Re: Reductionism

2003-08-23 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Mm. Lots of metaphorical, associative, and inferential processes in your propositions above. I won't go into the problems with the binaries you mention:-) Agreed. It's just a sketch anyway. Another useful function of metaphors is to summarise very quickly a theme, topic or problematic

frontiers of one-upmanship

2003-08-23 Thread Eubulides
[mirror, mirror, on the wall, who's the biggest protection racket of them all???] [New York Times] August 23, 2003 U.S. Wants Foreign Leaders' Laundered Assets By ERIC LICHTBLAU WASHINGTON, Aug. 22 - Federal officials have developed a plan to seize financial assets laundered into the

Re: frontiers of one-upmanship

2003-08-23 Thread andie nachgeborenen
Yeah, I thoughtthis is graet. We put in in power, then when they get caught, we take what they stole. Don't the Nicaraguans deserve the proceeds of Aleman's robberies? jks --- Eubulides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [mirror, mirror, on the wall, who's the biggest protection racket of them

Re: frontiers of one-upmanship

2003-08-23 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: andie nachgeborenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] frontiers of one-upmanship Yeah, I thoughtthis is graet. We put in in power, then when they get caught, we take what they stole. Don't

Re: Reductionism/Immortality

2003-08-23 Thread joanna bujes
Jurriaan Bendien wrote: I suppose the ultimate human goal is the realisation of immortality, i.e. the extension of human life in perpetuity, which assumes a love of human life, a love of being human in any possible way. It may be the ultimate egotistic goal, but I don't know that I would call it

Re: Reductionism/Immortality

2003-08-23 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Dearest Joanna, I honestly and firmly believe that what you say here is bunk. But I will do you the honour of investigating it some more. After all, one could be wrong, and language has its limitations, does it not ? I am fully aware, that sublime contemplations of immortality seem rather

Shades of Orwell: the BBC reports on a culture war

2003-08-23 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
'Tourists' fail Beatles quiz Six Brazilians have been turned away by immigration officials at Heathrow Airport after failing a quiz about the Beatles. The group said they were on their way to Liverpool's Mathew Street Festival this weekend, which celebrates the lives of the Fab Four. Reports say

Re: Reductionism/Immortality

2003-08-23 Thread Carrol Cox
Jurriaan Bendien wrote: Dearest Joanna, I honestly and firmly believe that what you say here is bunk. But I will do you the honour of investigating it some more. After all, one could be wrong, and language has its limitations, does it not ? I'm not sure what you are talking about -- and in

Re: Reductionism/Immortality

2003-08-23 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
I'm not sure what you are talking about -- and in particular, the hotel allegory is obscure. Ever deconstructed the word obscure ? But Homer would have agreed with Joanna. The lives of the gods (immortals) are meaningless, because it is their mortality that gives meaning to human lives. We

Re: Shades of Orwell: the BBC reports on a culture war

2003-08-23 Thread Kenneth Campbell
BBC News reports: They actually made people sing Beatles songs. That should be a scene from a Terry Gilliam movie... a creepy, Brazil-style setting at an airport... EXT. ESTABLISH SHOT Futuristic airport. Echoey footsteps can be heard as jets take off and land. INT. LONG WHITE-GLOWING HALL

Reductionism/Immortality

2003-08-23 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Anyway, I what you say is corect, and Homer thinks that the lives of the Gods are meaningless, then why does he keep on writing about them ? What concept of signification does Homer have ? If I was to go around Greece saying things like Homer thinks that the lives of the Gods are meaningless the

The political economy of culture wars, Part 2: the fab whirld quiz game: who wrote it ? Was it the Beatles ? or was it Chuckberry ?

2003-08-23 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Let me tell you bout a girl I know, I met her walking down an uptown street ! She's so fine, I wish she was mine, I shook up every time we meet... Talkin bout you (nobody but you baby), Nobody but you (yes you all the time), I do mean you (yeah my baby), Just trying to get a message to you ! Let

The Dutch Socialist Party attacked: SP member allegedly complicit in Tart protest against Pim Fortuyn

2003-08-23 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Socialist Party Member paid for tart action against Pim Fortuyn [?] The Hague, Saturday - The affair around the throwing of tarts [i.e. gateaux, cakes] at politician Pim Fortuyn, on 14 March last year in Nieuwspoort, is having political repercussions. The youths who fouled Fortuyn appear to have

As regards Homer, or the difference between polytheism and political pluralism and logical paraconsistency

2003-08-23 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
This formulation I found on a mythography site is well formulated: In these works of Homer [i.e. the Illiad and the Odyssey], relationships between mortals and immortals are established, and the very character and attributes of the gods and goddesses are codified. Source:

Capitalism, slavery and the Brenner thesis

2003-08-23 Thread Louis Proyect
A couple of months ago when the Marxism list was debating whether chattel slavery was capitalist, Rakesh Bhandari called my attention to an article by Charles Post in the July 2003 Journal of Agrarian Change (http://www.marxmail.org/post.pdf) that applied the Brenner thesis to the peculiar