Poverty rates rising in rural towns

2004-07-18 Thread Diane Monaco
Poverty rates rising in rural towns By Robert E. Pierre The Washington Post Sunday, July 18, 2004 COAHOMA, Miss. The abandoned shells of buildings along the main drag serve as a glum backdrop for the youngsters who sit in front of them for hours, idly chatting and staring into the occasional

BW: Pleading poverty over pensions

2004-07-16 Thread Marvin Gandall
The cover story of the same issue of Business Week describes the massive effort being undertaken by US corporations to divest themselves of their pension obligations to their employees and retirees. Most of the attacks are aimed at the defined-benefit plans negotiated by once-strong unions in the

A poverty draft

2004-05-26 Thread Louis Proyect
for the rest of us. The class issue has shadowed the war from the start but has lately been getting more attention. It is the impetus for several initiatives on Capitol Hill and a theme of Michael Moores antiwar documentary, Fahrenheit 9/11. Its a poverty draft, said Rick Jahnkow, who does anti

Graduate School leads to poverty

2004-04-28 Thread Louis Proyect
Village Voice, April 27th, 2004 Generation Debt - the New Economics of Being Young by Anya Kamenetz Wanted: Really Smart Suckers Grad school provides exciting new road to poverty Here's an exciting career opportunity you won't see in the classified ads. For the first six to 10 years, it pays less

Re: Graduate School leads to poverty

2004-04-28 Thread joanna bujes
, and the sports programs continue to swallow money -- it's also a political move. 3. Going to graduate school does not lead to poverty, unless one stays in academia. I don't know of a single person that I went to grad school with who is poor today. Most did not go into teaching. The skills you learn serve

Poverty in Russia

2004-04-27 Thread Chris Doss
. www.gateway2russia.com 27 April 2004 Who`s Poor in Russia? One of the specific features of Russian poverty is that half of the Russian poor work, - says Lilia Ovcharova, Director of Academic Programs at the Independent Institute for Social Policy and of the Laboratory for Standards of Living at the Russian

the poverty of pundits

2004-03-02 Thread Devine, James
for one last ladling of praise and blame. Edwards deserves some praise because he is the only major candidate who talks consistently about the poor. The problem is that he talks about poverty in an obsolete way, which suggests he has learned nothing from the past 40 years. Edwards talks about poverty

Re: the poverty of pundits

2004-03-02 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Quoth Father Devine: I wonder if Paul Krugman is embarrassed to appear on the same op-ed page as this fellow: March 2, 2004/New York TIMES More Than Money By DAVID BROOKS It's 98% drivel, but there is this 2%: . . . While conservatives were right about the basic nature of poverty

Re: the poverty of pundits

2004-03-02 Thread joanna bujes
presidential campaign. But before we bid him adieu, it's time for one last ladling of praise and blame. Edwards deserves some praise because he is the only major candidate who talks consistently about the poor. The problem is that he talks about poverty in an obsolete way, which suggests he has

Re: the poverty of pundits

2004-03-02 Thread Devine, James
I said: I wonder if Paul Krugman is embarrassed to appear on the same op-ed page as this fellow a friend replied that David Brooks isn't competition for Krugman: he's his job insurance. Jim Devine

Re: the poverty of pundits

2004-03-02 Thread paul phillips
Jim, any idea who this Brooks is? Paul Devine, James wrote: I wonder if Paul Krugman is embarrassed to appear on the same op-ed page as this fellow: March 2, 2004/New York TIMES More Than Money By DAVID BROOKS

Re: the poverty of pundits

2004-03-02 Thread Devine, James
). Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine -Original Message- From: paul phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 6:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEN-L] the poverty of pundits Jim, any idea who this Brooks is? Paul

Re: the poverty of pundits

2004-03-02 Thread joanna bujes
He wrote a pretty funny radical chic type book on the meritocracy: Bobos in Paradise. I'm actually surprised he's devolved into this. Joanna paul phillips wrote: Jim, any idea who this Brooks is? Paul Devine, James wrote: I wonder if Paul Krugman is embarrassed to appear on the same op-ed page

