>Nathan's right: anti-clericalism fought the _established_ church.
>Now we don't have that any more. It's fine as far as I'm concerned
>if some people have religion. That doesn't alwsys  always mean
>that they're closed to reason.
>
Jim:

religion is one of things that it is difficult to have choice over. the
Roman catholics particularly get innocent minds when they are young and lay
heavy guilt trips on them with the most preposterous range of mystical
claims about things more reasoned people call natural - including natural
body functions. even when they grow older and see beyond it, the guilt often
remains to haunt their sexuality and other personal areas of their lives.

it is not okay to do this to children.

so while Nathan says being anti-religion (read
anti-anti-people-and-freedom-religions) is tantamount to being
anti-democratic, i have to disagree. democracy requires an equality of
choice, and it cannot exist properly when all these loons from the catholic
church are behaving as they do. even the liberationist theologians in south
america know that.

kind regards
bill
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