I hope this request won't get lost in the flood of msgs that has recently erupted. It is not related to any of those threads. I am hoping that someone, especially those connected to or studying unions, can help me. Is there any information (article cites?) on a link between the rise in 2-tier wage structures and efforts to move workers in the lower tier away from the company's old defined benefit pension plan and into either a defined contribution plan or no plan at all? I suspect there was/is, but I need some documentation. You may want to respond to me directly, so as to not clutter the list. Thanks in advance for your help. Doug Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED]