa

2001-06-22 Thread Doug Henwood
Mark Jones wrote: Doug Henwood wrote: I'm not as apocalyptically gloomy as you are In the two years since you told me that oil price rises were 'short term fluctuations', a 'spike', the result of a market perturbation--oil prices have tripled and gas prices have risen still more. There is no

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Current implications for South Africa

2001-06-22 Thread Mark Jones
Doug Henwood earlier wrote [PEN-L:13799]: it's more of a 19th century slowdown than a post-WW II one, with a financial hangover from the burst Nasdaq/tech bubble, and a real sector one from overinvestment in gadgets. It's probably going to take some time to work through it. Maybe Doug is

CA blackouts and sewage spills

2001-06-22 Thread Tim Bousquet
Officials Warn Power Outages Could Cause Major Sewage Spills Regional water authorities say cutoff at pumping stations and in underground pipes could loose millions of gallons. Los Angeles Times - 6/22/01 By Seema Mehta, staff writer Regional water officials are warning sewer agencies

energy prices

2001-06-22 Thread Jim Devine
[was: Re: [PEN-L:13835] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Current implications for South Africa] Doug wrote: Prices [of oil] are still low, whether measured relative to average hourly wages or a price index. real energy prices (the consumer price index for energy divided by the over-all CPI for

Re: Current implications for South Africa

2001-06-22 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Yoshie Furuhashi The expansion of mass consumption regional linkages (in opposition to elite consumption subordination to financial centers) under the Bond program (if ever implemented -- but who bells the cat?) can presumably overcome the tendency to overaccumulation inherent in

Re: Current implications for South Africa

2001-06-22 Thread Michael Perelman
This discussion with Mark, Doug, and Yoshi is very important, although it seems to be going on different levels. Mark is correct that in the not too distant future, energy prices even though the short-term prices are susceptible to manipulation. Even so, I suspect that the monopolistic upward

IRS Plugs Bush for $30 Million

2001-06-22 Thread Tim Bousquet
See Salon story at http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/06/21/letter/index.html I got this email from a reader today: Hi Tim; Good story in Salon today that briefly includes Wally [Herger, our Congressman]. Evidently the Republicans introduced a bill that would spend $30

Mobilization

2001-06-22 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 6:28 PM +0100 6/22/01, Mark Jones wrote: The 'first practical problems' you face in truth are the complete unrealisability of and utopian hopelessness of the programme you propose. The first practical problem anywhere these days is to unite mobilize disparate organizers movements behind a

Re: Re: Current implications for South Africa

2001-06-22 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: I don't know what the biggest risk is for capitalism: Third World upheavals, financial implosion, global warming, overcapacity, or resource constraints. I think it would be very useful to think about how these various forces relate to each other. For example, could

Re: Mobilization

2001-06-22 Thread Michael Perelman
It is easy to criticize everybody else's program for change. I suspect that what is required is first an understanding, then a vision that can excite other people, and organizational skills to carry it through -- all without many resources to support the program. None of us have had any great

RE: energy prices

2001-06-22 Thread Mark Jones
Jim Devine wrote: real energy prices (the consumer price index for energy divided by the over-all CPI for urban consumers) did see a big spike from 1999 to 2000 (first 11 months), one akin to those of 1973-1974, 1978-1979, and 1979-1980 in terms of size. For those interested in seeing what

Re: Current implications for South Africa

2001-06-22 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Michael Perelman wrote: I don't know what the biggest risk is for capitalism: Third World upheavals, financial implosion, global warming, overcapacity, or resource constraints. None of the above -- the tendency to overaccumulation inherent in capitalism, supply bottlenecks created by

Re: RE: energy prices

2001-06-22 Thread Doug Henwood
Mark Jones wrote: Jim Devine wrote: real energy prices (the consumer price index for energy divided by the over-all CPI for urban consumers) did see a big spike from 1999 to 2000 (first 11 months), one akin to those of 1973-1974, 1978-1979, and 1979-1980 in terms of size. For those

Even a national democratic revolution now requires a global democratic revolution

2001-06-22 Thread Chris Burford
The following passage on China in the 20's illustrates fairly concisely the progressive role of a national democratic revolution and how this stage can prepare the ground for socialism, although not itself socialist. How can and must the question of the capitalist and socialist paths of

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: red flags

2001-06-22 Thread Margaret Coleman
Good one, Gene, but I was refering to the nineteenth century labor song Bread and Roses. It was the hook of a song sung by laboring women who said they were fighting not just for bread, but for roses too--as in more than basic subsistence. If I could remember all the lyrics, I would put them

capitalism's expansion vs. limits

2001-06-22 Thread Jim Devine
[was: Re: [PEN-L:13844] Re: Re: Current implications for South Africa] Doug Pangloss writes: may I point out one thing you didn't include - human ingenuity, and its specifically capitalist form of innovation in pursuit of profit. You list every problem and treat each as a potentially fatal