Re: the poverty of pundits

2004-03-02 Thread Doug Henwood
joanna bujes wrote: He wrote a pretty funny radical chic type book on the meritocracy: Bobos in Paradise. He stole a lot of it from Tom Frank. Doug

Re: the poverty of pundits

2004-03-02 Thread Julio Huato
James Devine wrote: I wonder if Paul Krugman is embarrassed to appear on the same op-ed page as this fellow: He should... the same way we all should feel embarrassed for sharing the same federal administration with David Brooks. It may be as hard for us to alter the White House's policies as for

Gordon Brown and the ever failing anti-poverty paradigm

2004-02-16 Thread Eubulides
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=492148 Brown: We are 150 years off our targets in tackling world poverty By Ben Russell and Philip Thornton 17 February 2004 Gordon Brown warned that key global targets for reducing poverty by 2015 might not be met for 150 years as he

POVERTY GAPS DECREASE BETWEEN RACES, AGES, GENDERS--BUT NOT BETWEEN RICH AND POOR

2004-02-01 Thread Diane Monaco
POVERTY GAPS IN THE U.S. BETWEEN THE RACES, AGE GROUPS, AND GENDERS DECREASED STEADILY SINCE 1995--- BUT STILL A WAYS TO GO THE GAP BETWEEN RICH AND POOR KEEPS INCREASING A study by Manchester College researchers used US Census data to compare poverty rates for different subgroups

poverty USA

2003-09-26 Thread Eubulides
U.S. Poverty Rate Up, Income Down for Second Straight Year By Jonathan Weisman Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, September 26, 2003; 12:50 PM Nearly 1.7 million people fell into poverty last year, ticking the official poverty rate up to 12.1 percent from the 2001 rate of 11.7 percent

Re: poverty USA

2003-09-26 Thread Mike Ballard
Proletariat quiescent.. --- Eubulides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: U.S. Poverty Rate Up, Income Down = * --why do you slack your fighting-fury now? It's hard for me, strong as I am, single-handed to breach the wall and cut

FW: [Iww-news] 1/3/2003 Seminar On Women And Poverty

2002-12-10 Thread lisa stolarski
Title: FW: [Iww-news] 1/3/2003 Seminar On Women And Poverty -- From: steve zeltzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 15:32:36 -0800 To: bawdn [EMAIL PROTECTED], TUDN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Iww-news] 1/3/2003 Seminar On Women And Poverty Women and Poverty -Trafficking

Query re: Poverty Inequality in Latin America

2002-10-25 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
My friend Keith Kilty is an editor of _Journal of Poverty_ http://www.journalofpoverty.org/index.htm. He's now working on putting together a list of contributors for a special JoP issue on poverty and inequality in Latin America. If you know excellent scholars on the subject, let me know

poverty up

2002-09-24 Thread Devine, James
Title: poverty up New York TIMES/September 24, 2002 Recession Cut Incomes and Swelled Poverty Rolls, U.S. Says By DAVID STOUT WASHINGTON, Sept. 24 -- The number of poor people in the United States rose by about 1.3 million last year, while household income declined significantly

Poverty Health Today's europe

2002-09-20 Thread Hari Kumar
Poverty explosion in eastern Europe, ex-USSR: WHO. AFP. 17 September 2002. Poverty explosion in eastern Europe, ex-USSR: WHO. COPENHAGEN -- Poverty levels have exploded in central and eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union, according to a report by the World Health Organisation published

Re: Re: Re: Poverty rates, racism/discrimination in N. Carolina

2002-09-13 Thread Joel Blau
Blau Bill Lear wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"> On Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 13:20:19 (-0400) Joel Blau writes: The best resource to answer your questions is the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. They do a state-by-statebreakdown of poverty rates. The new rate comes

Re: Re: Poverty rates, racism/discrimination in N. Carolina

2002-09-12 Thread Bill Lear
On Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 13:20:19 (-0400) Joel Blau writes: The best resource to answer your questions is the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. They do a state-by-state breakdown of poverty rates. The new rate comes out 9/30, but that's a national number,and it usually takes

