sawicky on lind

2001-08-23 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
A few replies to Sawicky, Featherstone, Henwood and Bond. Sawicky first. Sawicky on Lind mbs argues that lind not a racist because he tolerates all around miscegenation within US borders. mbs labels me an irresponsible hysteric for calling lind a social imperialist, nativist and racist

OMB Budget Review (pdf)

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Pugliese
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/transcripts/omb_2002budget.p df

featherstone on sweatshops

2001-08-23 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Liza asked me to forward this. - Doug] Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:45:13 -0400 From: Liza Featherstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Though my name has dropped out of these tirades, I co-authored the articles that this person attributes to Doug. These posts reflect a lack of specific knowledge about the

henwood on sweatshops

2001-08-23 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Henwood wrote: Michael Perelman wrote, quoting a comprador Third World trade minister writing under the name Rakesh Bhandari: And thereby revealed that he still refuses to recognize that it's not just third world trade ministers, neo liberal economists and the big bourgeoisie which

I said, Stop Gloating!

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Keaney
Tory civil war erupts * Major savages Thatcher * Tebbit savages Clarke * Clarke savages Duncan Smith Nicholas Watt, political correspondent Thursday August 23, 2001 The Guardian A ferocious round of internal Tory bloodletting was unleashed yesterday when John Major intervened in the

Guardian commentary on punk Thatcherism

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Keaney
He had to stop her As seen by John Major and correspondents of the rightwing press Julian Glover Thursday August 23, 2001 The Guardian John Major is fortunate that his interpretation of the Conservative party's recent history hangs together. Otherwise his intervention in his party's

Earlier humanitarian intervention

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Keaney
Allied bombers chose 'easy' German targets Richard Norton-Taylor Thursday August 23, 2001 The Guardian Britain and the US bombed small towns in Germany in the final stages of the second world war because they would burn easily and not because they were strategically important, documents found

Corporate welfare state

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Keaney
PFI projects buoy Balfour Beatty BENEFITS SHOWING FROM RESTRUCTURING: Financial Times, Aug 16, 2001 By CHARLES BATCHELOR Government-funded private finance projects underpinned a growing proportion of first-half profits at Balfour Beatty, the engineering and construction group. Underlying

Hello world

2001-08-23 Thread Resende Manuel
Dear friends, I've just subscribed to this list and would like to present myself. Name: Manuel Resende, friends call me Manel. Age: 53 I'm portuguese and work as a translator for the EU. I've published some books of poetry. I do not intend to post many messages, since i'm not an economist and

Re: deconstruction science

2001-08-23 Thread Resende Manuel
Steve Diamond wrote: In any case, let's look at what Maurer himself says: since he thinks finance discourse is not understandable on its own terms - Securitization, thus, is not obvious or self-evident - he is here to tell us what is really going on - and THAT is the fundamental conceit behind

WB

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Keaney
Ian Murray reports: The September/October issue of Foreign Policy carries an investigative piece that is sharply critical of World Bank President James D. Wolfensohn's style of personalized management and costly embrace of trendy ideas. = Such trendy ideas include the notion that Cuban

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Open government vs. capital shortage

2001-08-23 Thread Rob Schaap
Michael Perelman wrote: I was only responding to Rob, whom I [mistakenly?] thought was suggesting such a possibility -- not predicting anything. Just quoting some thoughtful people's ideas and trying, in an admittedly amateurish way, to tie them together into the narrative that most

Re: sawicky on lind

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Perelman
The first thing I do is to look at the headings of my mail to see who has written. I have not read anything yet, but the headings that I see trouble me. Rakesh sent in three posts, each with a person in the heading. I hope that what I find is not going to be overly personal. -- Michael

Re: WB

2001-08-23 Thread Patrick Bond
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:34:57 +0300 From: Michael Keaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Wolfensohn really is inflicting such damage on the World Bank, should he not get some sort of PEN-L award in recognition? Nah. Since whatever excellent destruction of that institution's esprit

Committee for Justice in Palestine

2001-08-23 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Here's the website of the Committee for Justice in Palestine: http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/cjp.html. This is the first webpage I made, so naturally it's a simple one, but I hope it's serviceable for the time being. Any comments will be appreciated. Also, please send me any relevant

RE: sawicky on lind

2001-08-23 Thread Max Sawicky
RK: A few replies to Sawicky, Featherstone, Henwood and Bond. . . . There has been and will be no dialogue between me and babbling trust fund babies, except for this: Rakesh, if you moved out of your parents' house and got a job, it might clear your head. At the very least, it would be a

