At 11:21 PM 10/4/99 -0400, Michael Hoover wrote:
Polish Solidarity, in many
ways the prototype for the anticommunist movements that swept Eastern
Europe in the name of free markets and Civil Society. The intellectuals who
participated in these movements had a deep hatred for Stalinism and
At 05:34 PM 10/4/99 -0500, Carroll Cox wrote:
Your phrase "self-appointed leaders" (or at least its evaluative
implications)
however id obscurantist. *All* leaders are in the first instance self-
appointed -- or should we say self-nominated. Those led of course make
the final decision on who
At 09:56 PM 10/1/99 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
Rod, let me take this opportunity to explain the importance of ideological
promotion of NGO's in underdeveloped countries. NGO's are funded by the
same people who fund the CIA and local cops and soldiers, the families who
own and control the major
At 10:36 AM 10/4/99 -0700, Ricardo Duchesne wrote:
That's what he says! But Blaut, of course, has no serious answers to
the fact that China never invented a mechanical clock, so he wraps
his arguments in false accusations, misreadings, and emotional -
unscholarly - remarks about eurocentrism.
The Proyect's Revolutionary Project has been innundating this list with
various posting whose common theme is claiming a social effect of some
demon manufactured by the self-appointed warlocks of the revolutionary
struggle. First, we heard about the effects of colonialism on European
At 01:51 PM 10/4/99 -0400, Nathan Newman wrote:
As I argued, there are wonderful people in many NGOs, often more wonderful
than many of the union bureaucrats who frustrate and piss off anyone with
progressive views. But the difference is that the funding constituences for
most political NGOs
At 05:43 PM 10/2/99 -0400, you wrote:
Max wrote:
LP has yet to give
any sign that he has read one word of Wojtek's academic
work, or of anyone else's at JHU/IPS.
Actually, I'm a bit curious as to what Wojtek has written as an academic.
I don't intend to engage in any personal attack on this list
At 03:17 AM 10/2/99 -0400, Nathan wrote:
That is what philanthropic funding does - it creates clear markings between
those issues and expression that are acceptable - by giving them money and a
greater political megaphone - versus those views that are unacceptable and
marginalized.
-- snip ---
At 01:24 AM 10/2/99 -0400, Jim Blaut wrote:
When you say, "... And radical movements often spin-off of
such NGO-funded efforts, as occurred in the US with the heavily
philanthropically-funded civil rights movement - much to the dismay of
those funding it," I hope I may assume that you're not
At 05:59 PM 10/1/99 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
No, Steven. There is a connection. Wojtek has been attacking academics and
activists who target imperialism and racism. I view this as quite a
conservative stance, not radical at all. There is imperialism and there is
racism and our job is to fight
Yoshie, check out _The Credential society : an historical sociology of
education and stratification_ by Randall Collins (New York : Academic
Press, 1979).
However, your question is somewhat wrongly stated, since in all likelihood
most jobs college graduates get *nominally* require a college
At 06:58 AM 10/1/99 -0700, Bard deLong wrote:
I don't know. The Kuomintang was a strongly nationalist and
anti-imperialist party too.
It certainly has done a better job governing Taiwan--which is
nobody's colony or neo-colony these days--than the CCP has done
governing China...
Ah Brad, you
At 02:25 PM 10/1/99 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
Wojtek, I am trying to understand where you are coming from politically.
Your animus around these questions is found among right wing social
democrats, like Todd Gitlin and the Dissent Magazine crown. It is also
found in the right wing of the
shall
say, diffusion. To make a point, a jet-propulsion engine (i.e. a device
moving on the jet propulsion principle) was first invented in around 100 BC
in Alexandria, but I had wait for its application for another 2000 years.
wojtek
Barkley Rosser
-Original Message-----
From: Wojtek
At 12:49 PM 9/30/99 -1000, Steve Philion wrote:
That sounds like caricature, did Brenner ever say any such thing? I don't
think his argument came to one of no support for third world struggles.
