Sabri Oncu wrote,
Um, as soon as we can figure out whether
God does or does not exist...
Ian
My dear Ian,
This problem is not that difficult. I solved it when I was 14. I
realized that there was no difference between believing in the
existence or non-existence of God.
Sabri has
G'day Tom'n'Sabri,
Sabri has framed the issue correctly. Both are beliefs. For the same
reason
as Sabri, I believe in God but not in a God or gods. The distinction
is
crucial. There IS a difference between believing in God and believing
in a
God or the God. God is a unique part of speech
On the necessity of socialism
by Doug Henwood
22 February 2002 05:30 UTC
Sabri Oncu wrote:
P.S: Any forecasts on when we will be able to solve this
transformation problem?
Never. It was a ruse devised by the bourgeoisie to occupy the
attention of otherwise smart and knowledgeable Marxian
Rob wrote,
To avoid confusion, though, I'd not call it God
-snip-
The famous last sentence of the Tractatus - What we cannot speak about
we must pass over in silence
This suggests to me that as much as I sympathize with the aim of avoiding
confusion, confusion cannot be avoided. That
Critical Perspectives on Wars, Classes, Empires
Death's Dream Kingdom: the American Culture after 911
Speaker: Walter Davis
About the Speaker: Walter Davis is a professor of English at the Ohio
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In fact, one might say that
the linguistic function of God is precisely to stand as other to all
the
common parts of speech and thus to remind us of the incompleteness,
the
inadequacy of any conceivable utterance. God is the
[Maybe I should sue because of violation of my intellectual property rights
(see http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/faculty/jdevine/talks/ESTalk020502.htm) ;-)
... still, this is a pretty good article.]
New York TIMES/February 22, 2002
The W Scenario
By PAUL KRUGMAN
First comes the victory parade. Later
Any forecasts on when we will be able to solve this
transformation problem?
the transformation of capitalism into socialism?
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
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Rev. Tom writes: Sabri has framed the issue correctly. Both are beliefs.
For the same reason as Sabri, I believe in God but not in a God or gods.
I was raised as a Unitarian, a faith that believes that there exists at
most
Any forecasts on when we will be able to solve this
transformation problem?
I have a most marvellous solution to this one, but it will not quite fit
into this margin ...
dd
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The POCLAD movement is slowly building, based on the long-term strategy of
Richard Grossman.
To me it is the most appealing campaign for democracy within capitalism.
Everything else, including most of what I do, isn't so promising.
The POCLAD book which Michael mentions is DEFYING CORPORATIONS,
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In the spirit of Sabri Oncu's cheerleading the one I like best is
Go Reds, beat State.
Gene Coyle
Ian Murray wrote:
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Go Marxian economists, Go!
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Um, as soon as we can figure out whether God does or
In response to Doug's (tongue-in-cheek?) comment
Never. It was a ruse devised by the bourgeoisie to occupy the
attention of otherwise smart and knowledgeable Marxian economists on
something addictively divisive but politically irrelevant.
Charles writes
Charles: Isn't it worse than that ?
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The POCLAD movement is slowly building, based on the long-term
strategy of
Richard Grossman.
To me it
On 22 Feb 02, at 8:23, Devine, James wrote:
[*]Economic theory suggests that we shouldn't be concerned only with the
existence of god but also its stability and uniqueness. As is the god of
2002 the same as the one of 1999? Just as the real GDP of 2002 isn't
strictly speaking comparable to
In a message dated 2/20/2002 2:37:31 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On the necessity of socialism
Author: Sam Webb, national chairman, Communist Party USA
People's Weekly World Newspaper, Feb 16, 2002
During the CPUSA's pre-convention period about a year ago, we had a
http://www.columbialawreview.org/pdf/Rowland.pdf
Not so fast Sparky.
http://www.epinet.org/Issuebriefs/ib175.html
http://www.epinet.org/webfeatures/econindicators/jobspict.html
http://www.epinet.org/briefingpapers/bp121.html
mbs
[Maybe I should sue because of violation of my intellectual
property rights
(see
Devine, James wrote:
Of course, we also have to remember Sabri's L scenario.
Hey, if we're talking intellectual property, this is what I wrote last May:
LUV song. But we're back to the question from 1,700 words ago: if no
boom, what next?
Debate on this issue boils down into a letter
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The POCLAD movement is slowly building, based on the long-term
strategy of
Richard Grossman.
To me it
Jim Devine wrote,
As far as I can tell, there's no logical argument either for or against the
existence of god.
I agree absolutely there's no logical argument for or against. My own
position is based entirely and radically on grammar.
Tom Walker
Actually, neoclassical general equilibrium economists have proved
that God exists. The tatonnement auctioneer! All knowing,
capable of millions of decisions instantaniously, does not need to
be paid to exist, and able to determine the future in perpetuity.
Sounds like God to me.
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Subject: [PEN-L:23078] Re: on the necessity of god, goddess, gods,
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Jim Devine wrote,
As far as I can tell, there's no
Indeed, there is an argument against the existence of god, the one of Claude
Bernard to Napoleon: this hypothesis is of no use.