Poverty rates, racism/discrimination in N. Carolina

2002-09-11 Thread Bill Lear
. In particular, the context of poverty rates among black persons, racism, and the resulting discrimination. I looked at the statistical abstract of the US for 1996, and it had poverty rates broken down by race, and by state, but not by race and state. The last ratio I could find for th US was about 11

Re: Poverty rates, racism/discrimination in N. Carolina

2002-09-11 Thread Joel Blau
The best resource to answer your questions is the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. They do a state-by-state breakdown of poverty rates. The new rate comes out 9/30, but that's a national number,and it usually takes a while to cross-section it. Joel Blau Bill Lear wrote: A recent

Critique of the WB's poverty metrics

2002-07-18 Thread Ian Murray
http://www.columbia.edu/~sr793/count.pdf How Not to Count the Poor Sanjay Reddy and Thomas Pogge

Re: Critique of the WB's poverty metrics

2002-07-18 Thread Gar Lipow
To this non-economist, this looks like really good solid stuff. Thanks for forwarding it, Ian. Ian Murray wrote: http://www.columbia.edu/~sr793/count.pdf How Not to Count the Poor Sanjay Reddy and Thomas Pogge

Re: Globalization: Less poverty, more equality

2002-07-08 Thread Louis Proyect
Sunday July 7, 7:36 pm Eastern Time Reuters Business Report Globalization Has Helped Poor, Study Says By Jeremy Gaunt LONDON (Reuters) - Far from creating poverty as critics claim, rapid globalization of the world economy has sliced the proportion of abject poor across the planet, according

Globalization: Less poverty, more equality

2002-07-07 Thread pms
Sunday July 7, 7:36 pm Eastern Time Reuters Business Report Globalization Has Helped Poor, Study Says By Jeremy Gaunt LONDON (Reuters) - Far from creating poverty as critics claim, rapid globalization of the world economy has sliced the proportion of abject poor across the planet, according

child poverty in the U.S.

2002-06-13 Thread Devine, James
Title: child poverty in the U.S. New York TIMES/June 13, 2002 A Rise in Child Poverty Rates Is at Risk in U.S. By JEFF MADRICK THE sharp cut in welfare caseloads in recent years has forced many skeptics to acknowledge that the controversial reforms of 1996 had some merit. In addition

India: Poverty Estimates 99-00

2002-06-09 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
http://planningcommission.nic.in/artf.htm Poverty Estimates for 1999-2000 Dr. N.C. Saxena New Delhi, 22nd February, 2001 The Planning Commission has been estimating the incidence of poverty at national and state level using the methodology contained in the report of the Expert Group

Comparative advantage of poverty

2002-03-31 Thread Chris Burford
. The microloan technique, for example, originated in Bangladesh, giving tiny loans to women to create tiny enterprises, gets certain communities more effectively out of poverty than certain top-down development projects of the kind traditionally favored by the international lending agencies. On the other

Re: RE: 'Living Wage' Laws Reducing Poverty Levels, Stu dy Shows

2002-03-28 Thread Tim Bousquet
] wrote: 'Living Wage' Laws Reducing Poverty Levels, Study Shows by Max B. Sawicky 27 March 2002 04:05 UTC too bad advocates of LW think this study is trash (on technical grounds). mbs CB: Who are said advocates ? What are the technical failings

'Living Wage' Laws Reducing Poverty Levels, Study Shows

2002-03-27 Thread Charles Brown
'Living Wage' Laws Reducing Poverty Levels, Study Shows by Max B. Sawicky 27 March 2002 04:05 UTC too bad advocates of LW think this study is trash (on technical grounds). mbs CB: Who are said advocates ? What are the technical failings ? ^^^ 'Living Wage' Laws Reducing

RE: 'Living Wage' Laws Reducing Poverty Levels, Study Shows

2002-03-27 Thread Devine, James
'Living Wage' Laws Reducing Poverty Levels, Study Shows by Max B. Sawicky 27 March 2002 04:05 UTC too bad advocates of LW think this study is trash (on technical grounds). mbs CB: Who are said advocates ? What are the technical failings ? ^^^ 'Living

