At 16/09/01 18:43 -0500, you wrote:
>Although it seems no plane was actually shot down the plane that crashed
>would have been shot down as fighters were not that far away when it
>crashed.
This adds another unreported twist to the deadly game of guarding against
terrorism. Now a terrorist grou
US special forces 'land in Pakistan'
(09/16/2001) (Agencies)
Newspapers in Pakistan say foreign troops have already arrived in the
country.
The Nation reports a special plane carrying over two dozen foreigners landed
at the Chakala airbase.
The News quotes an eyewitness as saying he saw a
>From BBC monitoring via Johnson's Russia list:
BBC Monitoring
Afghan Northern Alliance believe US strikes will help defeat Taleban -
Russia TV
Source: Russia TV, Moscow, in Russian 1600 gmt 16 Sep 01
[Presenter] Our special correspondent Sergey Zenin has happened to be the
only Russian TV jou
This essay is excellent. It makes clear that a crucial variable in this
environment was the the emergence in the 90's of an alliance among Saudi
Arabia, the Taliban and Pakistan with some level of backing from the U.S.
because Afghanistan provided a non-Russian and non-Iranian route for oil out
o
This was sent to test my subscription to the list. I have been having some
peculiar issues which this test will hopefully clear up.
thanks,
Doyle
bin Laden comes from a rich Saudi family that owns a multi-billion dollar
construction business. He is one of 54 children. He himself has 3 wives and
over 20 children. He lost his Saudi citizenship and is not welcome to go
home! The fatwa makes it clear that killing any civilian Americans or thei
This is from the Australian Broadcasting system. bin Laden has again denied
any involvement in the attacks. As I understand it, Islam forbids both
suicide and killing the innocent. However, some authorities claim that
suicide by warriors in a jihad is an exception. I am not sure how direct
killing
[Sorry about the jagged text in the previous posting]
[submitted to marxmail by Jim Craven]
A UNANIMOUS TRIUMPH
FOR MASTERS OF WAR
By Norman Solomon
On Sept. 14, the Senate voted 98-0 for a war resolution. It says: "The
president is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force
agai
[submitted to marxmail by Jim Craven]
A UNANIMOUS TRIUMPH
FOR MASTERS OF WAR
By Norman Solomon
On Sept. 14, the Senate voted 98-0 for a war resolution. It says: "The
president is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force
against
those nations, organizations, or persons he determi
Glad this is being laid to rest. Next time we catch CNN (called,
"Communist News Network by Rep(tile) Tom deLay!) in a real lie, slam them
from here to Atlanta. But, may this be lesson #666 in not spreading
unsourced, bogus BS.
False Footaging
http://www.snopes.com/
Claim: CNN used old
Andrew wrote:
>>Finally, does the United States risk destabilization at home if this
>>"war" does not go well?
I should have written:
>yup, but it [could] go further toward fascism (for all we know).
note correction.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine
Andrew wrote:
>In one of my classes on Friday, the professor started with a discussion
>of postmodernism. He defined it as roughly the blurring and breaking of
>categories. He noted that the attacks breached the boundaries of the
>US. The boundaries of the US were never before considered vulnerabl
At 10:05 AM 09/16/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>Jim, as you know from Transcending the Economy, maintaining (relative)
>equality in war is an important part of keeping popular support.
that's what I was alluding to.
>Hitler,
>as well as later reputable scholars, thought that Germany lost the first
>wo
C'mon Comrades! JEESH! This lurker on far right lists named Michael
Pugliese has a few pointers for conspiranoia. Whenever I see, "NWO, " I say
more far right BS about the New World Order. Even if a few leftists like
Milosevic apologist Michel Chossudovsky invoke that language too. The source
o
US risks quagmire in Afghanistan - Gaddafi
By Gilles Trequesser
SOLLOUG, Libya (Reuters) - Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi has warned the
United States that it could fall into a Soviet-style quagmire in Afg
Rob, I did not find these comments on the WB site. What exactly did he
say?
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 09:42:54AM +, Rob Schaap wrote:
> G'day Michael,
>
> > Easterly, William Russell. 2001. The Elusive Quest For Growth:
> > Economists' Adventures and Misadventures in the Tropics
> > (Cambrid
You probably misunderstood Tim. I am sure he meant to ask if Bush spoke
English.
On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 06:50:19PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Tim asked:
>
> > Does Musharraf speak English?
>
> Yes, he does. Better than I do. "These Americans are so ignorant, they don't
> know anything
Although it seems no plane was actually shot down the plane that crashed
would have been shot down as fighters were not that far away when it
crashed.
Cheers, Ken Hanly
Cheney said today on Meet the Press that immediately after the attacks last
Tuesday, Bush ordered U.S. military pilots to shoot
G'day Michael,
> Easterly, William Russell. 2001. The Elusive Quest For Growth:
> Economists' Adventures and Misadventures in the Tropics
> (Cambridge:
> MIT Press) ... One thing I admire about
> the World Bank is that it encourages gadflies like me to exercise
> intellectual freedom and doesn't
This essay is excellent. It makes clear that a crucial variable in this
environment was the the emergence in the 90's of an alliance among Saudi
Arabia, the Taliban and Pakistan with some level of backing from the U.S.
because Afghanistan provided a non-Russian and non-Iranian route for oil out
o
Someone recently posted a note about the World Bank investigating
William Easterly because it disapproved of some of his writings.
I just picked up his book:
Easterly, William Russell. 2001. The Elusive Quest For Growth:
Economists' Adventures and Misadventures in the Tropics
(Cambridge:
MIT Pres
Tim asked:
> Does Musharraf speak English?
