Tomatoes and tomahtoes are the same no? Domination is the
constraint on desire. Capital (dead labor) is a constraint on the working
class (living labor +). The argument is that you can't really even
understand domination/constraint unless you understand the autonomous
force (living labor,
Harry Cleaver:
Although I might not put it in the same words, I don't object to
this kind of description, except that it leaves too much out and, in
particular, the analysis of some of the behaviors refered to. For example,
it seems to me that if the "message has an enormous appeal", then it
At 07:14 PM 10/9/97 -0400, you wrote:
John, this didn't get to the list. Why don't you post it there and I might
reply.
Lou
On Thu, 9 Oct 1997, john gulick wrote:
You sez:
Could you possibly be referring to Michael Mann?
I sez:
Most of what little I know about popular support for
At 05:40 PM 10/7/97 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote, inter alia:
The important question for Marxists is why these irrational ideologies get
a mass following. I explain this in terms of economic crisis. Fascism
arises at a time when there is great unemployment and/or hyperinflation and
in societies
At 07:26 PM 10/7/97 -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
l
Mann is a "neo-Weberian" supposedly who also finds Marx useful. Max Weber
tried to explain the growth of capitalism as a consequence of the
"Protestant ethic".
Another minor comment: I do not think it is an accurate reflection of
Weber's
Louis said:
The important question for Marxists is why these irrational ideologies get
a mass following. I explain this in terms of economic crisis. Fascism
arises at a time when there is great unemployment and/or hyperinflation and
in societies that have a rather well-developed working-class
Harry Cleaver:
Your characterization of fascism as "a mass movement of the
petty-bourgeoisie that seeks to destroy all vestiges of the working-class
movement" certainly grasps some aspects of that pheonmenon. But except for
reminding people that it IS anti-working class, I don't think it is very
On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, john gulick wrote:
I thought recent reputable historical research has shown that a sizable
percentage of the German working class (formally defined) supported the
Nazis (although of course this percentage mushroomed when the Depression
took hold) -- especially workers