RE: RE: 'Living Wage' Laws Reducing Poverty Levels, Study Shows

2002-03-27 Thread Max Sawicky
No doubt it is a politically useful 'man-bites-dog' story. I would expect advocates to milk the study for all they can. But as a word to those interested in the substance on an intellectual level, my advice is there are much better things to read. mbs 'Living Wage' Laws Reducing Poverty

'Living Wage' Laws Reducing Poverty Levels, Study Shows

2002-03-26 Thread Charles Brown
'Living Wage' Laws Reducing Poverty Levels, Study Shows LABOR: BATTLE BETWEEN ADVOCATES AND BUSINESS OPPONENTS OVER THE ISSUE HAS INTENSIFIED IN RECENT YEARS. http://www.latimes.com/business/la-18670mar14.story March 14 2002 By NANCY CLEELAND

RE: 'Living Wage' Laws Reducing Poverty Levels, Study Shows

2002-03-26 Thread Max B. Sawicky
too bad advocates of LW think this study is trash (on technical grounds). mbs 'Living Wage' Laws Reducing Poverty Levels, Study Shows

Fw: World Bank discussion on poverty and the environment

2002-02-09 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Michael Yount [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 8:05 PM Subject: World Bank discussion on poverty and the environment - Forwarded message from rreddy1 [at] worldbank.org - The URL: http://wbweb4

HUNGER AND POVERTY IN AMERICA

2001-12-12 Thread Charles Brown
The following article on Hunger and Poverty in America, followed by an accompanying Quotes on Hunger Amidst Plenty, will appear in the Dec. 15, 2001, issue of he Mid-Hudson (NY) Activist Newsletter and Action Calendar

Re: Re: Re: Re: OUP USA: Why Poverty Persists in India

2001-11-19 Thread ravi
Anthony D'Costa wrote: As starters I suggest reading Pranab Bardhan's The Political Economy of Development in India (the most recent edition). A slim and yet a very powerful book. thanks for this (and other) pointers. i ordered the above book and received it friday. it was a gripping

Capitalist religion sanctions poverty, alienation andloneliness

2001-10-30 Thread Charles Brown
He rises at 5 a.m. for an hour of prayer and follows a monastic discipline praying according to an ancient schedule that follows the rhythms of the day, the offices of lauds, vespers, compline along with set periods for meals, work, spiritual reading and writing. Until this month, when he

terrorism and poverty

2001-09-24 Thread Michael Perelman
Sid Shniad sent this: According to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), about 35,615 children died from conditions of starvation on September 11, 2001 RELEVANT STATISTICS * Victims: 35,615 children (source: FAO) * Where: poor countries * Special tv programs: none *

abolition of poverty/ neomercantilism, trade

2001-09-06 Thread Charles Brown
David S.'s reply to Charles: I am still trying to think this through. There are two concepts here. First, we have the concept of poverty, or the absence of the basic necessities of life. However, as I think you agree, even this concept is relative. Is a stone-age man impoverished

Abolition of poverty/ neomercantilism, trade

2001-09-05 Thread Charles Brown
--- David S. writes: I am trying to think this through. Let me summarize my understanding of the discussion. Your original argument was that the elimination of private property would eliminate material want. ((( CB: Yes, basically I am using poverty and material want

RE: Abolition of poverty/ neomercantilism, trade

2001-09-05 Thread David Shemano
In reply to Charles: I am still trying to think this through. There are two concepts here. First, we have the concept of poverty, or the absence of the basic necessities of life. However, as I think you agree, even this concept is relative. Is a stone-age man impoverished? Is a bourgeois man

Poverty survival show

2001-08-31 Thread Charles Brown
value almost every week as the Turkish lira plummets against the dollar. Since the start of a February financial crisis, the lira has lost about half its worth. Half of the country's 65 million people live on a monthly income of less than $200, far below the poverty line of $474 a month for a family