Re: henwood on sweatshops

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Perelman
This is very unfruitful. Yes, Rakesh, Doug's response to your initial post was not polite, but your initial post was far from respectful. Look how your write about how he refuses to recognize When will Henwood recognize As I asked you a few weeks ago, please try to communicate in a less

Intellectual property and YOU

2001-08-23 Thread Eugene Coyle
Today's front page column in the Wall St. Journal is on intellectual property. It emphasizes how seriously the ruling class takes the issue. "Next week some of the nation's brightest minds will gather at ... Jackson Hole to grapple with how intellectual-property businesses are changing the

Re: sawicky on lind

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Perelman
Rakesh, as I understand this thread, Max said something good about Lind, then you attacked him personally because Lind favors restriction of immigration, when that subject was extraneous to what Max praised in Lind. My recollection might be wrong. If so, I apologize. What Max wrote in

Re: RE: sawicky on lind

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Perelman
Yes, it is personal. Please let this thread die an ignoble death. On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 10:35:08AM -0400, Max Sawicky wrote: RK: A few replies to Sawicky, Featherstone, Henwood and Bond. . . . There has been and will be no dialogue between me and babbling trust fund babies, except

silence assent

2001-08-23 Thread Doug Henwood
Liza Featherstone I have both decided that it's best not to respond to Rakesh's posts, which seem motivated more by personal hostility than genuine political content. Please don't mistake our silence for assent. Doug

Re: Re: sawicky on lind

2001-08-23 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Rakesh, as I understand this thread, Max said something good about Lind, right. something about how lind was against protectionism for the overclass, e.g., tenure. then you attacked him personally because Lind favors restriction of immigration,

Re: Re: henwood on sweatshops

2001-08-23 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This is very unfruitful. Yes, Rakesh, Doug's response to your initial post was not polite, but your initial post was far from respectful. Look how your write about how he refuses to recognize When will Henwood recognize Oh, a lecture about

Re: silence assent

2001-08-23 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Liza Featherstone I have both decided that it's best not to respond to Rakesh's posts, which seem motivated more by personal hostility than genuine political content. Please don't mistake our silence for assent. Doug My posts can't be motivated

Re: Intellectual property and YOU

2001-08-23 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Gene, Actually, some of the brightest minds are on PEN-L Well, I ain't one of 'em, but will start the ball rolling with what I take to be the standard leftie scenario. and we should be laying out policy options for the world. Yeah, but I'm sure Jackson Hole ain't about doing the

Overly pessimistic view ?

2001-08-23 Thread Charles Brown
Of course, workers and the poor are the main victims of bad times. CB ((( From In Defense of Marxism website (Grant-Woods) It's still getting worse The last time I commented on the state of the US and world economy was in May. The piece was called: The worst is yet to come. It's

Re: Re: silence assent

2001-08-23 Thread Stephen E Philion
If I read the last series of posts a few weeks back from the USAS mtg. correcdtly, one thing stood out re: strategy, namely the intent to work on sweatshop struggles that unions are currently engaged in, be they in the States or abroad. In your schema, the US unions and/or college based

Re: Re: silence assent

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Perelman
Please, one of the no-no's on the list is demanding that someone answers another's challenge/question, etc.. On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 08:20:08AM -0700, Rakesh Bhandari wrote: Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Liza Featherstone I have both decided that it's best not to respond to

Re: Re: Re: sawicky on lind

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Perelman
I just answered Rakesh off list, not realizing that he sent a note to the list also. Look, Rakesh, we cannot have this sort of personal attack here. Please, as I said before, I mentioned that you can make constructive points, but you must do it without the invective. This is a place for

Re: Re: Re: silence assent

2001-08-23 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Stephen E Philion [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If I read the last series of posts a few weeks back from the USAS mtg. correcdtly, one thing stood out re: strategy, namely the intent to work on sweatshop struggles that unions are currently engaged in, be they in the States or abroad. In your

WB/IMF reconstructing capitalism yet again- !!??

2001-08-23 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/22/01 04:17PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/22/01 02:12PM (( CB: Since it was bailed out when it lost its bet, LTCM was taking zero risk. It was the opposite of a high risk taker , yet it is rewarded the most of all because it claims to take risk.

Re: Re: silence assent

2001-08-23 Thread Doug Henwood
Stephen E Philion wrote: If I read the last series of posts a few weeks back from the USAS mtg. correcdtly, one thing stood out re: strategy, namely the intent to work on sweatshop struggles that unions are currently engaged in, be they in the States or abroad. In your schema, the US unions

Many State Treasuries Are Running Dry

2001-08-23 Thread Stephen E Philion
Aug. 23, 2001 Many State Treasuries Are Running Dry By DAVID A. LIEB .c The Associated Press JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (Aug. 23) - Some foster children here may no longer get state aid. A new prison stands completed but empty. And the fountains outside the state Capitol temporarily ran dry. All of

Re: WB/IMF reconstructing capitalism yet again- !!??