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Recovery Signs Don't Include CEOs
By Michael McKee
Washington, Feb. 22 (Bloomberg) -- While economists are looking
for a more rapid U.S. recovery than they were a month ago, chief
executives at Wal-Mart Stores Inc., Dell Computer Corp., Eaton
Corp. and most of the biggest companies don't see
RELEASED TODAY: Annual average unemployment rates rose in more than half the
states in 2001 for the first time since 1992, the Bureau of Labor Statistics
reported today. The four census regions and nine geographical divisions all
recorded rate increases. Employment-population ratios declined in
Are you saying that Enron was in the God marketing biz?
Paul Phillips wrote:
Actually, neoclassical general equilibrium economists have proved
that God exists. The tatonnement auctioneer! All knowing,
capable of millions of decisions instantaniously, does not need to
be paid to exist, and
And yet as brutal, raw and violent as it was, it didn't threaten the very future of humankind and the planet. Rosa Luxembourg said that the choices facing humanity at that time were either socialism or barbarism, but even the brilliant Rosa did not anticipate the new dangers that are in store
Max, I don't understand your point. It sounds like PK is leaning in the EPI
direction on this one.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
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To: [EMAIL
no i meant you weren' t the only one w/claims to pre-K
vision.
mbs
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I'll have to call my lawyer and cancel the lawsuit...
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
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I'll have to call my lawyer and cancel the lawsuit...
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was raised as a Unitarian, a faith that believes that there exists at
most one god (and argues about whether or not to capitalize). So my
question: is why believe in the existence or non-existence of god?[*] why
not simply express ignorance on this
I had not heard about the new cpi method that is about to be used. I just
saw the notice in yesterday's WSJ. Has this been totally off the radar
screen?
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From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was raised as
Is someone suing Krugman for writing a puff-piece about Enron?
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
That'll be $8million please.
Enron Bankruptcy Lawyers' Bill: $8 Million
By Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, February 22, 2002;
[was RE: [PEN-L:23070] Re: On the necessity of socialism]
I'm very tired, so I can't think about concrete/empirical stuff. So...
Gil writes:Depends on what you think the transformation problem refers
to. As I read Marx, the problem, as he posed it in Chapter 9 of Volume
III, lies in showing
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Is someone suing Krugman for writing a puff-piece about Enron?
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael Perelman wrote:
I had not heard about the new cpi method that is about to be used. I just
saw the notice in yesterday's WSJ. Has this been totally off the radar
screen?
It's been clear for a long time that the BLS has largely gone along
with the Boskin stuff, despite protestations of
The Times of India
FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 22, 2002
China leads as Asian advertising defies downturn
AFP
SINGAPORE: China, Asia's largest consumer market, defied the effects of a
global recession by posting stronger-than-expected advertising growth in
2001, according to a regional survey released on
Doug wrote:
Devine, James wrote:
Of course, we also have to remember Sabri's L scenario.
Hey, if we're talking intellectual property, this is what I
wrote last May.
Friends,
I have not paid any attention to PEN-L until late in the
afternoon and look what happened. It is not good to talk
Michael Perelman writes:
I had not heard about the new cpi method that is about to be used. I
just saw the notice in yesterday's WSJ. Has this been totally off the radar
screen?
Doug writes:
It's been clear for a long time that the BLS has largely gone along
with the Boskin stuff, despite
Statistics Canada has a free study in PDF format at:
There has been a dramatic decrease of 30% in the net worth of younger
families during this period among other things. Many young families
apparently carry huge debt loads.
http://www.statcan.ca/english/research/11F0019MIE/11F0019MIE01187.pdf
I thought Time played that role in the Timeworks philosophy. By the way
God is a noun-- sharing this grammatical feature with Time But perhaps
this is part of your humor or animal spirits. I dont know. Where is the
commandment laid down that a noun must have a definite or indefinite article
A New Era - A New Doctrine II
The teaching of Karl Marx and Frederick Engels is all-powerful because it
is true. Marx was a genius because he was able before anyone else to abstract
from all the writings of history the law system that governed changes in
society. Using the law system he
RE
It's been clear for a long time that the BLS has largely gone along
with the Boskin stuff . . .
I imagine that the behavior of the BLS towards revising (sic) the CPI
changed once Katherine Abraham left as head of the BLS.
Her term expired in about September 2001. I bet no one in the
In a message dated 2/21/2002 3:10:30 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I present summary of article “Engels’ Edition of the Third Volume of
Capital and Marx's original Manuscript”by Michael Heinrich in
“ScienceSociety” Vol. 60 no.4(1996-1997;TheGuilford Press) In fear of
Maybe Dave Richardson has something to add.
February 21, 2002
Labor Department to Publish
A New Consumer Price Index
New Measure Will Address Concerns
That the CPI Is Overstating Inflation
By GREG IP
Greetings Economists,
Tom writes about the value of knowing one way (believing in religion) or the
other (being an atheist not believing there is a god) about God.
--
Tom 22 February 2002 21:19 UTC quotes,
Jim Devine wrote,
As far as I can tell,
Title: Re: [PEN-L:23105] Re: Marx's Capital manuscript
ON 2002.02.23 03:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] AT [EMAIL PROTECTED] WROTE:
IN A MESSAGE DATED 2/21/2002 3:10:30 PM CENTRAL STANDARD TIME, [EMAIL PROTECTED] WRITES:
I PRESENT SUMMARY OF ARTICLE $B!H(JENGELS$B!G(J EDITION OF THE THIRD
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