How could the likes of a James Petras, to mention just one non Eurocentric
Marxist have much to do with
At 09:08 AM 10/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
Does anyone here know who coined the phrase "knowledge worker"? The
Atlantic Monthly says the phrase is Peter Drucker's "own coinage".
Can anyone confirm/deny this?
It's been around in the literature on professions, Magali Sarfatti Larson
might have used
At 11:31 AM 9/30/99 -0700, Jim Craven wrote:
Hi Wojtek,
Which of the below mentioned did I do? Name calling is out and just gave my
views in respectful answer to yours; I don't remember making any
accusations; as for "flat earth", it was the Euros who popularized that
notion as the Mayans had it
At 01:27 PM 9/30/99 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
More reactions feared at Japan plant
Nuclear accident 'unprecedented' for Japan; 2 workers critical
--snip
Nonaka said Japan's Ground Self-Defense Force's chemical warfare unit was
ready to be deployed at the accident site but that it lacked
At 09:48 AM 9/30/99 -0700, Michael Perelman wrote:
Finally, are other people besides the two Jims, Ricardo, and a few others
interested in this thread? Or should I demand in this cease once and for
all in
24 hours?
I vote for "cease and dessit" within 24 hours- it degenerated into flat
earth
At 03:07 PM 9/29/99 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
You got to be careful recommending these authors, Wojtek. There was a big
witch-hunt in the 1950s to weed out professors who were disciples of
Alexander Gerschenkron and things are starting to look menacing after Waco
and other FBI crackdowns. Are
At 03:04 PM 9/29/99 -0400, Barkley Rosser wrote:
Wojtek,
Minor point. You grew up in the Second World,
even if it is no more. Hey, without a Second World
there can be no Third World.
Technically true. Although imho the second/third world distinction is more
racist than Blaut Co. make
At 01:05 PM 9/28/99 -0500, Mathew Forstater asks:
What is one to say to this? This is so disheartening.
in response to my remark:
Max, I am totally with you on that, I do not think third worldism is about
political struggle, abroad or here - it is a kulturkampf waged by
intellectuals in the
At 07:50 AM 9/29/99 -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
yours truly) have made several times. If one believes in the Weberian
"Protestantism caused capitalism" theory (which I do not), the Catholics
Jim, I think that is a rather distorted view of Weber's theory, which is
much more subtle. It deals with
At 11:19 AM 9/29/99 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
Mario's only response to all this has been a paranoid and demagogic rant
about how Yankee racists should keep their nose out of Colombian politics,
Mario's response is NOT a paranoid and demagogic rant. He provides a clear
assessment of a
At 03:57 PM 9/28/99 -0700, Jim Craven wrote:
The real "savages" are all wearing uniforms and three-piece suits and acting
oh so "civilized" and "efficient".
If I remember correctly, the Canadian government outlawed for some time the
practice of potlatch, solely because it was s antithetical
At 03:57 PM 9/27/99 -0400, Jim Blaut wrote:
Talk about illogical positivism!
-- snip---
you mock. That is typical of your empty scientism.
I read that you are basically not concerned with the empirical
demonstration of the effect of colonialism on european capitalist
development, right?
At 11:10 PM 9/27/99 -0700, Max S. wrote:
To me any negative connotation to "Third worldism" does not stem
from any interest in discounting any Third World struggle in the slightest.
Max, I am totally with you on that, I do not think third worldism is about
political struggle, abroad or here -
At 03:25 PM 9/27/99 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
you. I wish to hell you would exercise a little restraint and stay out of a
discussion in which you have nothing substantial to add.