Detroit News, conservative paper, runs series on poverty

2001-08-20 Thread Charles Brown
: Equity in home Part 3: Many ways to lose Poor victimized by high car loans Complaints surge against firms getting high auto loan rates Car loan tips How to recognize predatory lending Sunday, August 19, 2001 Families in poverty pay more to survive Expensive groceries, credit sap resources

Re: Detroit News, conservative paper,runs series on poverty

2001-08-20 Thread Michael Pugliese
http://www.commoncouragepress.com/ Merchants of Misery How Corporate America Profits from Poverty Edited by Michael Hudson Introduction by Rep. Maxine Waters http://www.commoncouragepress.com/hudson_misery.html Trying to find a cite for a book on the same, from the early 70's, with an intro

China's poverty time bomb

2001-04-28 Thread Stephen E Philion
SCMP Tuesday, April 24, 2001 China's poverty time bomb CALUM MACLEOD Red-faced from cheap alcohol, Mr Chen paces angrily on Tiger Hill. ''What socialist country?'' he shouts. ''China is a society for the rich!'' Inside the former army barracks behind him, Mr Chen, who declines to give his full

Indonesian Poverty Stats

2001-03-26 Thread Michael Perelman
n 1989, recalls an incident he says shows that Indonesian poverty numbers were "pulled completely out of thin air." He recalls President Suharto insisting in public that poverty had dropped to 30 million, even though the World Bank was in the middle of a three year study that showed 60 m

Underconsumption/ poverty and restricted consumption of themasses

2001-03-22 Thread Charles Brown
. _The ultimate reason for all real crises always remains the poverty and restricted consumption of the masses as opposed to the drive of capitalist production to develop the productive forces as though only the absolute consuming power of society constituted their limit _ (emphasis CB) "

Re: Underconsumption/ poverty and restricted consumption of the masses

2001-03-22 Thread Jim Devine
I wrote: In "normal" times, the capitalists purchase the surplus commodities as luxury consumption goods or investment goods or wasteful goods, so this basic realization problem isn't realized (as it were). Charles writes: How many cars can a capitalist drive and buy ? How much toilet paper,

Re: Underconsumption/ poverty andrestrictedconsumption of the masses

2001-03-22 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/22/01 02:18PM I wrote: In "normal" times, the capitalists purchase the surplus commodities as luxury consumption goods or investment goods or wasteful goods, so this basic realization problem isn't realized (as it were). Charles writes: How many cars can a capitalist

Re: Re: Underconsumption/ poverty and restrictedconsumption of the masses

2001-03-22 Thread Jim Devine
I wrote: In "normal" times, the capitalists purchase the surplus commodities as luxury consumption goods or investment goods or wasteful goods, so this basic realization problem isn't realized (as it were). Charles writes: How many cars can a capitalist drive and buy ? How much toilet

Underconsumption/ poverty andrestrictedconsumption of themasses

2001-03-22 Thread Charles Brown
ng to. He just didn't think the system would allow this process to continue without crisis forever. CB: I recall you mentioning that a number of weeks ago. I will study it. What about the following quote from Vol. III: "_The ultimate reason for all real crises always remains the pover

Re: poverty and health

2001-03-02 Thread Eugene Coyle
. Poverty, time and place: variation in excess mortality across selected U.S. populations, 1980-1990. Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health, in press. Geronimus AT, Bound J, Waidmann TA Health inequality, family caretaking systems, and population variation in fertility-timing. Paper

Re: Re: poverty and health

2001-03-02 Thread Michael Perelman
Gene, yes, he is good. I have lots of other references. That was just a snippet. On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 05:25:30PM -0800, Eugene Coyle wrote: Navarro at Johns Hopkins has written about this I think. Gene Coyle -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University

poverty and health

2001-03-01 Thread michael perelman
JW, Perloff JD, Peterson JA, and Kletke PR. Medicaid in the inner city: the case of maternity care in Chicago. The Milbank Quarterly 68(1): 111-141, 1990. Geronimus AT, Bound J, Waidmann TA. Poverty, time and place: variation in excess mortality across selected U.S. populations, 1980-1990. Journal

