Before critically reflecting upon Elvin's "high-level equilibrium trap", we need a clear idea of what it means to talk about economic growth across human history. When Gerry Cohen declared in his brilliant *Karl Marx's Theory of History: A Defence* (1978), that "the productive forces tend to develop throughout history", it was only a moments time before everyone would remind him that not every society had developed into the capitalist stage. Cohen later conceded ([1983] 1988) that "a ruling class in secure control of the production process might sometimes have good reason not to allow productive innovation and to try to extract more from the immediate producers without improving existing techniques" (26). Only a softer version of the "development thesis" could be defended, namely, one which sees a long-run tendency to productive improvement across history, but not in each discrete society. He thus borrows Semenov's persuasive "torch-relay" model, according to which more advanced societies will at some point stagnate yet pass on (through influence) their achievements to other ones who then build on them. Two problems here: 1) it seems, as he well knows, that the productive forces do not have an inherent, internally generated tendency to develop without externally induced improvements. Cohen had insisted before that PFs tend to develop because humans have a *rational imperative* to overcome scarcity through innovations. But it may be that humans do not have a natural inclination to innovate, if not for external influences/pressures, including military competition. 2) Cohen corners himself into this dilemma because he (wrongly) ties the development thesis to *innovation* per se, in the sense of improvements in technology. He deserves every praise for arguing, against a long Marxist lineage, and in full awareness of the achievements of neo-classical economics, that any talk about development supposes a notion of human rationality. But he erred in indentifying this rationality with the capitalist rationality of continuous technological improvements. The productive forces do have a tendency to develop but not intensively. We need to distinguish extensive and intensive growth.