I take exception to that. I think i do have something to contribute by
asking the right kind of substantive
At 01:23 PM 9/28/99 -0400, Charles Brown wrote:
I think the issue here is Wojtek's claim that capitalism
is "more efficient". Because the capitalist mode of
--snip
Charles, capitalism *is* efficient (thanks to its superior technology and
organization) to the point it can afford conspicuous
At 03:42 PM 9/28/99 -0400, Charles B. wrote:
Wojtek Sokolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/28/99 03:10PM
The police endorsed Bell (the current president of city council) as the top
law and order guy who btw shamelessly played the race card. The church
leaders endorsed Stokes who promised them
At 03:47 PM 9/28/99 -0400, Louis Project wrote:
system. For every South Korea or Taiwan, there are 20 stagnant countries
that have even failed to begin to address the tasks of industrialization
and modernization. Interestingly enough, the US has just committed 1.5
billion dollars to fighting the
At 02:05 PM 9/28/99 -0700, Jim Craven wrote:
So when we get to the level of analyzing what is being produced and
distributed and the probable social consequences (and even consequences on
individuals purchasing) of that which is being produced, when we consider
the "how" to produce in wider terms
At 04:54 PM 9/28/99 -0400, James Blaut wrote:
As of this minute I'm ceasing to respond to your s... stuff, just as I
decided some time ago to ignore Duchesne (on H-world and wsn), who at least
is civil.
As if you responded to my questions previously.
wojtek
At 04:55 PM 9/28/99 -0400, Charles Brown wrote:
The main racism among black petit bourgeoisie ( there are no black big
bourgeoisie) is among black Reaganites like Clarence Thomas who are
anti-black racists. including their espousal of the concepts you put on
this post. There is not such thing as
At 11:29 AM 9/28/99 -0700, Jim Craven wrote:
We also note how the concepts of "efficiency" are tied-in with central
"axioms" of NC theory including the shit about "normative" versus "positive"
e.g max output of what?/input and we note how much of the concepts of
efficiency are tautological i.e.
At 01:16 PM 9/28/99 -0400, Louis P. wrote:
The context is Wojtek's hatred for "third worldism" in general, which was
articulated a couple of weeks ago in his excitement over the prospects for
a law and order "white hope" Mayoral candidate in Baltimore.
White hope? So how come that he got more
At 12:10 PM 9/28/99 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
It can not be reduced to "free labor". Portugal took sides in the Spanish
war of succession between England and France, choosing the former. Part of
the treaty included exchange of port for woolen goods, which was to the
advantage of England.
At 11:56 AM 9/28/99 -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
Charles Brown wrote:
England and Holland had both colonial systems and free labor , and
so they were able to capitalistically accumulate the colonial
treasures of Spain and Portugal when the later were not able to
because they did not establish
At 09:07 AM 9/28/99 -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
of the earth, just as one can believe (as a "third-worldist" theory might)
that capitalism in Europe arose simply because Europe was lucky enough to
get there first in conquering the rest of the world and then turn around
and criticize the rest of the
At 01:57 AM 9/29/99 +1000, Rob S. wrote:
developments (a better word than progress') in Europe. And perhaps this
the point that Wojtek is actually making (sorry if I'm ascribing a load of
ill-considered crap to you if you weren't, Wojtek).
You do good sarcasm, Louis. And I reckon you know it
At 07:03 PM 9/24/99 -0400, CHarles Brown wrote:
Charles: I must say , I don't see how you avoid an abitrariness problem at
the level of selecting your unit. I recall well this problem in studying
anthropology when we were trying to decide how to draw boundaries around
cultures or groups.
At 01:45 PM 9/27/99 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote in reply to my:
So in essence, Blaut crticizes Brenner for not being au courant with the
Zeitgeist of revolutionary struggle - i.e. for not being politically
correct as we would say it today - rather than for proposing a theory that
cannot
At 02:44 PM 9/27/99 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
Wojtek, you have an obligation to try to read some of the material being
discussed before posting so frequently and so provocatively on the subject.