2001-08-23 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Charles Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] CB: If ex post it didn't take the risk, then it didn't take the risk. The ex ante risk was an illusion. === No. That's too teleological and smacks of post hoc ergo prompter hoc CB: The philosophical ,

more re intellectual property

2001-08-23 Thread Eugene Coyle
Breaking patents -- things fall apart. You know your Yeats. Today's WSJ carries another important story re the intellectual property discussion -- and one which, among others, has put the topic on the agenda in Jackson Hole. The threatening story to Greenspan, Summers, et. al. is that Brazil

Re: Monetary Policy

2001-08-23 Thread Jim Devine
At 12:28 PM 8/22/01 -0400, you wrote: there was recently a whole article produced by Goldman Sachs (The Un-Godley Private Sector Deficit, US Economics Analyst, 27 July) where they were trying to argue precisely the opposite: that of course things are not rosy, but that a recovery would follow

Re: Political Economy of Music

2001-08-23 Thread Ann Li
Jacques Attali's book NOISE: The Political Economy of Music - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:09 AM Subject: [PEN-L:16183] Political Economy of Music Penners, Does any good work exist on the political economy of

Re: Re: Re: silence assent

2001-08-23 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Henwood wrote: Student anti-sweatshop activists are opposed to protectionism and to boycotts. Well they may not recognize as protectionist what other trade unionists do. Moreover, the students don't seem to have yet put this to a vote or put it in writing. They haven't formally

Strike!

2001-08-23 Thread Ian Murray
[Aren't a lot of these guys lawyers?] [NYT] AUG 23, 2001 Officials in N.F.L. Consider Job Action By MIKE FREEMAN National Football League referees have become so frustrated by what they feel is the league's arrogant stance during negotiations for a new collective bargaining agreement that a

Brookings Inst. on Humanitarian Intervention/NATO Deployment toMacedonia

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Pugliese
(TOMPAINE.com: Nixon: Do the Tapes Tell the Full Story? ... fact, some of Nixon's advisers had at ... any action against Brookings at the very ... Buchanan and Charles Colson, the originator of ... cockamamie fire bomb plot, were ... www.tompaine.com/history/1999/10/20/ NameBase Search Results

Panopticon update

2001-08-23 Thread Ian Murray
[NYT] August 23, 2001 ECONOMIC SCENE Good Monitors Make for Better Contracts By HAL R. VARIAN BEFORE 1998, video rental stores bought tapes from distributors for about $70 each. Because the tapes were so expensive, the stores bought relatively few of them, with the result that customers had to

Monetary Policy

2001-08-23 Thread Alex Izurieta
Jim wrote: is the G-S article on-line? where is your web-site? === Alex reaction: The Un-Godley private Sector Deficit was the central article of the US Economics Analyst , 27 July, which is produced by the 'GS Financial Workbench' and is distributed to *subscribers*. I guess that one

Oops ! Bush blew the surplus ? That quick !?

2001-08-23 Thread Charles Brown
Is this the Reaganite game of running a deficit as an excuse to cut social programs ( what few are left ) ? Is this a way to destroy Social Security, the last bastion of the New Deal ? Is Bush running the economy like a five year old driving a car ? Surely, the news is worse than what is

BLS Daily Report

2001-08-23 Thread Richardson_D
BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, AUGUST 23, 2001: The Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that both the total number of mass layoff events and the number of workers affected rose sharply during the second quarter. Extended mass layoff events -- those lasting at least 31 days --

BLS Daily Report

2001-08-23 Thread Richardson_D
BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, AUGUST 22, 2001: RELEASED TODAY: In the second quarter of 2001, there were 1,911 mass layoff actions by employers that resulted in the separation of 371,708 workers from their jobs for more than 30 days, according to preliminary figures released

RE: Oops ! Bush blew the surplus ? That quick !?

