Re: RS

2004-03-19 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 12:07 PM Frankly, I don't think it is of much use to have such debates/discussions at all. They certainly don't take place on Marxmail, which has certain assumptions in place. I wrote some comments on the SSC but perhaps should have not cc'd pen-l where they would

Re: Camejo Takes the Lead/Green Party Likes Nader

2004-03-19 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/17/04 1:43 AM I did vote for him in 2000 (in Calif.); his silence since the last election has been deafening. I will not vote for him again. If I'm going to throw away a vote I'd rather give it to Camejo or a socialist candidate. Joanna remember: electoral college,

2 ENCUENTRO MUNDIAL DE SOLIDARIDAD CON LA REVOLUCION BOLIVARIANA

2004-03-19 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Please do all you can to attend El II Encuentro. If you are a journalist, please cover the event -- if you do not speak Spanish and need an English-speaking Venezuelan interviewee, contact Dozthor Zurlent [EMAIL PROTECTED]. * From: 2 ENCUENTRO MUNDIAL DE SOLIDARIDAD CON LA REVOLUCION

4th century religious wars in miniature

2004-03-19 Thread Michael Pollak
[Life imitates Onion dept.] http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-3876471,00.html Thursday March 18, 2004 7:31 PM STATESBORO, Ga. (AP) - A couple was arrested after their argument over a theological point turned physical following a night at the movies to see ``The Passion of the

Intro books/article on equilibrium

2004-03-19 Thread Bill Lear
A co-worker of mine is interested in equilibrium theory. I have a few books at home I plan on lending him, but thought folks here might have some good suggestions for reading. Suggestions welcome. Thanks. Bill

Re: Intro books/article on equilibrium

2004-03-19 Thread Devine, James
In order to understand equilibrium, one must understand disequilibrium: what about Kaldor's ECONOMICS WITHOUT EQUILIBRIUM? -Original Message- From: Bill Lear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 3/19/2004 7:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:

Vampire capitalism

2004-03-19 Thread Louis Proyect
Capital is dead labor, which, vampire-like, lives only by sucking living labor, and lives the more, the more labor it sucks. --Karl Marx, Capital, vol. 1, ch. 10 === NY Times Op-Ed, March 19, 2004 Only Machines Need Apply By TODD BUCHHOLZ SAN DIEGO The gross domestic product is going up, but

Re: Intro books/article on equilibrium

2004-03-19 Thread Robert Scott Gassler
Dear Bill, Here are some suggestions, based on things I've done in general equilibrium theory and comparative economic systems. Original text: Walras Elements of Pure Economics. Note: A Frenchman told me recently that the word auctioneer is a bad translation. The French word is secretaire or

Re: Vampire capitalism

2004-03-19 Thread Robert Scott Gassler
and Gary Becker thinks human beings are live capital. Why does everything have to be something else? At 10:35 19/03/04 -0500, you wrote: Capital is dead labor, which, vampire-like, lives only by sucking living labor, and lives the more, the more labor it sucks. --Karl Marx, Capital, vol. 1,

Iraq one year later

2004-03-19 Thread Marvin Gandall
The Economist is no longer convinced the invasion of Iraq was worthwhile, and reflects on the contradictory effects which make the outcome for the country and region so uncertain. Despite the shocking clumsiness of the occupation and resulting violence and insecurity, it cites polls showing most

Re: Intro books/article on equilibrium

2004-03-19 Thread Gil Skillman
Bill, Which type of equilibrium? Competitive or non-competitive? Cooperative or noncooperative game-theoretic? Static or dynamic? Gil A co-worker of mine is interested in equilibrium theory. I have a few books at home I plan on lending him, but thought folks here might have some good

Re: Camejo Takes the Lead/Green Party Likes Nader

2004-03-19 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/17/04 7:30 AM At 10:20 PM -0500 3/16/04, Michael Hoover wrote: geez, nader could draw 2 activists and he'd top what i'd draw Well, you look adorable in a prequel to _The Blair Witch Project_. :- At 10:20 PM -0500 3/16/04, Michael Hoover wrote: but do activists really need

Re: Intro books/article on equilibrium

2004-03-19 Thread Bill Lear
On Friday, March 19, 2004 at 10:28:02 (-0500) Gil Skillman writes: Bill, Which type of equilibrium? Competitive or non-competitive? Cooperative or noncooperative game-theoretic? Static or dynamic? I should have mentioned that this is for a non-specialist, non-economist. He is interested in

Re: Vampire capitalism

2004-03-19 Thread Devine, James
Robert Scott Gassler writes: and Gary Becker thinks human beings are live capital. Why does everything have to be something else? I hate to defend Becker, but he was simply thinking using analogies (metaphors, similies, etc.) That's what much of (most of?) thinking is. That's what _all_ of

Re: giving up?