Poverty as we still know it

2001-02-23 Thread Charles Brown
leaving public assistance. The state Department of Transitional Assistance gave an overly rosy picture of life after welfare in a report last year, and downplayed more disturbing statistics, the university's Center on Hunger and Poverty said. ''What was disturbing to me was that the DTA wasn't

Blinded by Poverty

2000-11-21 Thread Peter Dorman
. Here we have a kid whose education was cut off along with his father's arms. Nevertheless we have apologists who tell us that countries like China can't "afford" decent working conditions... Peter Blinded by Poverty: The Dark Side of Economic Reform The New York Times, November 21, 2000 By

Re: Re: Re: Re: Aux armes citoyens! (was A slight advantage of poverty)

2000-09-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1675] Re: Re: Re: Aux armes citoyens! (was, el 10 Sep 00, a las 18:22, Brad DeLong dijo: What makes the Marseillaise "creepy" rather than "barbarous" is that it spends more lines making it very clear what the stakes are--liberty vs. tyranny--than it does calling for

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, adv

2000-09-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1684] Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage o, el 10 Sep 00, a las 21:53, Brad DeLong dijo: the US government (which also allied with the Argentine junta until the latter came into conflict with the UK, a more important ally). The Argentinian Junta never was

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, adv

2000-09-11 Thread Jim Devine
I wrote: the US government (which also allied with the Argentine junta until the latter came into conflict with the UK, a more important ally). Brad DeLong writes: The Argentinian Junta never was *my* ally. But during the Malvinas/Falklands War, it was Nestor's. If you pay attention

A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on BigBrother, adv

2000-09-11 Thread Brad DeLong
The Argentinian Junta never was *my* ally. But during the Malvinas/Falklands War, it was Nestor's. The Argentinian Junta has never been an _ally_ of the imperialists, Brad. They were your dutiful employees, the ones who cleared the way for you and your ilk to transform Argentina into an

A slight advantage of poverty

2000-09-11 Thread Brad DeLong
Well, this has been interesting... It started, as you remember, with Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky's report of ..."outrageous situations such as the one I recently saw at the elegant Sargento Cabral square. "This square is named after a semi-mythical character of early Argentinian history, a

Poverty

2000-09-11 Thread Charles Brown
It takes mass struggle to end poverty (from the Peoples Weekly World) By Greg Godwin A recent study entitled "Does a Rising Tide Lift All Boats?" discredits the widely held belief that the highly celebrated economic growth of the last decade has benefited working people as well a

Re: A slight advantage of poverty

2000-09-11 Thread Louis Proyect
Brad DeLong: Third, I am struck by the extent to which the debate here has recapitulated an eighteenth-century debate--admirably exposited by Albert Hirschman in his book _the Passions and the Interests_--between Voltaire (and others) and Edmund Burke (and others). Voltaire maintained--as I

Re: A slight advantage of poverty

2000-09-11 Thread Colin Danby
Hirschman's book is great. But if you look at the kind of contrasts that doux commerce advocates tended to draw, they were between what they saw as the innate civility of face-to-face market exchanges and what we might *very* loosely call feudal manners -- relations of patronage and sharp

The Prince (was Re: A slight advantage of poverty)

2000-09-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
From Brad to Nestor: ...Galtieri... discovered that in order to go ahead and win the war he had to mobilize the most progressive forces in the country, he had to organize a militant national front, he had to return the basic control of economy to the hands of the State, he had to confront in

Voltaire Rousseau (was Re: A slight advantage of poverty)

2000-09-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Brad wrote: Third, I am struck by the extent to which the debate here has recapitulated an eighteenth-century debate--admirably exposited by Albert Hirschman in his book _the Passions and the Interests_--between Voltaire (and others) and Edmund Burke (and others). Voltaire maintained--as I

Re: RE: A slight advantage of poverty

2000-09-11 Thread Peter Dorman
The book you're thinking of is LA REVOLUTION SOCIALISTE by Serge-Christophe Kolm. I read the first half of it back when it came out. He felt that revolutionizing production (via self-management) was more appropriate than revolutionizing consumption (via expansion of the welfare state) -- better

Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty

2000-09-11 Thread Brad DeLong
Hirschman's book is great. But if you look at the kind of contrasts that doux commerce advocates tended to draw, they were between what they saw as the innate civility of face-to-face market exchanges and what we might *very* loosely call feudal manners -- relations of patronage and sharp

Re: Re: Re: Aux armes citoyens! (was A slightadvantage of poverty)

2000-09-10 Thread Brad DeLong
Yes, of course, because it does not come from a demonized as Fascistic semicolonial people that had the guts to confront the American imperialists for decades, but from another imperialist country. If it is French, thus "civilized", it makes Brad feel creepy. If it is Argentinian, that is

Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty (wasRe: Random thoughts on Big Brother, adv

2000-09-10 Thread Brad DeLong
the US government (which also allied with the Argentine junta until the latter came into conflict with the UK, a more important ally). The Argentinian Junta never was *my* ally. But during the Malvinas/Falklands War, it was Nestor's. Brad DeLong

Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, adv

2000-09-09 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1475] Re: Re: A slight advantage of povert, el 8 Sep 00, a las 7:43, Jim Devine dijo: At 10:26 PM 09/07/2000 -0700, you wrote: --Governments that throw people out of helicopters into the South Atlantic have no business ruling anybody, let along waging war to increase

Aux armes citoyens! (was A slight advantage of poverty)

2000-09-08 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
From Brad to Nestor: No, we wouldn't. We wouldn't particularly in a semicolony such as Argentina, where the deeds of those you call "nationalist- militaristic" were in fact deeds effected during a revolutionary war, a war that carried the flags of the most modern ideas in the times against

Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on BigBrother, adv

2000-09-08 Thread Rob Schaap
So as I said back at the beginning of this: it's much better to have a square filled with banners from supermarkets competing to sell you better food cheaper than one filled with statues teaching that dulce et decorum pro patria mori... Most country towns in Australia have a park where the

Re: Re: Aux armes citoyens! (was A slight advantage of poverty)

2000-09-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1460] Re: Aux armes citoyens! (was A sligh, el 8 Sep 00, a las 4:51, Brad De Long dijo: Here's a song for lovers of liberty: La Marseillaise. Yoshie Touche... It *has* always made me feel a little bit creepy... Yes, of course, because it does not come from a

Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, adv

2000-09-08 Thread Jim Devine
At 10:26 PM 09/07/2000 -0700, you wrote: --Governments that throw people out of helicopters into the South Atlantic have no business ruling anybody, let along waging war to increase the number of people they rule. what if they dump them into the South China Sea? Brad, you're threatening to

Re: Aux armes citoyens! (was A slight advantage of poverty)

2000-09-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1454] Aux armes citoyens! (was A slight ad, el 8 Sep 00, a las 3:16, Yoshie Furuhashi dijo: Here's a song for lovers of liberty: La Marseillaise. Militant patriotism at its most full-blooded. Nestor's description of an Argentine nationalist icon sounds serene, with

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, advertising

2000-09-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1354] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight, el 6 Sep 00, a las 16:25, Brad DeLong dijo: It is too long a story, but there has never existed a single "habit of obedience" to those generals. Fear and hatred was what there existed and exists. People here has never equated

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slightadvantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, advertising

2000-09-07 Thread Brad De Long
En relación a [PEN-L:1354] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight, el 6 Sep 00, a las 16:25, Brad DeLong dijo: It is too long a story, but there has never existed a single "habit of obedience" to those generals. Fear and hatred was what there existed and exists. People here has never equated

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, adv

2000-09-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1399] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: , el 7 Sep 00, a las 6:30, Brad De Long dijo: En relación a [PEN-L:1354] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight, el 6 Sep 00, a las 16:25, Brad DeLong dijo: It is too long a story, but there has never existed a single "habit

Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on BigBrother, adv

2000-09-07 Thread Brad DeLong
Will you at least *think* about what the sources of the Junta's power were, and how nationalist-militarist iconography reinforces them? Not only I think about them, I have written lots on the issue, and that monster you hate, nationalist-militaristic iconography, had to do with them only in

