Treacy: Ellen pointed this out to me. Our problem is that a lot of kids are not getting what is needed in terms of economic and support under current arrangements. [EMAIL PROTECTED] COPYRIGHTED On Sun, 3 Sep 1995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jtreachy says that all women do not know who the father of their children is. > I did not mean that women know who the father of their children is -- I > meant that women know their OWN children regardless of who the father is and > that legitimacy is a value which applies to fatherhood -- i.e., mommy gives > birth, there is no denying parenthood on the part of the mother, but there is > on the part of the father. maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] >