When you use a term like "politically correct", you are really acting like
a smart alec. Your latest
At 05:07 PM 9/25/99 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
I just put this out as a webpage at:
http://www.panix.com/~lnp3/brenner_critique.htm
Here are the first few paragraphs:
This article was published in ANTIPODE: A RADICAL JOURNAL OF
GEOGRAPHY,26,4,(1994):351-76.
ROBERT BRENNER IN THE TUNNEL OF
STRATFOR.COM
Global Intelligence Update
Weekly Analysis Septemer 20, 1999
World Bank Reverses Position on Financial Controls and on Malaysia
Summary:
The World Bank reversed its opposition to short-term
capital controls and announced that Malaysia's experiment with
capital controls was, in
At 05:35 PM 9/24/99 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
The gold began to flow just when Portugal signed the Methuen Treaty with
England in 1703. The treaty crowned a long series of privileges obtained by
British merchants in Portugal. In return for some advantages for its wines
in the English market,
At 03:57 PM 9/23/99 -0500, Mathew Forstater wrote:
right, wojtek, your position of favoring internal factors is "scientific"
while one who through careful study reaches the tentative conclusion (always
subject to possible revision) that "external" factors are of primary
importance must subscribe
At 01:09 PM 9/24/99 -0500, Mathew Forstater wrote:
One of the issues I am trying to get at is that there were egalitarian
societies, non-stratified societies, classless societies (the being
obviously some controversy here--for a change!), and it is important to have
a more subtle analysis I
At 04:14 PM 9/24/99 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
I don't know what your deal is, Ricardo, but you are stuck in the 1980s on
a lot of these questions. I recall that you posted once on how the Mayans
self-destructed because of anti-ecological farming practices. This too was
an argument based on
At 11:51 AM 9/23/99 -0400, Max Sawicky wrote:
WS: . . . You also dismiss my argument that you may not have sufficient
empirical evidence to sort out effects of different variables by simply
calling it "babble." Well, my friend, if you ran a multiple regression with
twelve variables plus
At 12:41 PM 9/23/99 -0400, Max Sawicky wrote:
I don't understand why it's not possible to think that the
combination of internal changes within Europe plus imperialism
combined to produce capitalism as we know it. Why is such a
passionate matter of either/or dispute?
Doug
Looks to me like
At 04:30 PM 9/22/99 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
I am not sure what you mean by "switching to capitalism". Capitalist
property relations existed throughout Latin America in the 1800s. The
problem is that the form of capitalism practiced did not conform to
Jeffersonian mythology. Instead of plucky,
At 04:53 PM 9/22/99 -0400, Jim Blaut wrote:
"The sufficient condition can be questioned by the
counterefactual of Spain and Portugal that in th einitial
phase of colonial expansion seemed to be main beneficiaries
of colonial exploitation. The Spaniards, for example, are
'credited' with plundering
At 02:55 PM 9/22/99 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
The question that needs addressing is not how and why feudalism in Europe
evolved into capitalism, but how the particular "world system" got created.
I do not believe that there is a 'world system' other than the one in the
minds of wallerstein
At 01:13 AM 9/22/99 -0400, James Blaut wrote:
Most of the arguments for this uniqueness doctrine fall
back on putatively unique psychological qualities:
mentality, rationality, venturesomeness, inquisitiveness,
inventiveness, aggressiveness, bloodthirtyness, the Judeo-
Christian ethic, etc., etc.
A question to Jim Blaut:
I am not quite sure what are you trying to demonstrate in this and related
threads:
- that slavery and colonial exploitation created economic benefits for
slave owners and pludereres? - that seems an obvious and uninteresting
conclusion.
- that slavery and colonial
PS. I am apalled by the systematic exclusion of historical accident,
especially on the Left which is infatauted with hindsight rationalizations.
