Re: Re: Re: Re: doublethink

2003-02-13 Thread Kendall Grant Clark
joanna == joanna bujes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: joanna Trust me; he _is_ the only worthwhile philosopher I've joanna encountered in the twentieth century. You should really, really read Marilyn Frye's citeThe Politics of Reality/cite. Kendall Clark -- Jazz is only what you are. -- Louis

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: doublethink

2003-02-12 Thread joanna bujes
At 05:11 PM 02/11/2003 -0800, you wrote: Sorry about linear algebra. You didn't find eigenvectors beautiful? No, but it may have had to do with my math teacher, he seemed to be sleeping through the class too. Joanna

RE: Re: RE: Re: doublethink

2003-02-12 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:34622] Re: RE: Re: doublethink I wrote: no, I only wanted to stop the discussion if the concept of paraconsistent logic remained undefined, vague, confusing, etc., with no specific example of any sort. Ian writes: And I provided the list -including you- with a set

Re: Re: Re: Re: doublethink

2003-02-11 Thread joanna bujes
Forget Russell, read Wittgenstein. The Philosophical Investigations is a real treat. What I love about Wittgenstein is that he writes about very difficult things in very simple languageas opposed to most philosophers, who write about very simple things in very impenetrable language. At the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: doublethink

2003-02-11 Thread ravi
joanna bujes wrote: Forget Russell, read Wittgenstein. The Philosophical Investigations is a real treat. i believe wittgenstein's cambridge lectures on the foundations of mathematics might also be an interesting read in this matter. of particular interest is the tussle between the hard-nosed

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: doublethink

2003-02-11 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: joanna bujes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:12 PM Subject: [PEN-L:34577] Re: Re: Re: Re: doublethink Forget Russell, read Wittgenstein. The Philosophical Investigations is a real treat. What I love about

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: doublethink

2003-02-11 Thread joanna bujes
At 06:28 PM 02/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: but the russell that ian recommends we read is not the philosopher of logical atomism or atheism or the silliness of marriage ;-). the development of the formalization of mathematics triggered by frege (peano et al) in the late 19th century and brought to

Re: Re: Re: Re: doublethink

2003-02-11 Thread ravi
Carrol Cox wrote: ravi wrote: on the paradox, my potentially incorrect attempt at summarizing the history and details: Isn't it the same as the Cretan Liar paradox. The Cretan says, all statements made by Cretans are false. I don't know the exact history -- but Russell's discovery must

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: doublethink

2003-02-11 Thread Peter Dorman
Sorry about linear algebra. You didn't find eigenvectors beautiful? Peter joanna bujes wrote: I only like math because it's beautiful and elegant, but I have no desire (and probably no ability) to understand why it is so. I made it through Calculus and vector calculus...was bored to

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: doublethink

2003-02-11 Thread dsquared
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Peter Dorman wrote: Sorry about linear algebra. You didn't find eigenvectors beautiful? Peter I was always told that there were two ways to learn linear algebra; the hard way and the easy way. And the easy way doesn't work. dd

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: doublethink

2003-02-09 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ian replies: He invites us to explore that which is neither irrational nor embraces the law of non-contradiction and the law of the excluded middle. To the extent those issues make contact [with] d-t, via associative

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: doublethink

2003-02-09 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:34524] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: doublethink Ian had written :He [Nagarjuna] invites us to explore that which is neither irrational nor embraces the law of non-contradiction and the law of the excluded middle. To the extent those issues make contact [with] d-t [i.e

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: doublethink

2003-02-08 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:34468] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: doublethink Ian: Nagarjuna was arguably the first philosopher to systematically explore and *break* with the limits of the applicability of the law of non-contradiction and the implications for ontology and epistemology. me: so he ... embraces

RE: Re: RE: Re: doublethink

2003-02-07 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:34461] Re: RE: Re: doublethink Ian: Nagarjuna was arguably the first philosopher to systematically explore and *break* with the limits of the applicability of the law of non-contradiction and the implications for ontology and epistemology. so he or she embraces

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: doublethink

2003-02-07 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ian: Nagarjuna was arguably the first philosopher to systematically explore and *break* with the limits of the applicability of the law of non-contradiction and the implications for ontology and epistemology. so he or