Jim Devine
that eternal
chestnut, the we're running out of oil theory
This 'eternal chestnut' dates back at least to Marx himself, to Liebig,
Jevons and others who first talked about resource limits, including both
fossil energy and soil fertility. The problem has hardly gone away. Another
From: Mark Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:28:35 +0100
Do you even acknowledge as a problem, the global endemic energy
scarcity which has seen per capita energy consumption stagnant since 1973
and which is a very real problem precisely in those newly
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 17:11:38 -0400
From: Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The expansion of mass consumption regional linkages (in opposition
to elite consumption subordination to financial centers) under the
Bond program (if ever implemented -- but who bells
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:23:18 -0700
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't know what the biggest risk is for capitalism: Third World
upheavals, financial implosion, global warming, overcapacity, or
resource constraints. I think it would be very useful to think
From Pacifica historian Matthew Lasar...
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To: Ken Ford, Pacifica Foundation
Re: The Federal Bureau of Investigation
June 23, 2001
A message has come to my attention, purporting to come from you, in which
you ask members of the Pacifica Governing Board to
Thanks Michael. I'm on the list, though a silent member.
Part two of Hardt-Negri's Empire is a rather lofty defense of an argument
that has been around on the left for a long time. It states that all
nationalism is reactionary, both that of oppressor and oppressed nations.
While the argumentation is studded with references to obscure and not so
obscure
At 23/06/01 07:47 +, Patrick Bond wrote:
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 06:32:48 +0100
From: Chris Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To what extent is there still relevance in the ANC/SACP concept of the
National Democratic Revolution?
Concept is great. Problem is, some of the key
I thank Louis for his critique of Empire. I'm glad that he actually made
it through -- which I couldn't do because I was so digusted with it both by
the more general issues Louis hits on and by its near-total divorce from an
examination of the facts on the ground. (Negri may have an excuse since
I referred to:
that eternal
chestnut, the we're running out of oil theory
Mark Jones says:
This 'eternal chestnut' dates back at least to Marx himself, to Liebig,
Jevons and others who first talked about resource limits, including both
fossil energy and soil fertility.
Of course, Ricardo
Jim Devine wrote:
BTW, what does the petrogeological profession as a whole think of
Hubbert? what is the professional consensus on his methods and
conclusions? why should we believe him rather than others? or is he
reputable the way Milton Friedman is?
When Mark started going on about the
From J. Moore's Recommended Books section at his website
THE LEFT: A READING GUIDE
X. Looking to the Future with an Optimism of the Intellect and a Tenacity of
the Will
Edward J. McCaughan, Reinventing Revolution: The Renovation of Left
Discourse in Cuba and Mexico (Boulder: Westview Press,
Doug is probably correct that the threat of choking on oil is an impending
danger, but the oil is getting harder and harder to get. The low hanging
fruit is gone. The oil that is now being drilled in the Gulf of Mexico is
deep at the bottom of the sea. No one knows what will happen if a
Michael:
Mark may be wrong that oil will be the ultimate constraint. I suspect
water will come first -- although our economy wastes an enormous amount,
which gives us some wiggle room. In other parts of the world, the people
are note so fortunate.
Actually, it probably makes sense not to use a
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:19:57 -0700
From: Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unfortunately for Marx, his volume III theory of the rising organic
composition of capital doesn't work very well on either a theoretical or a
practical level. Not only can the capitalists
Michael Perelman wrote:
Doug is probably correct that the threat of choking on oil is an impending
danger, but the oil is getting harder and harder to get. The low hanging
fruit is gone. The oil that is now being drilled in the Gulf of Mexico is
deep at the bottom of the sea. No one knows what
At 23/06/01 12:16 -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
my point was only that Marx's theory wasn't very good. I'm not going to
get into all that argument here, but I agree with the literature's
almost-consensus. That does not mean that I reject the capitalist
tendency toward crisis, though, as I
Chris B writes:
I do not know if Jim is saying that Marx explicitly argued in Volume III
that the rising organic composition of capital led to an automatic (and
permanent) break down. A reference would be important if Jim is saying
Marx really did this, as opposed to arguing extensively from
[Robert Merton anyone?]
China Growing Uneasy About U.S. Relations
Bush's Comments Cited as Catalyst
By John Pomfret
Washington Post Foreign Service
Saturday, June 23, 2001; Page A01
BEIJING, June 22 -- China's leaders are increasingly concerned that
Washington and Beijing are headed for a
http://www.iht.com/articles/23763.html
LONDON
Economic reform is in big trouble in Latin America. The region
has a triple bane: low savings rates, high government borrowing and
debt as well as an addiction to foreign capital.
.
Argentina and Brazil tried to break that stranglehold. In 1991,
http://www.pnltv.com/fi-news.html
[and to think he used to be on the steering committee of the French
Socialist Party...]
US-EU: The Biggest Trading Elephants in the Jungle - But Will They
Behave ?
Speech by Pascal Lamy to the Economic Strategy Institute, Washington
D.C., 7 June 2001
Clyde, thank you for your kind
Constraints to Capitalist Expansion:
1) lack of aggregate demand - obviously, low demand means low sales. it
also probably means slow productivity growth, competitive weakness (for
firms, industries, sectors, nations), which feeds cumulatively back to
low demand
2) availability of credit.
Well said. The question then is do these contradictions reinforce each
other or do they cancel each other out?
On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 10:57:39PM -0500, Forstater, Mathew wrote:
Constraints to Capitalist Expansion:
1) lack of aggregate demand - obviously, low demand means low sales. it
2 definitely can be the basis for problems with 1. and 2 also does
nothing without also having 1, because you can't push on a string.
none of it matters if we have problems with 4, and many policies to
address 1 will exacerbate 4 (mindless growth uses up more resources and
creates more pollution,
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