I agree with Robin Hahnel that externalities are pervasive 
  in market economies and that a great deal of mispricing 
  occurs as a result.  The question that needs addressing, 
  though, is how to calculate externalities accurately 
  enough without a decentralized, flexible price system.  To 
  take the example RH gives, a large range of consumer items 
  were significantly mispriced because of a failure to take 
  into account the costs of disposal of packaging materials. 
  But how is an accurate calculation of this cost to be 
  arrived at in the absence of a decentralized price system 
  which tells us the (doubtless changing) cost (price) of 
  disposing of packaging materials?  That's one problem.  If 
  you then expand this task to including all the significant 
  costs of all externalities, and then require that all such 
  calculations be carried out by an extensive system of 
  democratic planning, then the informational problems do 
  prima facie appear to be colossal.  
  
  There is also the problem which was historically 
  experienced in non-market economies of implementing a 
  system of incentives for planners not to dump 
  externalities on other people.  The Communist bloc 
  countries did have enormous pollution problems.  A 
  democratized system of planning would help, but it's not 
  obvious that serious problems would not still be 
  encountered.  The question at issue would then be whether 
  these problems would be systematically greater or smaller 
  in magnitude than those generated by a system of markets 
  combined with serious measures of planning and regulation, 
  such as proposed by the 'market socialist' school.
  
  On redistributive taxation: even the hyper-capitalist USA 
  once had tax rates in excess of 70 percent and capitalist 
  countries in Europe had much more progressive tax systems 
  than they do now.  The willingness of the population to 
  accept highly progressive taxation is tied to the range 
  and quality of public services which they receive in 
  return.  I think there would still be considerable popular 
  support for high-quality universal health-care, 
  child-care, education, etc based on highly redistributive 
  taxation.  The weakening of support for redistributive 
  taxation in recent years is more due to the fact that 
  there has been less of it--big tax cuts for the rich--and 
  public services have suffered as a result.  Hence people 
  are less willing to pay for sub-standard services.
  
  Peter
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