2001-08-23 Thread Max Sawicky
a. yes. saying there's no money left is a justification for spending cuts and an obstacle to new spending or to progressive tax cuts. b. no, Social Security is just fine, as long as Bush doesn't get a chance to fix it. c. no. Bush is not driving. He's in the car-seat, playing with his

Re: Re: Re: Re: silence assent

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Perelman
I do not want to have to keep monitoring this thread. It is a bad time for me. This sort of sarcasm has no please here. Please stop!!! On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 11:55:19AM -0700, Rakesh Bhandari wrote: Ah so someone like Kabeer is a bourgeois hack like Friedman? Hmm. What do you think

Forwarded from Sabri

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Perelman
New approach from Turkey on its Central Asian policy NEWS ANALYSIS Ankara - Turkish Daily News- August 23, 2001 Turkey's policies towards the Caucasus and Central Asia were widely discussed at Tuesday's National Security Council (MGK) meeting and reportedly council members agreed on starting a

more re intellectual property

2001-08-23 Thread Ian Murray
Breaking patents -- things fall apart. You know your Yeats. Today's WSJ carries another important story re the intellectual property discussion -- and one which, among others, has put the topic on the agenda in Jackson Hole. That article was a joke. I particularly liked the

Re: more re intellectual property

2001-08-23 Thread Ian Murray
Boo boo alert: If anything it's the other way around. The law determines the economy more than the economy determines the law. === I meant to say the law determines the economy more than economic theory does and where economic theory contravenes legal doctrine so much the worse for

Re: Re: more re intellectual property

2001-08-23 Thread Ian Murray
[Very apropos on the WSJ piece and the future of IPR and labor relations] Robert L. Hale, Coercion and Distribution in a Supposedly Non-Coercive State, 38 Political Science Quarterly (1923), 470-478. And while the House of Peers withholds its legislative hand, And noble statesman do not itch

Toni Negri, Profile of a Terrorist Ideologue

2001-08-23 Thread Michael Pugliese
Heh! Michael Pugliese http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2832toni_negri.html http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2832glob_terror_intro.html Teddy Goldsmith: The `Jeremy Bentham' Behind New Terrorism George Soros: Oligarchy's `Inside-Outside' Controller Peoples' Global Action Is

Up From Debt Reduction

2001-08-23 Thread Max Sawicky
http://www.populist.com/01.16.sawicky.html

Brazil deconstructs

2001-08-23 Thread Ian Murray
Defiant Brazil gives go-ahead for copies of anti-Aids drug Special report: Aids Alex Bellos in Rio de Janeiro and James Meikle Friday August 24, 2001 The Guardian Brazil has declared that it will allow generic copies of a brand-name anti-Aids drug to be made without the permission of the

Shopology

2001-08-23 Thread Ian Murray
http://argument.independent.co.uk Shopological 24 August 2001 Internal links Shopping is bad for men, claims study The purpose of academic research being to find out what we already know, a BBC programme called Shopology has commissioned a study which discovered that shopping is bad for men's

Re: WB/IMF reconstructing capitalism yet again-!!??

2001-08-23 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/23/01 01:13PM If , in fact, LTCM was not allowed to take the fall when its bet failed , then it did not take a risk initially. Risk means that a chance is taken of a negative outcome. If when the negative outcome arises, the risktaker is not required to suffer the

Re: more re intellectual property

2001-08-23 Thread Eugene Coyle
Ian Murray wrote, in part: = It's the other way around; the intellectual and other types of property rights in productive assets are a threat to the majority of the world's peoples. Ian Good point. But it is both ways. Don't forget they are reacting to us. Gene

RE: Oops ! Bush blew the surplus ? That quick !?

2001-08-23 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/23/01 04:23PM -clip- Democrats responded that the administration had squandered the surplus by pushing through an irresponsibly large tax cut, putting the government into such a squeeze that not only Democratic initiatives but Mr. Bush's own agenda, including a big

Forwarded from Harry Cleaver

2001-08-23 Thread michael perelman
Harry Cleaver responded to the earlier post about Negri. Fun stuff,huh? The Larouchites have been tracking Negri et al for years. These are the same people who argue that the Zapatistas are tools of the House of Windsor in its attempts to bring down modern industrialism and restore the glories

Mathematical Genetics

2001-08-23 Thread Ian Murray
[Didn't the genome project come in lower than previous estimates? Blast, can't find the number in Kauffman's book!] Tally of Human Genes Challenged Estimate May Be Higher Than Genome Project Predicted, Study Says By Terence Chea Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, August 24, 2001; Page A10

Hacking Wall Street

2001-08-23 Thread Ian Murray
[NYT] AUG 24, 2001 Can Hacking Victims Be Held Legally Liable? By CARL S. KAPLAN Suppose, Margaret Jane Radin of Stanford Law School wrote recently, that a Web site operated by a securities brokerage suffers a crippling attack by hackers. The ability of its customers to conduct trades is

Re: Re: Political Economy of Music

2001-08-23 Thread Ann Li
Actually Tom Streeter's last book had some nice things on BMI ASCAP and royalties. - Original Message - From: Ann Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 1:01 PM Subject: [PEN-L:16260] Re: Political Economy of Music Jacques Attali's book NOISE: The