usion.
Cheers, Ken Hanly
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From: Lisa Ian Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 5:07 PM
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Barkley:
I understand, however, that there is some kind of
different atmos
Michael Yates wrote:
Two comments: Most teachers are not
very good at it and do not take the time to learn how to teach
effectively.
Do any graduate programs actually teach people how to teach? In my
brief career as a graduate TA - one semester of composition, one
semester of 20th century
Doug Henwood wrote:
Michael Yates wrote:
Two comments: Most teachers are not
very good at it and do not take the time to learn how to teach
effectively.
Do any graduate programs actually teach people how to teach? In my
brief career as a graduate TA - one semester of composition, one
a professor is about teaching. If you
are not committed to teaching, committed to the students, get out of the
profession.
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From: Nathan Newman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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PM
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Nathan,
Your comments are very well taken. Two comments: Most teachers are not
very good at it and do not take the time to learn how to teach
effectively. Second, new teachers, including progressives, say that
they cannot make waves til they
In 1979, fresh out of undergrad, I was plunked down in front of a class full
of University of Michigan students barely younger than I--in some cases
older--and told to teach them intro philosophy. I had no training or
preparation. I think they now have some seminars on that for new TAs. Ohio
It is certainly unusual, but we do try--in a policy/research Ph.D.
program at the School of Social Welfare, SUNY at Stony Brook. Amid a
welter of policy, research, and stat courses, third year students take a
seminar in teaching in the fall semester, followed by a spring teaching
practicum, where
PEN-L:8715] Re: Re: farewell to academe
Barkley, I agree with you, but also would ask what the
functional/dysfunctional limits of collegiality are in that case where the
chair truly serves the electors. It's rare but certainly happens as Michael
suggests. As a former department chair, I t
At 10:00 AM 3/6/01 -0500, you wrote:
Michael Yates wrote:
Two comments: Most teachers are not
very good at it and do not take the time to learn how to teach
effectively.
Doug writes:
Do any graduate programs actually teach people how to teach?
At UC-Berkeley in the 1970s, there was a program
At 01:26 PM 3/6/01 -0800, you wrote:
The idea that high evals. are evidence of low standards is common. If
your evals are too high, you can get canned. If they are too low, you can
get canned.
In general, if someone powerful -- or a coalition of such -- doesn't like
you, they will find
Doug Henwood :
Do any graduate programs actually teach people how to teach?
I'm a TA at St Andrews and Edinburgh Universities, and at the Britishequivalent of a community college, after the grand total of one day's training. But I don't think that we need to teach teaching at the university
fessional insecurity.
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From: Michael Perelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 12:58 PM
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No, Barkeley. He was well liked, but students flocked to his classes,
stra
"Forstater, Mathew" wrote:
sconsistently horrible or consistently
superlative evaluations say something. there's just tons of hypocrisy, and tons
and tons of personal and professional insecurity.
Evaluations are _texts_ -- and the recognition that texts are dumb until
an authority
Brad wrote:
... But free higher education is not an equality-promoting measure. I
cannot look at the doubling of in-state undergraduate tuition and fees for
U.C. Berkeley to its current $4200 a year as a very bad thing. The average
college-high school wage premium these days is $7.50 an hour,
ann li wrote:
I, too have mixed emotions about our status as "cultural workers" in
academe, since I was a dean last year and now am teaching part-time,
partially in the reserve army of distance learning educators, waiting for
yet another opportunity in administration, hoping to make a
I think Brad is wrong here. The rise in tuition fees in the US
(relative to those in Canada) has been credited with restricting the
supply of graduates thereby increasing the college/non-college
differential in the US. For reasons we all teach in labour
economics courses, tuition fees
d used car
salespersons.
Ann
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ann li wrote:
I, too have mixed emotions about our status as "cultural wor
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From: "Brad DeLong" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As tuition doubled and services and
funding was cut, the tenured faculty at the University of California sat
back and did almost nothing, since their perks were not on the line. Their
apathy and indifference to the narrowing of
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I think Brad is wrong here. The rise in tuition fees in the US
(relative to those in Canada) has been credited with restricting
Barkley:
I understand, however, that there is some kind of
different atmosphere on campus. Some of it is just a more
blatant careerism, although that has always been there.
Some of it is a more blatant kowtowing to external business
donors, exemplified by the new trend to naming
I see to dimensions to Brad's question. Is higher education late sorting
mechanism or does it add to social productivity? If free higher education would
offer a wage premium to workers and if it added to social productivity, wouldn't
it makes sense to promote education and then to tax the
salespersons.
Ann
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From: "Carrol Cox" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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ann li wrote:
I, too have mixed emotions about our status as "cul
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Best of luck to Michael Yates on his new life. The American academy may
have grown unpleasant, but we should remember that it has nearly always
been that way
Christian Gregory wrote:
What is different about the most recent phase of university corporatization
is its willingness to reduce everything to the market's stupidest forms of
calculation
Seems to me that the American university, as it evolved from the late
19th century until about 20 years
I see to dimensions to Brad's question. Is higher education late sorting
mechanism or does it add to social productivity? If free higher
education would
offer a wage premium to workers and if it added to social
productivity, wouldn't
it makes sense to promote education and then to tax
: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 09:03:10 +1100
From: Martin Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Paul, In Aus we have a 3 tier system
hat former mold, servants of their colleagues
rather than their hired bosses.
Barkley Rosser
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From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Monday, March 05, 2001 6:54 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:8683] Re: Re: Re: farewell to academe
Rodgers, William. 1972. Brown-out: The Power Crisis in America (NY: Stein
and Day).
80: Martin G. Glaeser,
Ann,
Yes, indeed, there are things to be done, and I wish you great success.
I don't know if I am following my heart. Truth is I was in therapy for
a good long while trying to figure out what to do!
Michael Yates
ann li wrote:
I, too have mixed emotions about our status as "cultural
outright nominal
pay decreases, and there is not even a recession going on,
unless you listen too hard to Dubya.
Barkley Rosser
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From: Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Monday, March 05, 2001 7:14 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:8686] Re: Re: Re:
Carrol speaks the truth here. When a friend becomes an administrator,
he or she becomes a former friend. The level of hypocrisy and outright
corruption is remarkable. We have a division chairman who actually sees
patients (he is a psychologist) in his academic office and leaves
academic
particular book I may have read.
-- Nathan Newman
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From: "Michael Yates" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 8:39 PM
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Nathan,
Your comments are very well taken. Two comme
strategic planning
process.
Ann
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From: "J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 8:32 PM
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Doug,
A curious aspect of this is that the d
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