Valis quoting Russell Means:
>   I think there's a problem with language here. Christians, 
>   capitalists, Marxists, all of them have been revolutionary 
>   in their own minds. But none of them really mean revolution.
>   What they really mean is a _continuation_. They really do 
>   what they do in order that European culture can continue to
>   exist and develop according to its needs. Like germs, 
>   European culture goes through occasional convulsions,
>   even divisions within itself, in order to go on living
>   and growing. This isn't a revolution we're talking about,
>   but a means to continuing what already exists.
>   An amoeba is still an amoeba after it reproduces. But maybe 
>   comparing European culture to an amoeba isn't really fair   
>   to the amoeba. Maybe cancer cells are a more accurate   
>   comparison because European culture has historically
>   destroyed everything around it; and it will eventually
>   destroy itself.

An interesting observation. In essence, Means's critique of Marxism is
essentially the same as Andre G. Frank's. Ricardo's excellent series of
posts should not be lost sight of in the torrent of posts on Aztecs, etc.,
since they address the same problematic: Marx's attitude toward capitalism.

Once again, I can only urge people to read Marx's correspondence with
Zasulich, Danielson and other Russian populists, either in the collected
M&E or in Teodor Shanin's superlative "Late Marx", published by MR. There
is little question that Marx had turned his back on capitalism by the
1870s. Perhaps this got lost in the shuffle, but Stanley Diamond quotes
from E.J. Hobsbawm's preface to Marx's "Precapitalist Economic Formations"
to make the same point:

"It is certain that Marx's own historical interests after the publication
of Capital (around 1867) were overwhelmingly concerned with [primitive
communalism; and, further, a reason for] Marx's increasing preoccupation
with primitive communalism [was] his growing hatred and contempt for
capitalist society.... It seems probable that he, who had earlier welcomed
the impact of Western capitalism as an inhuman but historically progressive
force on stagnant precapitalist economies, found himself increasingly
appalled by this inhumanity. We know that he had always admired the
positive social values embodied, in however backward a form' in the
primitive community, and it is certain that after 1857-8... he increasingly
stressed the viability of the primitive commune, its powers of resistance
to historical disintegration and even--though perhaps only in the context
of the Narodniki--discussed its capacity to develop into a higher form of
economy without prior destruction." 

Louis Proyect

(http://www.panix.com/~lnp3/marxism.html)



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