Re: 1 in 8 plant species threatened with extinction

1998-04-12 Thread boddhisatva
Bill, We have recombined, through introduction of exotics, many species that were once separated by continental drift and other geography. Fish species come immediately to mind - the salmoninds, tilapias, etc,. We are also introducing species and then isolating the

Re: 1 in 8 plant species threatened with extinction

1998-04-10 Thread William S. Lear
On Fri, April 10, 1998 at 15:04:56 (EDT) boddhisatva writes: > C. Bill, > > > As I wrote: "our speeding up the [speciation] process is a drop in >the ocean compared top our direct species destruction." So I have to say >I don't understand your question. As to eliminating the

Re: 1 in 8 plant species threatened with extinction

1998-04-10 Thread boddhisatva
C. Bill, As I wrote: "our speeding up the [speciation] process is a drop in the ocean compared top our direct species destruction." So I have to say I don't understand your question. As to eliminating the human hosts of bacteria, I think that is a non-issue.

Re: 1 in 8 plant species threatened with extinction

1998-04-10 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 05:51 PM 4/9/98 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote: >Forgive me, but this is really a dumb question. The disappearance of plant >and wildlife species has an impact ultimately on what we eat and drink, and >on the air we breathe. We are part of the ecospheres that are being >destroyed. The loss of rainf

Re: 1 in 8 plant species threatened with extinction

1998-04-10 Thread William S. Lear
On Fri, April 10, 1998 at 03:09:02 (EDT) boddhisatva writes: >... > Lou P.s posts go too far, leaving science behind and drawing the >issue of plant extinction into a dystopian vision of the world. The >conditions that create new species are isolation, stress and novel >combinations of clos

Re: 1 in 8 plant species threatened with extinction

1998-04-10 Thread boddhisatva
To whom, Lou P.s posts go too far, leaving science behind and drawing the issue of plant extinction into a dystopian vision of the world. The conditions that create new species are isolation, stress and novel combinations of closely related species. In that wa

Re: 1 in 8 plant species threatened with extinction

1998-04-10 Thread boddhisatva
C. Coleman, The rate of species extinction is probably unprecedented since whatever caused the Cambrian extinction happened. New species will be created but novel combinations of DNA will be lost and it is very unlikely that they will ever be found again. Fortunate

Re: 1 in 8 plant species threatened with extinction

1998-04-10 Thread MScoleman
In a message dated 98-04-09 18:03:49 EDT, you write: << Again, this is part and parcel of a wrong-headed approach to the whole problem. Capitalist livestock breeding is not just cruel to the animal, it creates all sorts of environmental and health problems that ultimately can kill us. The sepa

Re: 1 in 8 plant species threatened with extinction

1998-04-10 Thread MScoleman
so 'globalisation' has destroyed diversity, which is an alternative way of saying capitalism demands conformation and destroys individuality. maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 1 in 8 plant species threatened with extinction

1998-04-09 Thread Louis Proyect
Wojtek: >I have another question: why is the disappearance of species more sinister >than that of the individual? Suppose that the salamander or the tree frog >cannot find breeding grounds anymore because wetlands have been transformed >into suburbs, malls and parking lots (yuk!!!). Consequently

Re: 1 in 8 plant species threatened with extinction

1998-04-09 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 03:26 PM 4/9/98 -0400, maggie coleman wrote: >I am not disputing that many plant species are dieing. However (not really >knowing shit about botany) it was my understanding that new species are also >created on a regular basis. Is this true? ALSO, is the current RATE of >specie disappearance

Re: 1 in 8 plant species threatened with extinction

1998-04-09 Thread Louis Proyect
At 03:26 PM 4/9/98 EDT, you wrote: >I am not disputing that many plant species are dieing. However (not really >knowing shit about botany) it was my understanding that new species are also >created on a regular basis. Is this true? ALSO, is the current RATE of >specie disappearance greater than

Re: 1 in 8 plant species threatened with extinction

1998-04-09 Thread MScoleman
I am not disputing that many plant species are dieing. However (not really knowing shit about botany) it was my understanding that new species are also created on a regular basis. Is this true? ALSO, is the current RATE of specie disappearance greater than it was say 10-20-30 years ago? If sp

1 in 8 plant species threatened with extinction

1998-04-09 Thread Louis Proyect
April 9, 1998 Plant Survey Reveals Many Species Threatened With Extinction By WILLIAM K. STEVENS At least one of every eight plant species in the world -- and nearly one of three in the United States -- is under threat of extinction, according to the first comprehensive worldwide assessment of