2004-03-19 Thread Devine, James
I don't understand this. Ian had replied to what I said. I assumed that he was referring to my opinions. I tried to convince him that (what I saw as ) his description of my opinions was inaccurate. (I still don't get why anyone would think I was authoritarian.) I tried to be as specific

Re: Nader Drawing 7% (Camejo Takes the Lead/Green Party Likes Nader)

2004-03-19 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/17/04 7:51 AM Nader is now drawing 7 percent of the votes in a nationwide telephone poll of 1,206 adults, including 984 registered voters . . . taken from last Wednesday through Sunday (Adam Nagourney and Janet Elder, Nation's Direction Prompts Voters' Concern, Poll Finds,

'human capital

2004-03-19 Thread Devine, James
[was: RE: [PEN-L] Vampire capitalism] Robert Scott Gassler writes: and Gary Becker thinks human beings are live capital. BTW, it's interesting that Marx had a critique of human capital theory in vol. III of CAPITAL (pp. 465-6 of the Intl. Publ. ed.) two disagreeably frustrating facts mar

Re: Camejo Takes the Lead/Green Party Likes Nader

2004-03-19 Thread Michael Perelman
Although the latest Nader/Dem/Socialist Revolution posts are unobjectionale, this thread ingnited so much nastiness, that maybe we can drop it. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

Re: Historical Accuracy

2004-03-19 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/18/04 12:25 AM The Nader campaign was not the first such opportunity in the 20th century. Farmer-Labor Party and Robert La Follette's third party bid in 1924. Louis Proyect farmer-labor's origins were in farm protests of non-partisan league (first such org was in north

Socialism, Can You Dig It?

2004-03-19 Thread Michael Hoover
Socialists: The zombies who won the Spanish election By Chris Suellentrop, writing for Slate Thurs, 18 March 2004 URL: http://slate.msn.com/id/2097360/ Despite what you may have heard, socialism isn't dead. It's undead, a zombie that still roams the earth uncertain what to do with itself since

Distant (Uzak)

2004-03-19 Thread Louis Proyect
I wasn't planning to write about the Turkish film Distant, which is now playing in NYC, but words in today's NY Times review of a new Icelandic film got me thinking: The director, Dagur Kari, making his feature film debut, has a clean, understated style. Like certain filmmakers from Asia -- Tsai

Re: 'human capital

2004-03-19 Thread Max B. Sawicky
There's always Bowie bonds . . . Robert Scott Gassler writes: and Gary Becker thinks human beings are live capital. BTW, it's interesting that Marx had a critique of human capital theory in vol. III of CAPITAL (pp. 465-6 of the Intl. Publ. ed.) two disagreeably frustrating facts mar this

Re: 'human capital

2004-03-19 Thread knowknot
On 3/19/04, James Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ . . . human beings are live capital . . . (?) ] . . . Marx had a critique of human capital theory in vol. III of CAPITAL (pp. 465-6 of the Intl. Publ. ed.) two disagreeably frustrating facts mar this thoughtless conception [of wages being

not good for gander

2004-03-19 Thread Dan Scanlan
=== THE DAILY MIS-LEAD http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2010620l=23197 === BUSH MARKETS BURMESE PRODUCTS; EVADES OWN TRADE BAN According to a new report, President Bush's official campaign is selling clothing made in Burma - a country

James Chace and Mark Danner discuss American Imperialism and Iraq

2004-03-19 Thread Louis Proyect
It is endlessly fascinating to me how Leon Botstein has remolded Bard College in the image of the New York Review of Books. There are now three high-profile professors making the op-end rounds on a regular basis, and who have written frequently for the NY Review of Books: Ian Buruma (whose NY

Re: Socialism, Can You Dig It?

2004-03-19 Thread Mike Ballard
--- Michael Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Socialists: The zombies who won the Spanish election To paraphrase Frank Zappa: Social Democracy isn't dead. It just smells that way. That aside, this is jut another attack on the election in Spain and how it disappointed the ruling neo-Cons of

new radio product

2004-03-19 Thread Doug Henwood
Just added to my radio archive http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html: March 18, 2004 Luciana Castellina on Italian politics - government, parties, popular movements * Ruth O'Brien, editor of Voices from the Edge: Narratives About the Americans With Disabilities Act, on the ADA, the

Re: Distant (Uzak)

2004-03-19 Thread Sabri Oncu
I for one am looking forward to Ceylan's next film, no matter his esthetic predispositions. Louis Proyect I did not know Nuri, that is, Nuri Bilge Ceylan, well but I know of him. We were both at the Bogazici University in the early 1980s. He was one of the best photographers of our

LNG security....FERCed (again)

2004-03-19 Thread Eugene Coyle
Original Message Subject: FW: LNG securityFERCed (again) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 18:16:09 -0800 From: Reply-To: To: -Original

Re: 'human capital

2004-03-19 Thread Sabri Oncu
In the first place, the laborer must work in order to obtain this interest. ... In the second place, he cannot transform the capital-value ... of his labor-power into cash by transferring it Jim D. Max: There's always Bowie bonds . . . How about Sabri bonds? I am issuing them

Coke double hitter

2004-03-19 Thread joanna bujes
Things get worse with Coke Bottled tap water withdrawn after cancer scare Felicity Lawrence, consumer affairs correspondent Friday March 19 2004 The Guardian First, Coca-Cola's new brand of pure bottled water, Dasani, was revealed earlier this month to be tap water taken from the mains. Then it