Yes, he does. Better than I do. "These Americans are so ignorant, they don't
know anything", used to say my grandmother back in those good old days.
Just kidding Tim,
Sabri
In these days of sorrow and confusion, maybe this can help you smile a bit:
The largest emergency expenditure in the last week has been to maintain the
global capitalist economy, and US domination of it. The sums involved are
of the order of over $100 billion.
Much of this is rational, if you accept the logic of the system without
question. But it is interesting isn't
Well in a post-modern world in which categories break down and are blurred
,where the world is sometimes called a text, it may very well be extremely
difficult to tell whether it is the concept of the dog or the dog that bites
or even what the difference between them is. And whatever it is may no
New York Times 16 SEP 2001
Despite National Emotion, There's No Rush to Enlist
By DAVID CAY JOHNSTON and AMY WALDMAN
Workers at the collapse site in Lower Manhattan greeted President
Bush by chanting "U.S.A., U.S.A.!" At memorial sites, there have been
spontaneous outbreaks of "God Bless Amer
Below are two e-mails from American students. Sabri
+
Subj:students for peace vigils and listserve
Date: 01-09-16 14:37:20 EDT
Hey All,
Peace rallies and vigils are being planned on campuses across the
country on Thursday, Sept. 20. Dozens of campuses have already signed
o
- Original Message -
From: "Institute for Public Accuracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Institute for Public Accuracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 1:05 PM
Subject: Terror Aftermath: Deeper Analysis
> Institute for Public Accuracy
> 915 National Press Building, Washi
Amidst all the media sensationalism, there have been more than a few TV
and newspaper stories that portray Muslims and Arab-Americans
sympathetically and warn against scapegoating and attacks on civil liberties
and racial profiling. This morning at my corner store run by Jordanian
emigrants wat
Bush just held a press conference. He referred to the
upcoming war against terrorism a "crusade."
He also quite obviously couldn't remember the name of
Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, although he
supposedly just got off the phone with him. Does
Musharraf speak English?
ABC news is referrin
Right now Minneapolis's Gov. Ventura is holding a vigil on the state
capital bldg. The original 'projected estimates' for the vigil were to be
"60,000". I have no idea how they came up with that 'projection'. At the
moment (2:25 CST) only 4,000 have shown up (the reason given is the
rain). So
Ken Hanly wrote:
>
> [clip]
> Cheers, Ken Hanly
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Andrew Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [clip] The boundaries of the US were never before considered vulnerable.
> > Now our concept of national boundaries is blurred. Thus, the attack is
> > postmodern.
> >
I
This is from an article in the Washington Post. The same article has
passages that show Colin Powell is much more cautious and restrained than
many others in the Bush administration. The full article is at
:http://www.msnbc.com/news/629527.asp?0si=-#BODY
Cheers, Ken Hanly
.
But terrorism i
Obviously Tajikstan does not want to provoke its own Muslim population.
Cheers Ken Hanly
strana.ru
September 16, 2001
Tajikistan did not give its consent to deployment of U.S. troops on its
territory, foreign ministry
Tajikistan does not want to be beachhead for strikes against Afghanistan
Taji
Has your prof. tried to cross the Canada-US border since Tuesday? Next class
put up your hand and ask him these questions:
1) If the concept of national boundaries are blurred how come the actual
geographical border is just the same and it is even more difficult now to
cross them?
2) Blurring of
http://www.zmag.org/wiscalam.htm
To My Baby Girl, On the Day After
By Tim Wise
I was not where I needed to be last night. Not physically, and not
emotionally. My daughter is ten weeks old. And last night, and tonight
as well, only her mother will be able to hold her, and kiss her
goodnight, and
Jim, as you know from Transcending the Economy, maintaining (relative)
equality in war is an important part of keeping popular support. Hitler,
as well as later reputable scholars, thought that Germany lost the first
world war because the sacrifices were not borne evenly enough -- of course
that
In one of my classes on Friday, the professor started with a discussion
of postmodernism. He defined it as roughly the blurring and breaking of
categories. He noted that the attacks breached the boundaries of the
US. The boundaries of the US were never before considered vulnerable.
Now our concept
Jim Devine wrote,
>I wonder if the Bushwackers will try to pull off their "sweeping,
>sustained, and effective" war against terrorism with a large reserve army
>of labor and the current degree of inequality of sacrifice.
Hard for me to imagine anyone that stupid.
Tom Walker
Bowen Island, BC
6
At 05:50 AM 09/16/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>And it ain't just the security guards, folks. Winner-take-all income
>polarization and just-in-time labour flexibility are manpower mobilization
>strategies that haven't yet proven themselves in war. Same thing with golden
>parachutes for generals getting
(Non-list addresses are BCC'd )
In reply to another Rad-Green listmember who believes we need to scale back our
demands/actions in face of what is coming- stating that we have no real power
based on the situation (as it currently is) here and in America. Retired US Army
Veteran-come radical Stan
Lawrence wrote:
>> I say, go shopping. It's obvious that the terrorists were intent on
>> disrupting the biggest, most powerful economy on Earth.
>
>I assume this is some kind of parody. I find it in very bad taste. The WTC
>bombing is a horrible subject for this kind of campy humor.
There was a
Communism List:
http://homepage.eircom.net/~kampf/
Workers of the world unite!
___
It seems to be that the US is planning to bomb Afghanistan, already in a
devastated condition, back to the pre-glacial age. My guess is that Bush is
going to carpet bomb, even us
At 16/09/01 00:52 -0400, you wrote:
>Friends,
>
>Have a look at the petition below and sign it if you think appropriate.
>
>Best,
>Sabri Oncu
>
>http://www.thePetitionSite.com/takeaction/224622495
Thanks Sabri
The slogan is well judged.
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