Re: relevance

2001-06-22 Thread Carrol Cox
Doug Henwood wrote: Michael Perelman wrote: I don't see biotechnology creating a wave of enthusiasm comparable to the Internet. But, to be fair, you probably wouldn't have seen the wave of enthusiasm about the Internet either. Not that anyone could, but betting against things for

Germany stumbling

2001-06-22 Thread Ian Murray
When Germany feels the chill so do we all Knock-on effect for the euro Saturday June 23, 2001 The Guardian Yesterday's business confidence figures from Germany were very worrying - not least for Wim Duisenberg and his colleagues at the European Central Bank. It is not simply a question of

WTO steps up the secrecy

2001-06-22 Thread Ian Murray
Friday, June 22, 2001 WTO panel set to rule in major U.S.-EU trade row GENEVA, June 22 (Reuters) - A World Trade Organisation (WTO) dispute panel is due to issue a ruling on Friday that diplomats say could unleash a major trade tussle -- and a huge political row -- between the European Union

Re: capitalism's expansion vs. limits

2001-06-22 Thread Michael Perelman
Without disagreeing with Jim D., I would add that ingenuity that Marx mentions also adds to the problem of excess capacity. What Marx teaches (among other things) is that you cannot just focus on one side of the equation. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University

Re: Re: Current implications for South Africa

2001-06-22 Thread Michael Perelman
Yoshie is absolutely correct. Marx accurately argued that capitalism would fail when people rejected it because it cannot adjust to allow society to meet its potential. The passages that Mark (not Marx) quoted from the Grundrisse are among my favorites, because they make the case that

WTO secrecy update

2001-06-22 Thread Ian Murray
Friday June 22 9:01 PM ET WTO Ruling Raises Heat in EU-U.S. Dispute By Marie-Louise Moller BRUSSELS (Reuters) - World Trade Organization (news - web sites) experts ruled Friday that a U.S. tax break law violated trade rules, informed sources said, raising the threat of an explosive dispute with

Re: red flags

2001-06-22 Thread Carrol Cox
Margaret Coleman wrote: Good one, Gene, but I was refering to the nineteenth century labor song Bread and Roses. It was the hook of a song sung by laboring women who said they were fighting not just for bread, but for roses too--as in more than basic subsistence. If I could remember all

Re: red flags

2001-06-22 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Margaret Coleman wrote: Good one, Gene, but I was refering to the nineteenth century labor song Bread and Roses. It was the hook of a song sung by laboring women who said they were fighting not just for bread, but for roses too--as in more than basic subsistence. If I could remember

bread roses

2001-06-22 Thread Jim Devine
Bread and Roses As we come marching, marching in the beauty of the day, A million darkened kitchens, a thousand mill lofts gray, Are touched with all the radiance that a sudden sun discloses, For the people hear us singing: Bread and roses! Bread and roses! As we come marching, marching, we

WTO/FSC case

2001-06-22 Thread Ian Murray
U.S. Loses Trade Case To Europe WTO Export Ruling Could Cost Billions By Paul Blustein Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, June 23, 2001; Page A01 The United States lost an international trade case to the European Union yesterday that could result in the imposition of billions of dollars of

thad and intertemporal question

2001-06-22 Thread Michael Perelman
Sorry to have not responded earlier. You might try: Loewenstein, George and Richard H. Thaler. 1989. Anomalies: Intertemporal Choice. Journal of Economic Perspectives, 3: 4 (Autumn): pp. 181-93. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel.

Re: Current implications for South Africa

2001-06-22 Thread Patrick Bond
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:32:48 +0100 From: Chris Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To what extent is there still relevance in the ANC/SACP concept of the National Democratic Revolution? Concept is great. Problem is, some of the key actors are talk-left, act-right sell-outs.

RE: Re: RE: energy prices

2001-06-22 Thread Mark Jones
Doug Henwood wrote: how do you respond to the statistical point, Mark - that oil prices don't explain that much about growth rates? Hooker doesn't succeed in arguing that. How could he? Oil prices are arbitrary in any case, since there are huge concealed subsidies to the oil patch and a huge

RE: Mobilization

2001-06-22 Thread Mark Jones
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: That, too, has to be turned into an occasion to point it out as a necessary comeuppance of the decades of under-investment in infrastructure under neoliberalism through privatization deregulation. There was no under-investment in basic industries in the USSR, on the

RE: Re: Re: Current implications for South Africa

2001-06-22 Thread Mark Jones
Doug Henwood wrote: In my role as PEN-L's Dr Pangloss, may I point out one thing you didn't include - human ingenuity, This sounds more Julian Simon than Dr Pangloss, and as for what Marx wrote in Grundrisse, he also said therein: ''To the degree that labour-time -- the mere quantity of