>> Reply-to:      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject:       [PEN-L:8639] Re: market socialism, planned socialism
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>> >> And what's your time horizon for
>> >>"new-fangled"?  Since the death of Christ?
>. . .
>
>> Even "since the death of Christ" is only 2000 years -- of 2 million years
>> of human beings. This is one-tenth of one percent of history, Max. Hell,
>> *agriculture* is "new-fangled!"
>>
>> Blair Sandler
>
>The burden of this statement is to show that the
>first, oh, 1.5 million "years of human beings"
>informs some kind of alternative paradigm for the
>organization of society.  I don't envy you the
>task, but I can suggest at least one clue: follow
>the bananas.
>
>Regards,
>
>J. Fred Max

Please excuse my ignorance, but I don't follow, "follow the bananas" or "J.
Fred Max." I'd appreciate some enlightenment on these burning questions.

Actually, Max, I think it does. Prior to agriculture, people hardly worked
at all, and didn't have a sense of "work" as separate from leisure (as far
as we know). The economy as a separate sphere of the world, in particular,
is an invention of capitalism.

And please don't make me out to be stupid (ignorant, okay, but not stupid):
I'm *not* suggesting we should kill 5 billion or so people, destroy all the
machinery, factories, and buildings, give up agriculture, and practice
hunting and gathering.

Blair



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Blair Sandler           "If I had to choose a reductionist paradigm,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]          Classical Marxism is a damned good one."

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