But I would go as far as saying that perhaps three fourths of history
(both national and persons) is a result of accident, being in the right
place at
At 01:42 PM 9/17/99 -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
If one blames all of E's rise on exploitation, then in some ways it's a
critique of the periphery that allowed itself to be conquered and
exploited. If, on the other hand, one blames it all on capitalism's (or
Europe's) internal dynamic, it's quite a
At 05:05 PM 9/15/99 -0400, Charles Brown wrote:
The "Europeans did it mostly themselves" argument is captured very well in
the Robinson Crusoe myth. Crusoe's help didn't arrive until Friday.
The White Man's Burden is a variation of this myth. Europeans conquered
the world to help everybody, not
A posting of another list. While reading this, it is hard to avoid the
conclusions that intellectuals are in the dire need of a forced labor camp,
just as doctor Stalin presecribed.
wojtek
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:12:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peter Kosenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
Yesterday, Martin O'Malley won the Democratic nomination for the mayoral
election to be held in November. Since Democrats outnumber Republicans by
the ratio of 9:1 in Baltimore, O'Malley is virtually certain to become the
next mayor.
There are several interesting aspects of that election which
At 10:28 AM 9/14/99 -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
According to the US ECONOMIC REPORT OF THE PRESIDENT, 1999, Table B-105,
total imports from non-Industrial countries in the first 3 quarters of 1998
(at an annual rate) equaled 414.9 billion US$, which is more than 45
percent of total US imports.
At 06:50 AM 9/14/99 -0700, Brad DeLong wrote:
Lenin's idea that the prosperity of the industrial core is critically
linked to a poor periphery from which the core can buy raw materials
was perhaps true (but perhaps not) in 1900. (The best example of
Was not that originally Rosa Luxemburg's
At 08:31 PM 9/13/99 -0700, Brad DeLong ponders:
Brezhnev. I know how to evaluate material welfare. I don't know how
to evaluate the bad karma from living in a society in which the
police shoot children on the one hand or living in a society in which
dissidents are sent to mental hospitals on
At 10:43 AM 9/3/99 -0500, Paul Phillips wrote:
Perhaps I should have said "lasting" rather than "permanent."
However (and also in response to Jim), the point I was trying to
make is that organized labour tends to radicalize, become more
militant, and grow during economic upturns rather than
At 09:39 AM 9/2/99 -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
We should also look at the bright side of the Bolivianization process. The
decrease in worker insecurity -- corresponding to the shrinkage of the
importance of the "good jobs" in the primary sector -- also means that
employees are less loyal their
At 06:48 AM 9/1/99 -0700, Brad deLong wrote:
I have heard Phil Harvey of Rutgers Law School use this story on more than
one occasion in public presentations. No matter how much dogs are trained
to be good bone gatherers, as long as the number of bones remain fixed,
there will still be dogs left
That sounds like a good recipe for popularity contest and hollywoodization
of teaching - idiots who cannot act/teach being propelled to the status of
celebrity by popularity ratings and ticket sales.
Some possibilities of this pseudo-democratic idiocy:
- religious right or republicans organize
At 11:50 AM 9/1/99 -0700, Jim C. wrote:
If "modern science" is the only "science", then why is it that Incas,
Aztecs, Mayans, Mississippians and other Indigenous cultures were able to
construct cities and structures that, in terms of scale and precision, could
not be duplicated with the most
At 12:35 PM 9/1/99 -0700, Jim C. wrote:
deductions and applications, then it is obvious from the products, that
Indigenous cultures have been employing "scientific method" for a long long
time--even in non-Indigenous terms.