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2000-09-04 Thread Brad De Long
En relación a [PEN-L:1168] Re: A slight advantage of poverty (w, el 2 Sep 00, a las 7:49, Brad De Long dijo: I would have thought that we would approve the replacement of nationalist-militarist iconography--that you win honor by killing others and dying for your hierarchical superiors

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2000-09-04 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1209] Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of po, el 3 Sep 00, a las 11:00, Brad De Long dijo: En relación a [PEN-L:1168] Re: A slight advantage of poverty (w, el 2 Sep 00, a las 7:49, Brad De Long dijo: I would have thought that we would approve the replacement

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty(was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, advertising and the Interne

2000-09-04 Thread Brad De Long
It is good to risk one's own life for revolution. And in the battlefield (I ignore if you have ever had that experience, even that of the modest battlefield of a square where your cherished and respected political leaders, aged above 60, run to escape tear gas and you can physically feel the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, advertising and the

2000-09-04 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1218] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight advanta, el 4 Sep 00, a las 7:12, Brad De Long dijo: It is good to risk one's own life for revolution. And in the battlefield (I ignore if you have ever had that experience, even that of the modest battlefield of a square where your

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2000-09-03 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1168] Re: A slight advantage of poverty (w, el 2 Sep 00, a las 7:49, Brad De Long dijo: I would have thought that we would approve the replacement of nationalist-militarist iconography--that you win honor by killing others and dying for your hierarchical superiors

A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, advertising and the Internet)

2000-09-02 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
hile those in the poverty-striken Southern quarters being abandoned to their (sad) luck. In the squares of the North, however, the advertising mania crept quite fast from the small notices "It is you and MoneyMakers Inc. who take care of this square" to outrageous situations such as th

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2000-09-02 Thread Brad De Long
) gardened and polished, while those in the poverty-striken Southern quarters being abandoned to their (sad) luck. In the squares of the North, however, the advertising mania crept quite fast from the small notices "It is you and MoneyMakers Inc. who take care of this square" to outrageous situat

Vandana Shiva on Poverty Globalization (how did the wells go dry?),environment, III (fwd)

2000-05-30 Thread md7148
http://news2.thls.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/events/reith%5F2000/lecture5.s tm BBC REITH LECTURE: POVERTY AND GLOBALISATION snip VANDANA SHIVA Recently, I was visiting Bhatinda in Punjab because of an epidemic of farmer suicides. Punjab used

Re: poverty and child abuse

2000-02-07 Thread Joel Blau
cumstances of parents matter: increases in the fractions of children with absent fathers and working mothers are related to increases in many of the measures of maltreatment, as are increases in the share of families with two non-working parents, and those with incomes below 75 percent of the po

Re: poverty and child abuse

2000-02-07 Thread Jim Devine
I understand that this phenomenon (poverty encouraging child abuse) has been exaggerated, since child abuse by middle-class and upper-class folks is often undetected or excused. But I don't have any sources for this understanding. Also, I do think that it's relevant that welfare reform has

Re: Re: poverty and child abuse

2000-02-07 Thread Joel Blau
Jim: Poverty does encourage child abuse, but since most of the attention of the social welfare apparatus is directed at the poor, families who aren't poor don't get investigated. I was a child protective worker in the Bronx 25 years ago, and I think that during my 3 years, I saw maybe 4-5

Re: poverty and child abuse

2000-02-07 Thread Paul Harrison
t, as are increases in the share of families with two non-working parents, and those with incomes below 75 percent of the poverty line. We also examine the links between family structure, welfare benefits, and child maltreatment. Welfare programs affect the incentives of women and men to work and to li

Re: Re: poverty and child abuse

2000-02-07 Thread kelley
At 09:35 AM 2/7/2000 -0800, you wrote: Can this research be easily recast as a predictive equation? with a great deal of caution. people who are poor are under the gaze of the state in far more ways than are people who aren't. you're watched. for example, if you receive WIC, which is a

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