Sam Pawlett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
How are they [poor countries as they develop] to pay for it [limiting
environmental damage]? World Bank loans? I try not to assume anything,
but it's safe to say that LDC countries will follow the path of least
resistance (i.e. the cheapest) towards
Rich countries reduce pollution, in part, by exporting it to poor
countries.
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 10:44:00AM -0400, Julio Huato wrote:
Sam Pawlett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
How are they [poor countries as they develop] to pay for it [limiting
environmental damage]? World Bank loans? I try not
Julio Huato wrote:
IMO, the main obstacle to the development of capitalism in the Third
World is not imperialism.
What is?
Doug
Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Rich countries reduce pollution, in part, by exporting it to poor
countries.
If Third World countries get to grow, they are likely to be in a position to
limit or negotiate this in better terms.
Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Julio Huato wrote:
IMO, the main obstacle to the development of capitalism in the Third
World is not imperialism.
What is?
Doug
To state it in general may not be particularly helpful. But here it goes.
In my opinion, the main obstacle to the development of
This sounds like the articulation of modes of production
approach reviewed back in the late 70's in NLR by Aidan-Foster-Carter.
Another part of what Julio says sounds like to me like the Peruvian
economist touted by Mario Vargas Llosa, and the late Richard
Milhous Nixon, whose name I'm
The New York Times Magazine had a lengthy article about Hernando de Soto on
July 1:
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/01/magazine/01DESOTO.html?pagewanted=all
What is especially interesting is that he is apparently catching on in
various places: Aristide in Haiti and Mubarak in Egypt, among
michael pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This sounds like the articulation of modes of production
approach reviewed back in the late 70's in NLR by Aidan-Foster-Carter.
Another part of what Julio says sounds like to me like the Peruvian
economist touted by Mario Vargas Llosa, and the late Richard
Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I knew I should have phrased that differently!
No. It's fair, Michael. And thank you for all the URLs. I have heard of
de Soto before. Louis Proyect already honored me by associating me with
him. But I haven't read him directly. Now I should.
I think most people agree with you to the following: 1)there is an impending
global energy shortage that will cause a crisis within capitalism 2) the New
Economy doesn't alter the fact that capitalism is dependent upon
traditional energy sources
. You seem to suggest two somewhat contradictory
Ken Hanly wrote:
I think most people agree with you to the following: 1)there is an impending
global energy shortage that will cause a crisis within capitalism 2) the New
Economy doesn't alter the fact that capitalism is dependent upon
traditional energy sources
I'm not sure I agree with 1);
At 01:19 PM 7/9/01 -0400, you wrote:
But I guess a glass at 50% capacity is always half empty.
pessimist: the glass is half empty.
optimist: the glass is half full.
realist: it's half a glass of water.
surrealist: it's a cow.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 01:19 PM 7/9/01 -0400, you wrote:
But I guess a glass at 50% capacity is always half empty.
pessimist: the glass is half empty.
optimist: the glass is half full.
realist: it's half a glass of water.
surrealist: it's a cow.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Yet another take on Hubbert's
peak
At 01:19 PM 7/9/01 -0400, you wrote:
But I guess a glass at 50% capacity is always half empty.
pessimist: the glass is half empty.
optimist: the glass is half full.
realist: it's half a glass of water.
surrealist: it's a cow.
Jim Devine
Mark Jones wrote:
Doug Henwood wrote:
Yeah, except that the glass keeps filling - maybe not at the rate
it's being drained, but discoveries happen all the time, and old
fields give up more oil than was thought possible because of
technological trickery. And, there was that story in the
I'm no geologist (nor do I play one on TV), but it's possible (as Thomas
Gold suggests) that the supply is like the supply of magma under the
ground. It would go away _very_ slowly as the earth cools. In any event,
people can and do figure out ways to use oil more efficiently each year.
Wall
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From: Mark Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 3:20 AM
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Ken Hanly:
Of course I forgot. References you supply demolish the idea that tar
sands
,or anything else I
. How then is it that production is
increasing?
Cheers, Ken Hanly
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Ken, only today I sent you offlist
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