I never doubted that. I read Levi-Strauss as an antidote to my
At 11:40 AM 9/1/99 -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
All merit systems, whether based on peer review, administrative
review, student review, or some combination have one ultimate
effect: they increase the power of management. Can you imagine
what student reviews of a progressive professor would have
At 03:47 PM 9/1/99 -0400, Louis P. wrote:
Besides claiming to have found Big Foot tracks all across North America, Dr
KRANTZ, like his colleagues, says the grainy film shot in 1967 as ultimate
proof. "When I saw the film I was sure it was just a man in a suit," he
said. "But we've studied that
At 03:28 PM 9/1/99 -0400, Max S. wrote:
My impression of alumni associations is they are, in
the case of undergrads, for people too involved in
college football, or for graduate school, those
dedicated to continue sucking up to faculty till
the end of time.
true. but what i was proposing would
At 10:08 AM 8/31/99 +, Patrick Bond wrote:
Is this true? The small insurance folk put out endless inane
commercials which (U.Penn Annenberg School media researchers
convincingly show) tipped the public consciousness-balance. The small
business lobbyists beat up on wavering members of
At 12:01 PM 8/30/99 -0400, you wrote:
Penners,
I had replied to Mitch's questions off-list. But
since Michael thought the questions of general interest,
I'm forwarding my responses to the list.
Ellen Frank
1. Especially in introductory classes, how do
At 08:51 PM 8/24/99 -0400, Doug Henwood quoted:
ABSTRACT:
There is a secret paradox at the heart of social contract
theories. Such theories assume that, because personal security
and private property are at risk in a state of nature, subjects
will agree to grant Leviathan a monopoly of
At 11:08 AM 8/25/99 -0400, Ellen Frank wrote:
Means-tested consumer subsidies, I hate to tell you, have been bad
news in almost every market where they've been used. Higher-education
being one egregious example, nursing homes another.
Consumer subsidies in imperfectly competitive markets
At 10:25 PM 8/24/99 -0300, Alexandre Fenelon wrote:
I think there are some troubles with your position, which is the same of
the World Bank: Private insurance for the rich and middle classes and
public health system for the poor.
--- snip
Alexandre and others voicing similar views:
I think
At 04:31 PM 8/25/99 -0500, Steve Perry wrote:
Out here in Minnesota--whose gift to the world was the HMO system--
there have been quite a few interesting folks involved with the single-
payer question. Early in his first term, Paul Wellstone was seriously
interested in pushing single-payer
At 09:57 AM 8/23/99 -0700, Michael Perelman wrote:
I want pen-l to be relevant to what goes on in the economy. The banter
and exchanges about cultural and political matters are useful. They
round out the list and make it more entertaining.
On the other hand, I would like to see us create a
At 05:35 AM 8/24/99 -0400, Yoshie wrote:
ahh hell, i'll just call it a tie and leave it at that. kelley
Kelley also wrote to Carrol:
Wojtek ought to stop worrying about campus politics, which
are of far less political impace (even during the '60s) than he seems
to think.
geewillickers, and
At 01:12 PM 8/19/99 -0400, Louis Proyect quoted:
The Washington Post, November 24, 1984
Is Baltimore Truly Back?; New Showcase City Faces Old Problems
--snip
But before his arrival, the city's black Interdenominational Ministerial
Alliance had urged that the rally be held elsewhere,
from: http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2316716,00.html
The author of Win32.Kriz, discovered recently by researchers, sounds as if
he or she has an ax to grind against religious folks.
Inside the virus is a text string with a poem full of expletives
criticizing those who
At 01:50 PM 8/19/99 -0400, Charles Brown wrote:
Ditto.
Charles Brown
"Mathew Forstater" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/19/99 01:44PM
Rejection of the notion of "underclass" or the rejection of the view that
Ebonics lacks "full conceptual complexity" is fully compatible with the
general approach that
At 02:30 PM 8/19/99 -0400, Yoshie wrote:
Perhaps you could tell us about the local political projects that you got
into with your neighbors -- their successes, failures, compromises, etc.
Other people might be also interested in discussing what is being done in
local politics.
BTW, you reply
At 06:10 PM 8/18/99 -0400, Yoshie wrote:
I agree with the first paragraph here (the importance of not putting the
cart before the horse), and I share your concern about suburbanization
the disappearance of public spaces, but stated thus, the description of the
problem may lead to an ultimate
At 01:04 PM 8/17/99 -0400, Yoshie wrote:
Michael Keaney wrote:
Does the wider community have a legitimate interest in the fate of the
unborn child? Is it an adequate defence of a woman's ability to choose
freely to insist upon a conception of her body as private property with
which she may do as
At 11:38 AM 8/17/99 -0400, Charles Brown wrote:
Charles: OK. However, the residential pattern was very unequal and
segregated by class and race in 1949. I am not sure that that "structure"
has worsened in the last 50 years, and it has not improved as much as
"advertised" by the "home of the
At 04:21 PM 8/16/99 -0400, Chareles wrote:
Charles: Why is it do you think that the way you tell it "consciousness"
is not corresponding to "structure" ? Are you saying this "perfect soical
control" is exercised through "structure" and not "consciousness" ? Let me
get this straight. Are you
At 02:12 PM 8/16/99 -0400, Charles Brown wrote:
Charles: Not to be a pessimist or a smart ass, Wojtek, but , I swear to
god, the movement 50 years ago seems to be ahead of the movement today in a
lot of ways. Somehow this progress in attitudes is not translated into
progress in action, practice,
At 12:33 PM 8/16/99 -0400, Yoshie wrote:
That said, it was and is not inevitable that class antagonism gets deformed
into a racist form. All workers make sacrifices on the job (and in fact
black workers generally make bigger sacrifices than whites under the same
employers), but not all workers
At 11:04 AM 8/14/99 -0700, Sam P. wrote:
Wojtek Sokolowski wrote:
So urban development, gentrification or whatever you want to call it is
bad.
Not necessarily. Gentrification is not all bad. Starbucks has good
coffee (I'm told). Subway makes their own bread too. What I'm
criticising is how
At 12:38 AM 8/13/99 -0700, Sam Pawlett wrote:
In light of recent Pen-L threads on urban questions, I'd would highly
recommend an excellent new book called *Lockdown America* by Christian
Parenti which I've just finished. It reminded me a lot of *City of
Quartz * by Mike Davis except it covers all
At 01:57 PM 8/12/99 -0700, Jim C. wrote:
But what do you call a BIA document that says we will "get rid" of the
"Indian problem" by "defining away", through blood-quantum rules, or through
debt-led Tribal lands aquisitions and "elimination", Indians themselves.
Smells a lot like what was planned
At 07:59 PM 8/11/99 -0400, Yoshie wrote:
I share your pro-urban anti-suburban bias, but the proposal to encourage
homeownership through the conversion of rental units into owner-occupied
single-family dwellings, for instance, doesn't create more new housing
units affordable for students and
At 06:12 PM 8/11/99 -0400, Charles Brown wrote, inter alia:
In addition to that in Germany - the nazis grabbed power thanks to legal
maneouvers. They were a minority party under the Weimer pr system,
something about 10% of the popular vote; and Hitler was appointed
chancellor by Hindenburg in
At 02:57 PM 8/11/99 -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
Being from Chicago orginally, I am suspicious of any urban development
effort. In Chicago, as in many other cities in the U.S., "urban renewal"
meant "negro removal," at least until the last 20 years of so. Hizzoner da
I cannot say much about
At 04:09 PM 8/12/99 -0400, Charles wrote:
Charles: So, you say keep an eye on the structural conditions and then
oppose the neo-fascists when the conditions start to change ?
--snip
Charles: Why not ? What if there is a market crash and depression , say in
five years from now ?
By the way,
At 02:36 PM 8/12/99 -0400, Charles Brown wrote:
(( "Charles Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/99
I had said:
Charles: My position is that there is not fascism in the U.S. today
(
Charles: I would modify that. There is fascism against many Indians,
including
At 05:15 PM 8/11/99 -0400, you wrote:
Have you guys had an experience of opposing campus area gentrification
(initiated by your local university)? The Ohio State University has been
trying to gentrify the east side of our campus area, desiring to make the
school attractive to better (I assume
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